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    *** Official Clevo P37xSM-A/Sager NP9377 owner's lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ethrem, May 22, 2014.

  1. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    get a 4910MQ honestly.. 4810MQ is bottlenecking a bit.. If your'e on a budget, get a 4810MQ.. Do not get the 4710MQ.. It will be useless...
     
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  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The 4810MQ is about the best fit for this chassis unless you need the cache for something specific to be honest. 4Ghz is about the max you will get.
     
  3. orion3000

    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So guys I'm still stuck in my issue. I installed a fresh Windows 7 ultimate and have Prema bios on my np9377. I have the hotkey app installed and the graphic driver is 344.75 for the SLI 980m. I got stuck with the fn key stopped working and I can't change the brightness on my screen. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you guys in advance.


    Edit : even if someone would be kind and attach a picture of the default settings for the np9377 bios. Again thank you all.
     
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  4. earl_je

    earl_je Newbie

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    so these are the build specs I"ll most likely order:

    Clevo P377SM-A
    17.3" 16:9 1920X1080 Full HD LED backlight Ultra Bright, 90% NTSC Color Gamut, Glossy (heard it's worth the extra $100)
    SLI Dual nVidia GeForce GTX 980M 8GB GDDR5 DX11
    i7-4810MQ
    16GB DDR3 1600/PC3 Kingston HyperX CL9
    1TB 7200rpm SATA III 32MB 6GB/s

    To save a bit of money, I'll plan to buy 2x 512GB Crucial M550 at Amazon (currently $512 for 2) and install it raid0 primary OS myself with the unused windows8.1 pro i still have. Is this a wise decision?

    Also, I don't really plan to buy the 3yr warranty and just stick with the 1yr it comes with unless buying it would be better. Thoughts?
     
  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The BIOS comes with a newer EC firmware, which requires you to also update your Clevo HotKeyApp:

    http://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers/misc/p377sma/win7/06_hotkey.exe


    ENJOY the Mod! :)
     
  6. orion3000

    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will uninstall the old app and update it with the one you gave me and will let you know. I appreciate your help and everyone here. I got everything to work except this issue. I will also check if the ACPI is enabled or not I have a feeling it might have something to do with this.


    Update: I just installed the Hotkey from the link that you gave me Prema and still nothing. I set even the settings in BIOS for the ACPI to Auto and still nothing. Not sure why the FN and the brightness stop working but everything else is good. FYI the BIOS shows VGA adapter as unknown under the part where it shows the BIOS version.

    Untitled.jpg
     
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  7. Shadow-Tek

    Shadow-Tek Notebook Consultant

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    Only thing I can think of is check that all your drivers are up to date with the new mod? Maybe download all of the latest and re-install them?
    Latest Sager Drivers

    Specifically the stuff in red? The file Prema gave you is in red on this page and there are a few more files in red? Just guessing here.
     
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  8. orion3000

    orion3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Believe me if I told you I did all that. I even format my system again. Downloaded all the new drivers from sager. Install them one by one and still the same. Even Prema was kind and gave me a new EC to flash and I did and still the same. Maybe I'm missing something in the bios settings thar need to be corrected but I don't know what.
     
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  9. earl_je

    earl_je Newbie

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    About my other questions:

    1. To save a bit of money, I'll plan to buy 2x 512GB Crucial M550 at Amazon (currently $512 for 2) and install it raid0 primary OS myself with the unused windows8.1 pro I still have. Is the install and BIOS setup pretty straightforward?

    2. Also, I don't really plan to buy the 3yr warranty and just stick with the 1yr it comes with unless buying it would be better. Thoughts?
     
  10. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    If you're buying a machine like that, I don't see why you'd only get 1 year warranty.

    Also, M550 on amazon might be nicely priced, but remember to make sure the difference between mSATA and SATA III. mSATA is more expensive; the SATA III 2.5" version would be cheaper and two of those cut out the mechanical drive the machine comes with. Or you can grab mSATA models and keep the HDD slots open
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You could get one msata m550 and one sata m550 since they should perform about the same.
     
  12. GTO_PAO11

    GTO_PAO11 Notebook Deity

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    Why is 4810MQ the best instead of 4940MX or 4910MQ?
     
  13. D2 Ultima

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    for most people 4910MQ is not worth the extra price (as most people won't be OCing) and 4940MX is something only people who wish to really push their system will get.
     
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    When does the 4810 reach 3.8 anyway? Is it automatic?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The 4810 can get to 4Ghz when tweaked which is about the maximum sustainable clock the system will reach so for tweakers, no need to get a higher one.
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Automatic if only 1 core is being used. 3.7 if only 2 are used. 3 and 4 cores used = 3.6GHz. Unless you OC it.
     
  17. GTO_PAO11

    GTO_PAO11 Notebook Deity

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    Lets say I play open world games like Crysis or AC Unity, do the cores automatically go to 3.6 constant?
     
  18. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Yes
    10char
     
  19. cr8rec

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    There must be a way to do 3 external screens with the 980m over thunderbolt and HDMI.. This should be thunderbolt 2 as well, since its a 980m.this doesn't seem to completely solved. Daisy chain Thunderbolt/mini DP...'Mini display port hub' by EVGA, maybe? I don't know.
     
  20. Shadow-Tek

    Shadow-Tek Notebook Consultant

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    My understanding is this machine supports 2 but not sure what the thunderbolt port can do. (like literally, never even heart of thunderbolt til I got this laptop)

    Worst comes to worst, you can get the "Matrox T2G-DP3D-IF TripleHead2Go DisplayPort multi-display adapter 3 DVI mini-DisplayPort" but its like $240.00 but you can probably find it cheaper (or something similar)
     
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  21. Shadow-Tek

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    Can any of you guru guys give me some advice on the best settings for the i7 4940MX in XTU?

    First some info, idle temps are in the lower right corner of the screenshot of my desktop below, the first two numbers are the 980's and the next 4 numbers are the 4940MX core temps. Laptop has been on for about 1 1/2 hours at time screenshot was taken.

    3NGAEu7.jpg

    I use the " Targus HD3 Gaming Chill Mat for up to 18 Inch Laptops" and it works great, I chose this cooler because this machine is very thick and I wanted to maintain the lowest profile possible, this cooler fits this laptop PERFECTLY, and its only 1.14 in thick which was important to me.

    The above info is just for reference, not sure its helpful or not in XTU advice.

    What I would like to do is simply set up a best performance/cooling setup.

    I tried to experiment with settings found in the screenshot in the last quote found here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-18-m18x/757464-alienware-18-ordered-4940mx-gtx880m-sli-i-have-few-questions-7.html#post9883861 by Ethrem

    I set the -80Mv, then I set the 47W TDP for both turbo values, I rebooted to see if the values held and the -80Mv was still there but the two turbo values changed to different values. Is that supposed to happen?

    Also, say I wanted to try 4.1GHz or even 4.2 (is that even wise if I don't use that liquid cooling stuff? I use IC Diamond and have an extra tube of it)

    Anyway any advice would be appreciated.
    BTW I'm trying this because everyone seems to say that the only point in having a i7-4940MX is to fiddle with it so... I'm fiddling :)
     
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  22. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Well first, you're gonna wanna relax your power draw limits. Next, that old picture Ethrem has is out of date. His entire system was broken as hell; they replaced his GPUs and his heatsink for his CPU and a whole set of other stuff and now it works fantastically for him.

    As far as the extreme CPUs go, I know they need more power/voltage/etc to run optimally than the MQ line, so I can't fully explain.

    Your best bet would be to find Mr. Fox over at the Alienware 18 forums and ask him about it, or find Ethrem these days and ask him what he's up to with it.
     
  23. Shadow-Tek

    Shadow-Tek Notebook Consultant

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    Ok thanks!
     
  24. Azeroth

    Azeroth Notebook Consultant

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    Please help me.

    How do I connect this laptop to a gsync supported monitor. I know it has to connect over DP but this machine doesn't have one. Do I need a Thunderbolt to DP adapter? Can you link me to the product I need to buy?
     
  25. D2 Ultima

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    Thunderbolt doubles as a miniDP port... so you just plug it in.
     
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    Azeroth Notebook Consultant

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    Can you link me please to the cable I will need? My monitor didn't come with this cable - it's the Benqxl2420g. All I have is a giant DP cable and a VGA cable from what I can tell.
     
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    Ok guys I have a question regarding the battery. Does the battery stop charging in the np9377 when it reach 100% full? The reason I'm asking because when I play games I don't want to damage the battery and short it's life by keeping charging it.
     
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    Yes it does stop charging so no worries about damaging it.
     
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    Should be fine.
     
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    Well I finally flashed Premas Bios mod, I gotta say it scarred the crap out of me :eek:

    After I did the two steps, then unplugged the power for 30 seconds, I booted and it started then the computer shut off, BUT on a second attempt all went ok :)
    Then I could not get on the Internet, I discovered that for some odd reason it removed all my settings from tiny firewall (I use it with windows fire wall) but once I figured that out all was well :)

    Thanks Prema!

    Now this is what I thought the BIOS screen should have looked like for a $5000+ system :D

    PS.. I like your bootup screen, much better then the ugly Eurocom one :)

    Now if I can just get up the nerve to flash svl7's NVIDIA 'Maxwell' VBIOS mods...
     
  33. kantana

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    Anyone using the Prema mod bios and Corais Vengeance 2133 ram? My ram is designated CMSX16GX3M2B2133C11 8GBx2 and I'm usibg up2 of these for 32GB total. I managed to boot up in manual settings and it looks correct for CL11 at 2133 but I'm not sure if these are the correct settings?

    Can someone post their settings from the bios as not all of those are shown in XTU or cpuz:

    cpuz.jpg

    xtu.jpg
     
  34. kantana

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    Thanks Prema, I backed up the original bios and it's a 4MB file, does this contain both the EC and normal bios? How do I restore this backup bios? I already successfully updated to the Prema Mod but windows required reactivation over the phone, is this an ongoing thing every time I update the bios?
     
  35. D2 Ultima

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    Looks correct
     
  36. kantana

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    Thanks, just tried gaming but the gpu clocks look to be more unbalanced than on the stock bios. Will game some more to see if it's running the ram at higher clocks that's causing this.
     
  37. D2 Ultima

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    Unbalanced? Like how? What else are you doing with the system besides using 2133MHz RAM? Any CPU or GPU overclocks?
     
  38. GTO_PAO11

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    What screenshot is that?
     
  39. kantana

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    I have kept the same cpu oc as before with the stock bios. No gpu oc at all. The gpu0 and gpu1 clocks seem to vary by a greater amount with Prema mod bios.
     
  40. Shadow-Tek

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    It's my laptop's desktop
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    The GPUs regulate themselves and I don't think the fan profiles are adjusted so the prema bios should not be causing this difference.
     
  42. D2 Ultima

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    Can you give an example? Are both cards downclocking? Do both of them run at different clockspeeds? Have you used the modified vBIOS to keep them at 1127MHz and disable boost?
     
  43. Shadow-Tek

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    Are you referring to this vbios D2 Ultima?
    NVIDIA Maxwell VBIOS mods - 900m series overclocking versions
     
  44. kantana

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    I use adaptive power in my games and it's not affecting my fps as such. The gpus maintain 60 fps but the clocks on each gpu don't match most of the time so I can see variances between them <100Mhz most of the time. I have seen gpu0 with 1500Mhz on memory clocks while gpu1 sits at 2500Mhz or gpu0 at 838Mhz core while gpu1 is at 936Mhz.
     
  45. Azeroth

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    Nevermind. Thanks.
     
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  46. D2 Ultima

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    Yes

    Your cards are not hitting their power limits then. If you don't hit a power limit for system draw, the card will downclock because it doesn't need to be clocked up. This is entirely normal and as you say, does not affect your FPS. If you force power management to "prefer maximum performance" on a game they should sit at 1038 (or 1127 boost if needed) core and 5000 memory 24/7 while using that program.
     
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    For sli I would stick with maximum performance to keep frame times as smooth as possible.
     
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    Hello,

    This is an extension of an earlier question. Monitor I had kept crashing system so returned it. Hopefully a straightforward pair of questions:

    1: Can the thunderbolt port in this laptop drive a 1440p, 144hz screen?
    2. Is the 980m SLI config in this laptop gsync compatible.

    Thanks.
     
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    Also wanting to know.
     
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    Guys, I have a question.

    Do game run flawlessly on SLi 880m's at 120Hz?

    Or are there still needs for some driver updates to fully function at 120Hz?
     
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