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This is exactly what's putting me in a predicament. A 7970m will no doubt last me through my 4-5 years of college. However, I don't think I can pass up on the CUDA support with the CAD and 3D modeling programs I'll be using. Anyone know about how expensive the 680m will be compared to the 7970m?

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Now, if haswell iGPU shows the same kind of gains that ivy showed over sandy (nearly double), then that could eventually become a reality.

OK, first, I doubt Xotic's e-mail said "blah blah blah" and "lolololol"
Also, a C is generally not something to brag about. Bragging is for when you
a) get A's in everything, or
b) get 100%+ in something, or
c) own a really cool laptop.
I got 675m, but I really wanted to get my laptop before school lets out so I get to show it off. Also, I do a lot of rendering stuff, and will start doing a lot of video editing next year, and I bought from Mythlogic so I got the 675m. Maybe I'll get a 7970m later once the supply and drivers stabilize and I've seen what the 680m has to offer.

 

I know this post is a few pages back, but I was just catching up on the thread.

ANYWAY

To get the best performance, make sure you are using programs that are specified for the igpu only, (e.g. not games)

also, heres something a lot of people don't know, there is absolutely NO reason to ever turn the computer to "performance" mode. Balance mode gives the same amount of performance when doing harder tasks, but unlike performance it also adds on to battery life, because its not constantly straining itself.

Power Saver, Balanced, or High Performance? | VariableGHz

 

Apparently you never owned any of the 8000k series..........mmmm gotta love Nvidia marketing that 8600GT which they the knew was faulty but didn't care to tell anyone.

 

I think that both NVidia and AMD are good manufacturers and both have issues every now and then. My last laptop (ASUS F3Sv) had a GeForce 8600M GS which were known for just dying due to not being able to handle their specified max temperature. NVidia had to replace quite a few and for the rest of us fixed the by an update that cranked the fan up to almost full in idle so even on quiet mode my laptop sounded like a jet engine! And they didn't notify anyone that there was even an issue. It was only noted by a number of complaints and questions raised by loud fan noise!

 

I use CAD and 3D modeling of buildings and structures... for normal small simulations and animations you're not really going to really notice the difference in performance wth any of these graphics cards. You can always make a brew while waiting anyways. But hey that's work!

A good game... full 1080 with high detail,textures,shading,shadows... am going to wait for the AMD HD7970... thats play!

 

I'll need an E.Blar approved list of things we can brag about by COB today.

Also, chicks love it when I whip out my lappy and run benchmarks. My friends, too.

 

I was almost scared to read past whip out in that sentence haha!!

I find the 12 second boot time of the laptop is what pleases most people around me! Sad I know!

 

LOL!!

"Baby, check out how fast my new lappy boots. I know how much you like low boot times. Awwww yeahhhhh...."

 

From what I've seen so far is around $499 for the 680m but of course that can most definitely change by the time they come out. Whether its to compete with the 7970m or if they price it based on the laptops that they will be available for so it's kinda hard to say at the moment.

Side note: Can anyone answer my question from the previous page?

 

No sorry it's not possible, and I don't know how to get it .. only a desktop option as far as I'm aware :O
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-011965.htm

 

Thanks!

Also, my mSATA didn't come with any screws, but I'm assuming there will be screws in the notebook where the mSATA goes that will fit it? Can anyone who's put in an mSATA confirm this so I won't have to try to find screws that will fit?

And I'm planning on using the mSATA as an OS drive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to install Windows on it, would I just have to insert my Windows 7 CD, go into the BIOS by pressing F2 and then boot from the CD, and select the mSATA when installing? And then of course once I'm done installing, I'll have to reinstall drivers, and then would I be able to reformat my HDD from within there to get the Windows off of it that Sager installed? Am I missing any important steps?

 

To be honest am not sure about the screw bing already there... I always have a ton of screws spare from my PC build stuff from over the years just be aware that there are a few differnet screw thread spacings used!!... never force a screw and make sure the screw is only just long enough to fit the hole so you don't push anything behind the board.

 

What do you mean by flex memory? These systems will support single or dual channel memory. In certain cases you can run dual channel with unequal amounts of memory in each bank (this is flex memory mode), I don't see why it wouldn't be supported.

 

Yup that's what I meant 'flex memory mode.' Now would that need to be enabled or will it do it automatically?

 

Can we install a sound card in the P150EM? I plan on getting some 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound gaming headphones and want to get the most out of them.

Also OT : but does anyone have a suggestion for some good gaming headphones? I'm looking at Plantronics Gamecom 780 if I go wired; and G930 Logitech if I go wireless; Might go with the 780's as I dont really need wireless as I'll use my U3 Coolermaster laptop cooler in bed and just sit there like a coach potato so I will just plug them in.

 

You just need to have the DIMM's in the right slots, and it will be enabled automagically.

 

The P150EM supports external 7.1CH audio output via the headphone jack. It also includes THX ProStudio sound management software.

 

So how does the THX ProStudio sound management software help?

And this means there is an inbuilt sound card? Or it just supports surround sound via the jack?

 

I can't install intel rapid start technology driver. I triex to follow every instruction from the manual ( creating hibernate partion). I don't know what's wrong. Can someone help me with this?

 

Both. It helps via. a external jack and the speakers too. Both should be slightly improved

 

Hmm... should I stick with 7970M drivers included with Clevo or update to the latest on the AMD site?

That did it, thanks. I'll rep you when I can.

For some reason, I'm not scoring that high at all in 3DM11:

 

8800 GT. It played games on highest settings perfectly all the way until the GTX 265's came out a couple years later. It was no 6800 GT, but it still did a great job.

Are you sure you're not talking about the 6xxx series, though? Those had broken video hardware acceleration. The 8000 series was rebadged as the 9xxx series and ended up being the underlying architecture for at least 3 or 4 generations after that. All the way up to the "Fermi" architecture, i believe.

Yep. Fixed link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...-g73-gsod-fixes-resources-24.html#post6557501

That was a complete *nightmare.* I had to choose between a.) Being able to use drivers that provided huge speed/functionality increases or b.) being able to use my HDMI output. I picked c.) return the laptop.

That really ground my gears, being a big custom desktop advocate. Im really glad I found Sager's products -- they seem like the perfect laptops for seasoned custom-desktoppers such as myself.

 

There was a lot more I could have put there but it would have been very off-topic.

I'm using a sennheiser HD448 right now and I love it. I got it on a shell-shocker from newegg in December for $50.

 

Nope, the 8600GT nVidia, you can google that with lawsuits and a whole list comes up. They overheated to dangerous levels and had some other issues.
It's in the past now.
point being, most of us in the know won't show favoritism for either side. I've had countless ATI cards that ran without issues and a couple of nvidia cards in the mix. Both companies make excellent graphics cards, I just go for whichever I will get the most bang for the buck out of when I need to upgrade.

 

The built in Sound Card is Realtek. It's capable of 7.1 HD audio output. If you're headset is capable of Optical out, you can purchase a TosLink adapter and use Dolby Digital 5.1 output through the combo port.

It doesn't get much better than that.

 

There's on-board sound processing but it's not a discrete card so to speak in the sense that it's removable or upgradeable. THX ProStudio is used for system wide audio settings, including equalizer options and volume control across applications, as well as the level of 'surroundness' (not the technical term I'm sure). You can read on the software/technology here if you'd like.

 

@ awakeN
I would strongly recommend that, at this present time, you stick with the stock factory supplied drivers for your system.

It is not guaranteed that the current drivers available from AMD/ATI will play nice with your system and they may cause undesirable results.

 

I had the NVidia GeForce 8600M GS, 256 MB in my F3Sv... I was advised to update the firmware even though I could see no issues with the laptop running. after I did it my laptop fan was noisy as. The link below is just one of many with the issues people were having. That said I overcloked it and it ran pretty well.

View topic - My HP laptop has the defective Nvidia GeForce 8600M GS GPU • The Nvidia Defect Forum

 

The soundcard is 7.1 THX rated. Output for a 7.1 decoder is via the SPIDIF optical TOS link fibre cable outlet that doubles as the headphone socket.

With wireless headphones you will loose sound quality due to wirelss bandwith limitations so hardwired are better. For the price of a decent set of multiple driver 7.1 headphones your better off with a small surround system and a microphone unless you like to play out and about. Much better emersive experience and surround seperation.

 

I think you should create a topic in the main Sager and Clevo forum asking about it, instead of the owner's lounge topic of the P150EM/NP9150, maybe you will get an answer by someone who knows how to help you there, since more people will see it.

 

Just realised that I didnt answer all your questions...

Thats pretty much it. Just set the mSATA as the primary boot drive in the Bios and off you go. Install windows... then before you install all the drivers let Windows update and do some of the work for you installing recent drivers... then look to see what drivers are still missing in the Device Manange in the Control Panel and go from there. You may need to install a wireless driver to get access to the internet before Windows will update so make sure you download the latest one off the manufacturers website before you start the fresh Windows install and put it on a USB stick. I advise to get the latest manufacturers drivers or for ease those of the Clevo web site... not the driver disk as they will probably be out of date.

Once all the hardware is working then install the programs ie fingerprint scanner, web cam etc. It never harms to save an image of the drive before you install the rest of the 3rd party programs and software.

Dont delete the old Windows off the HDD until your done. That way you can just set that drive as the primary boot drive again and still use the windows on it to download/fix any issues.

 

Oh snap, experienced my first BSOD after opening up Skyrim and continuing my save. Didn't get past the loading screen before BAM! BSOD popped up.

I'll inform you guys if I get any more problems... hopefully I won't because I just got this yesterday :x

 

Aren't the Seinheiser HD448 more for music and not games? I mostly play games; when I listen to music I'll probably use my loud speakers.

 

I prefer music headphones as you can never really get decent surround sound from gaming headphones or not the ones that I have played with. I just bang in my Sennheiser IE 8s and most of the time they delight me with their simple stereo.

 

Just thinking sbout installing Linux Ubuntu or Mint as a second OS on my notebook. Has anyone had any experience with this and how is the hardware support?

Thanks for any input.

 

Thanks, that doesn't sound too hard.

The only reason I thought the screws for the mSATA might be there was because I think I remember someone mentioning in a post somewhere that they had to unscrew a fastening cover or something to get to where the mSATA goes, and I was hoping the screws for that could be used with the mSATA. But if not, do you or does anyone know if I'll be able to screw in the mSATA with M2 x 3mm laptop screws? (I read elsewhere that that would be the size I'd need.)

 

If you continue to get any further BSOD errors, don't forget to try downloading and running WhoCrashed. WhoCrashed 3.03 - CNET Download.com

 

If there is a fastening cover already in place then they are probably the correct screws to use... I'm not to sure what the exact screw size is though to be honest. I just left my laptop with my accountant so can't look... the thread (pitch) seperation can vary on M2 screws so be careful. If the screws don't want to go in easily even though they look the corect size then don't force them as they are most likely the wrong screw or are you are miss threading them. computer screws tend to go in pretty easy until tightened down.

 

What's your budget for headphones? If your budget range is $200+ then I can't recommend Sennheiser 598 enough. They are the dark horse of Sennheiser lineup as they offer the biggest soundstage I have experienced in a headphone at this price range. The sense of 3d space provided via 598s will really help you in your gaming sessions.

 

My budget is $120. Already spent $1600 on the laptop :/ haha.

 

Does anyone have an opinion on the Bose headphones? They seem to be in that price range.

 

Oh, well I haven't had anything that can play games, so I haven't tried these with games. But for music they do perform very well.

Bad driver support=no GPU switching would be my biggest concern.

 

Worth every penny.


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If you plan on frequently using them in a library or other shared quiet place look at the Shure SHR840 and SHR440. They are close to your budget and some awesome sounding over ear headphones. I love my open back headphones (Sennheiser HD650s), but I hate it when people use open back cans in shared quiet areas so I usually default to my SHR840s.

 

Bose is alright... A little bit better than Beats. Among the audiophile crowd, Bose isn't very well respected. A bit overpriced to be honest.

Those Shures are a great option. Two others that rival the SHR840's are the Audio Technica M50 and the Ultrasone HFI-580. There have been tons of comparisons on those three entry levels all over the internet. Personally, I've only tried the M50 and the 580. Both are great, but I found the 580 to be a little more bassy which I prefer.

 

Bose are the Alienware of headphones. Overpriced for what they offer.

 

I'm going to echo what a couple other members have already said. I would stay away from 'gaming' headsets, most of them have a poor price->quality ratio. You'll be better off buying a nice pair of standard headphones and a separate mic. As far as mics go you really cant go wrong with this for the price, it will easily pick up your voice from 4 feet away and sounds clear:
Amazon.com: Logitech USB Desktop Microphone: Electronics

For headphones, the Sennheisers recommended area quite good for the money.

If you ever want a set for traveling I can also recommend the following for a reasonable price:
Sennheiser PX-100ii - these are open but the sound the produce is quite nice, and they fold up quite small as well
Amazon.com: Sennheiser PX 100-II On Ear Miniheadphone (Black): Electronics

NuForce NE-700x - these are great earbuds and compete with $100 sets. You can also consider the Brainwavz M2 but there have been some complaints about the fit with those sets:
Amazon.com: NuForce NE-700X Audiophile-Grade Earphones (Aqua Silver): Electronics

Back on topic a bit - I'm still looking at the NP9150 but haven't ruled out other options. I'm also considering the 17'' version, the Asus G55, or just building a moderate desktop unit. I'm using a 460m video card at the moment and its just starting to show its age, so it may be time to upgrade.

 

Is the hibernation partition the exact same size as the amount of ram you have? Worked for me.

 

If you can bump your budget up a bit, the Audio Technica M50s are supposed to be the best in its class. I've used them, and they are absolutely awesome. You can find them anywhere from $130-150.