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    *** Official Clevo P37xSM-A/Sager NP9377 owner's lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ethrem, May 22, 2014.

  1. D2 Ultima

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    Easiest way to check? Run that CUDA benchmark file meant for the GTX 970 memory fiasco. If it stops at 3840MB you have 4GB cards. If it stops at 7936MB then you've got 8GB cards.
     
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    No 4GB mxm cards exist so that's even easier to check ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 8, 2015
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    Does this laptop support SATA 3 speed? Or only SATA 2?
     
    sochekik, Feb 8, 2015
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    Sata 3
     
    joluke, Feb 9, 2015
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    Lol yes you are right I found out that after a long research but I wanted to double check with the experts here. Thank you and thanks to everyone here for the help.
     
    orion3000, Feb 9, 2015
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    To be fair information like that can change but AFAIK that holds true :)

    Software is still not set up to handle 8GB cards properly some times. It is more than the old titans after all :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 10, 2015
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    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes you are right. I figured that some softwares are not reading my cards right.
     
    orion3000, Feb 10, 2015
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    How is the machine treating you? Good experience so far?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 11, 2015
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    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can never ask for better Laptop nor I ever owned something more powerful or capable. Clevo/ Sager Indeed deserve their reputation .
     
    orion3000, Feb 11, 2015
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  10. Ethrem

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    Totally agreed now that I have gotten rid of the 880M cards!

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
    Ethrem, Feb 11, 2015
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Yeah your'e 880M cards were utter ****... Never seen that many problems with 880M's especially when compared to your 880Ms....
     
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  12. Ethrem

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    Two pairs of them no less.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
    Ethrem, Feb 11, 2015
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    Started cutting out some of the vents for the fans. I have to find a way of either drilling or making a couple slats but it's a start. Really happy I did this. Saw a 7 degree drop in CPU temps. Didn't pay much attention to GPU temps as I weren't pushing those to their thermal limit. Was able to up my processor power max to 75w while staying below 90 degrees with fans on auto. Works for me!

    I decided after I started to do a before so bear with me lol
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  14. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Nice. I've thought about making a mod myself but the new heatsink they put on there I'm running 70W and 4.1GHz without a repaste or anything. My video cards get hot though. It's my own fault. I have been downscaling my games,mostly from 4K, sometimes 2K,which puts the temp up to 87 but no higher.

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    Ethrem, Feb 11, 2015
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    Are you at stock clocks? What paste are you running?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 11, 2015
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    Paste is liquid metal ultra on both CPU and GPU

    CPU @ 4.1 75w

    GPUs +135mhz core +325 memory, GPUs run in the low 70s if I prop up my laptop. I'm hoping to see a big improvement when I get my laptop cooler and can start blowing air across some auxiliary heatsinks I have dotted around ;)
     
    SnowDrifter, Feb 11, 2015
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  17. Ethrem

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    Stock clocks with a modded vbios. Stock paste too. Machine looks so perfect when I open it I haven't been able to bring myself to a repaste besides they probably used ICD anyway. They replaced all 3 heatsinks and everything. They wanted to make damn sure I was a happy customer which is exactly what I am now.

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    Ethrem, Feb 12, 2015
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  18. Ethrem

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    By the way it only hits those temps when I stress it with downscaling or extreme AA settings. It's usually in the 70s

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    Ethrem, Feb 12, 2015
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    kantana Notebook Consultant

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    Ethrem, does your cpu hold at 4.1G with all cores loaded at only 70W? I'm running 4G on all cores but see power hitting 80W for things like h265 encoding.
     
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    It throttles under a heavy load, particularly one that uses 8 threads but I didn't want 90C+ and if I really need that power I'll just get on my desktop which is a 4.7GHz beast (chip does 4.8 but makes my H100i noise unbearable). Most games don't hit the CPU so hard but still get the benefit. Browsing is similar. Benchmarks hold steady at 4.1GHz with the sole exception being the CPU + GPU test on 3DMark11 where it will generally drop to 4GHz but one core may go to 3.9GHz.

    Its more for bragging rights than anything as stock it's 3.8GHz when all four cores are loaded (which it will drop down to 3.5 or less on stock voltage with a full load like encoding) and in day to day use the speed is noticeable to me because the power settings work without throwing me near throttle territory. I monitored my machine with HWInfo64 for a few days and the average core was 4.1 when I had it at 4.2 with the minimum being 3.9GHz.

    Unless you bought the machine to chase benchmarks, I wouldn't worry about it power throttling. Haswell will eat whatever you throw at it. It wouldn't surprise me if it still throttles at 90W.

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    Ethrem, Feb 12, 2015
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    Shadow-Tek Notebook Consultant

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    Wow.. Nice work man. What did you use to do the cut out?
     
    Shadow-Tek, Feb 12, 2015
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    LOL trust me my 4910MQ can draw more power eg on XTU bench it can hit 100W probably as it engages AVX instructions. I do not impose a power limit so it can hold 4G loaded on all cores but I am near the temperature throttling limit on certain tasks. 70W for me would drop clocks to ~3.8G under load.
     
    kantana, Feb 12, 2015
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  23. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah cooling is a *****... And I'll never use liquid ultra again.

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    Ethrem, Feb 12, 2015
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    I have to set my tdp on my ivy-e to 200w :) but if you want desktop performance you need desktop TDPs.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 12, 2015
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    Hey guys I just received my np9377 in mail today with 980m sli. I really like this laptop. I like it better than my alienware 17 Wich I sold because of of to many restrictions and no support from dell on upgrading to latest cards. Thanks for nothing dell.
    I'm downloading 3dmark and 3dmark 11 as I write this. I wish I would of went the clevo/sagar route in the first place when I bought my alienware 17.
     
    Player2, Feb 13, 2015
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    I have a brand new Dremel I only used once and I'm going to do same thing you did. Thanks for pictures and idea. It does look quite restricted stock. What I don't understand is if it makes that much difference in cpu temps why do they spend so much money engineering and designing something and restrict something of much importance as airflow. Makes you just scratch your head and wonder what they are thinking. You should send a picture of your mod to clevo and show them how they can improve there cooling.

    Will this void my warranty with sagar if I do this.? Cuz I think it's a great idea.
     
    Player2, Feb 13, 2015
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Its funny how I ended up with my Clevo. I had initially ordered an Alienware 18 with crossfire 290s and everyone on here advised against it. I tried to change to 880M cards and Dell's rep who could barely speak English reminded me of my days with my M17xR1 and how much hassle it was to talk to them. Anyway she said she had to cancel the whole order and I can place it again online. Well I had heard about Sager and Xotic before so I went to Xotic's site and bought the 9377 for about 500 dollars more than Dell's offering but with an MX processor which made up for that alone plus the 880M SLI. Now that Sager got my 980M cards in, I'm thrilled. Plus I love how easy it is to service.

    Enjoy your machine and make sure to report back!

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    Ethrem, Feb 13, 2015
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    and here I an envying you while I gather some extra cash to upgrade to dual 980M's
     
    joluke, Feb 13, 2015
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    I'd wait to see what AMD offers. Screw nVidia for blocking overclocking in their new driver versions. Never buying team green again. They're pissed because they realized that Maxwell is so overclockable that people can buy the lesser card (there's an example of someone overclocking an 860M to stock 780M speed to give you an idea) and overclock the hell out of it so the new drivers have overclocking disabled. NVidias excuse is that they are trying to prevent damage since laptops don't have the cooling of desktops. What a rip. Never buying team green again.

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    So the last driver that allowed users to overclock was the 344.xx? I have the 344.75 and I have the 344.91 but I didn't install them as I just wanted to keep a copy of them just in case Nvidia pull them off the Internet.
     
    orion3000, Feb 14, 2015
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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Yes. Avoid 347 and on until someone finds a mod in the driver. NVidia is lazy, they likely just disabled a flag somewhere for Maxwell mobile cards. May be a way to trick the driver into thinking it's a desktop card. I haven't explored anything yet, been having eye issues that seem to be clearing up so I'll have to run diff on the files and find out what they changed. There has to be a fix somewhere.

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    I'm normally a big Nvidia fan but disabling overclocking was really a poor move.

    Does anyone who has used HWInfo and RTSS know where the configuration for the OSD is saved? I want to back that config file up so I don't have to manually set it up upon OS reinstall. I've looked in the folder where RTSS is installed, programdata and user folders. I'm using HWInfo portable so there is only one INI file and the info isn't in there.
     
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    I'm luvin it guys. I finally got one of my 120 steam games reinstalled. I only have 300kbytes download speed. Shadow of mordor. It's unreal the difference a game makes at 60 fps. My monitor only has 60hz but I'm 100% ok with that. My cpu and gpus are only running average 65c. Everything maxed out and I mean everything and gpus are only at 45% load and solid as a rock 60fps. I have vsync on. I am 100% sold on sli now. Never will I buy a single gpu system again. Waiting for farcry 4 to download. I'm half way threw the game before I switched laptops. Should be done in about 2 days lol. I was used to playing games at 20-25 fps on medium to high settings. What a freaking difference. At first I was sad to have to switch from alienware but now that I have I tell myself what was I thinking buying an alienware to begin with. Sager/clevo has so much more to offer for cheaper. What sucks is a lot of people don't even know about clevo/sagar.
    For anyone reading this that is interested in buying a clevo/sagar I got mine at xotic pc. I had a good buying experience and my laptop is better than I expected it to be.
    Cheers.
     
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    Well if you feel up to it the LCD can be overclocked in your model so it is possible to go above 60hz.
     
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    I'm always up for whatever.
    How do I do it.
    Do you have a how to guide or a link to learn how.
     
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  36. Ethrem

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    Do what Meaker said lol
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    Go into the nvidia control panel and create a custom resolution in the resolution options, move in smaller steps until you see corruption, back off 10hz or so and run it for some time to see if any artifacts appear, if not you are good to go, if you do keep backing down until they stop.

    There is a wide range of possible frequencies, some people get nothing, others get 100hz plus out of them.
     
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    Thanks guys I will give it a try when I get a chance. Out of curiosity what are you guys running your moniters at or do you guys have 120hz monitors. To bad the 60hz monitor was the only option offered when I bought my laptop. I'm still stoked just to be able to run games at 60fps. That's already a huge upgrade from where I was to begin with.lol
     
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  39. Ethrem

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    I have the 120hz myself. Finally have cards that can pass 100 FPS to utilize it.

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    Nice.
     
    Player2, Feb 14, 2015
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    By the way have you seen this one?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...od-for-780m-880m-and-980m-mobile-gpus.767644/
     
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    I need HDMI functionality. I hook my computer up to my TV often. I don't need overclocking right now so I'm going to not worry about it. But I'm not upgrading drivers.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Please do spend some time if you have it to do this.. I have a feeling it's 1 line of code but I have no idea where to look or no knowledge about NVIDIA drivers.. Been an AMD guy for the last 4-5 years...
     
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    Its gonna be a pain in the ass finding out what they changed, tons of code to sort through plus I need Linux, give me a few days.

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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Sure thing... No hurry here... Also how will Linux help? Just wondering.. I don't mind giving it a shot but you know I need kind of a method..
     
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    Linux has a tool called meld that is a graphical version of diff (compares two files) which can compare files between two different folders rather than one file at a time with diff. Then it shows you what was changed where and you sift through it looking for key changes.

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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Ok, I will have a look into this.. I need to learn how to dual boot to do all this but I will try.. Definetly try on your end if you can when you get the time...
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    How big of a pen drive you need? It's going to be a few GB right? I only have 2 GB pendrives (free bank ones which they give in uni careers fairs)... Not enough space right?
     
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    Hmm... You might get away with 2GB but it's gonna be a tight fit. You can also burn the file to dvd and you just wouldn't be able to save any work.

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