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DO you think this one will work and look nice?

 

I just reloaded windows 7, and have not loaded the color calibration yet. The colors are not bad stock, you can also manually adjust the via the control panel > color management. Although this is not as accurate as the calibration software it will help you reduce the saturation if you see any. The screen with 95% and calibration is great especially in games. Haven't watched any movies yet.

Hopefully, that will help your decision.

Although this is nice, it will not fit since the 9150 has a beveled edge.

If you're looking to order this for the 9150 just purchase one from the reseller. It's better to pay the 25 extra and get a Optical Drive Caddy, that will fit spot on then chance it and having to pay shipping back for an RMA. I ordered mine through Xotic and it worked out perfectly. I just installed my Crucial M4 128GB SSD and swapped my 750GB HDD to the optical drive caddy. It works like a charm.

The power Brick is approximtely 1.5 pounds.

Who did you order through. Xotic standard double box came in at 15 pounds. No mishandling, I was home when the UPS delivery guy rolled up.

 

so when I receive my unit, is it necessary to calibrate to see its full potential or just leave as it is?

 

I don't get putting the extra hardrive in the optical caddy, why not just keep the optical dvd burner for movies(etc.) and buy an external hard drive, they are smaller than an external dvd burner to carry around. Maybe someone can convince me of this(am I missing something?)

 

It is more of an availability thing. Do you want to have to pull out an external dvd or external hd for you computer? Most people don't use dvds constantly so prefer built-in hd. So you need the extra storage for data files on the go. Many people watch dvds and music from the hard drive now days also. So have a cd/dvd drive is mainly for installing applications and an occasional dvd/bluray movie.

Edit: It is personal preference. If the cd/dvd is 90% of the time still in the bag, then is it worth it to be built-in?... probably not. If you owned a netbook without a cd/dvd drive it is quite obvious that you use external hard drives a whole lot more than a cd/dvd drive. As for the size comparison you are correct, but it is about practical use... now to shoot myself down and you are talking about dvd burners usb port usage then... it normally uses two, one for power and one for data, so might have an argument there, but you could get a swap out the bays... but I don't know if it is truely plug and play as in you can yank out the drive that easily and drop the other one in. I don't think it's a deal breaker to use two ports once in a while to burn a dvd. I normally burn dvds from a desktop and use a dvd reader on usb because they are smaller and use a single usb port.

 

Every p150hm ships with a medium-sized badger. You need to fight it off to be able to use the laptop. It's Sager's way of ensuring you are man enough to use a machine with this much power

28lbs can't be right. My x7200, m18x and p180hm all shipped under 20lbs.

 

About to order this from Xotic PC, got a few questions

- Is IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU worth it? Or is the stock thermal paste fine?

- 12gb 1600 Mhz RAM or 8gb 1866 RAM?

- mSATA SSD Drive - Is this internal or external? Do the Intel 310 Series mSATA SSD provide as much difference as standard SSD? Is it cheaper to buy one and install it myself?

- 95% NTSC Color Gamut - Does it provide enough improvement to justify $100?

- This will be my first serious gaming notebook (always been a desktop guy). Are all the parts upgradable (CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD, SDD, Optical Drive Bay)?

BTW I plan to do heavy gaming of MMOs (GW2/D3) as well as single player RPGs.

 

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Is this the one you ordered?

Thanks for the reply.

 

Can someone show me a photo of this unit with 95% gamut without calibration? I want to see how it's look.

 

IC Thermal paste is one of the best $20-30 you can spend in my opinion, it helps ensure longer lifespan of your hardware, it can drop your temps 5-10 degrees [Farenheit] compared to normal stock thermal paste.

You won't need 12GB of RAM if you are just playing games. 8GB is plenty for heavy photoshop/gaming etc. 12-32GB RAM are more for 3d designers, programmers, and people that use virtual machines or servers. Stick with 8GB 1333mhz or 1600mhz you won't be able to tell the difference between the two though; I'd go with 1333mhz and save $50. Put that $50 towards an upgraded graphics card or the screen.

The 95% gammut is worth the $100, but most people will say it isn't necessary for gaming, its more for designing where you need perfect color accuracy and range in my opinion. If you aren't a heavy designer I'd put the $100 into the 7970m graphics card along with the $50 you save downgrading to 8GB 1333mhz RAM. They are more important for people that mostly use the computer to game. The stock screens on these Clevo/Sagers is VERY NICE. 300nit brightness and good 60/72e% gammut depending on who you order from which are more than enough for gaming. I had one a few months ago and the stock screen blew me away honestly.

Yes in Clevo P150EM the hardware is ALL upgradeable, that is one of the major selling points of Clevo models.

I would prioritize GPU first, then CPU, then SSD/HDD set up, then RAM, if I were to be using the machine for mostly gaming + some photoshop [which is what I do].


I'm ordering this build from Eurocom : P150EM Racer 2.0 [their gimmick name lol].

i7 3610 Ivy Bridge up to 3.3Ghz Turbo Boost
7970m AMD GPU aka THE BEAST haha
8GB DDR3 1333mhz
72% Gammut Matte 15.6' Display
500GB Hybrid HDD/SSD 4gb Seagate Momentus [Selling this to a buddy and buying a 240/256 GB Sata III SSD].

I'm going to sell the 500GB Hybrid drive to a friend for $90 which is about $10-30 less than the online prices. Then I'm going to put that towards a 240/256GB SSD.

Later this year when the SSD and mSata prices drop I'll be purchasing a 240GB mSata drive to expand my storage. I may also invest in a NAS to use as a home server if I get low on space. I also have a 750GB External for storing files that I rarely use.

It seems like a solid build to me; can't wait to play with the 7970m and backlit keyboard.

Hoping to get it before Diablo 3 comes out... was in beta and man was it awesome.

 

I got a question concerning the ordering with an HDD is primary bay and buying your own SSD to insert once the computer arrives.

When i remove the HDD from the primary and place into the optical bay and insert the SDD in the primary will the computer bios recognize it right away? Will i need drivers etc??

In short I want to know if its a plug and play kind of thing. Can I instal my OS on the SSD right after I placed it in the bay? or is it more complicated?

A short how to guide would help

Cheers,

 

Yes the Mobo should recognize it and you shouldn't need drivers, it acts like any other HDD from what I've read.

 

When my 150HM shipped from Myth I think it was around 25lbs.. They had shipped it in the standard double box, but then put that inside a another huge box filled to the brim with packing peanuts and use a large amount of Mythlogic tape lol.. I don't think it actually weighed 25lbs tbh, but then again I was super excited so I didn't pay much attention to the weight.

 

I'm starting to warm to to Sager/Clevo right now, and Im about to purchase this with the AMD 7970m over the Asus G55.

Just have a few concerns I hope the cominity can help me with.

1: SATA-2. From what I've been able to understand is the P150 supports SATA2 and not SATA3 for SSD. How will this effect the system's performance?

2: Built Quality. Where can I physically play with this system? I like the fact that Asus systems are at Best Buy and Fry's so I can have a better idea of the built quality? Can you please comment between the quality between this system and the Asus G55, for those who used both.

3: Bottleneck. How's clevo board performance running IB Vs SB? Is it the same board? Or has clevo updated it to spacificly run on IB.

Over my main concern and question is if the Clevo the optimal machine to run the AMD 7970M? Or if the SATA 2 and potentially older board holding back the 7970m from performing at it's best?

Is it a good idea to order the p150 now, r
wait for more manufacturers to come up with a system that can take full advantage of the 7970?

 

Ok, I have no clue where I got 28 lbs from apparently. I thought I saw it somewhere but that turned out to be the price.


lmfao i fail

 

1. Not true. Sager models have supported SATA III SSDs since Sandy Bridge came out.

2. We haven't had the G55 in our hands yet, but if it is like the ASUS G53, and it most likely is, build quality will not be a decision point. They are both excellent!

3. The new Panther Point (Ivy Bridge) chipset based motherboards support both Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge...there is no difference in that respect. The Sager NP9150 is using the new Ivy Bridge platform from chipset to processor.

The Sager NP9150 will definitely take full advantage of the AMD 7970M

 

Can I get an mSATA SSD and use it as cache via Intel SRT ? How would I go about setting that up when I receive my unit ? And does SSD size matter for caching 32 vs 64GB ? And does using it as cache only wears it down faster than using it as boot/normal drive

 

Thank for your help. As you can see, I am a Sager nub.

I just found out that I live about 20 min away from Sager. I decided to call Sager office in California to see if I can stop by and see some floor models since I'm about to dump $2k into a Sager product I've never touched and...

SAGER your sales reps needs to take customer service classes! If your sales rep is bad, how bad will your customer service be?

Maybe it's just 1 guy who had a bad day, I hope to get a better service next time I call.

Or maybe I should just wait for another make to have the 7970m.

 

I'd go with 64GB honestly; get the Adata 64GB mSata, I've seen many reviews and benchmarks, its as fast as a Sata II SSD and can be used as an SRT Cache.

I've heard it works great. I almost went with a 500GB 7200 RPM HDD + 64GB Adata mSata for caching; but I decided on a 256GB SSD instead so that it runs quieter and consumes less power. I have heard running an SSD only instead of HDD + SSD or HDD+ mSata will save you up to 45 minutes in battery life.

 

From what I understand the primary HD bay size is 2.5"?

So this meen's that i can purchases ANY SSD with 2.5" labeled on it and it will fit??

 

I have seen that drive and will get that too. Just wonder about the wearing


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This is true. Most of the SSD's i've seen are actually a smaller form factor than a typical 2.5" HDD.

 

Hey guys,

i'm going to buy the np9150 with the 675m and i was reading mixed reviews about the optimus tech and was wondering if you guys could throw some feedback about it.

From what i understand it seems as though if you just manually set what programs you want the 675 to use you should be fine. Also i was surfing around and saw no drivers for the 600m series on the nVidia site for win7 (just linux stuff for models like the 630). So how does that work out with the sager drivers for those?

Thanks

 

If you can, you should wait for the 7970M which is coming out the end of this month. Believe me, it will be worth the wait.

If you can't, yeah, Nvidia doesn't have any of the drivers up past the GT 635M on their site. I dunno.

 

well they say eta - late may and that could get back-ordered and i need it by mid june so i'm kind of worried about that.

 

can anyone help me with 95% gamut? Do I need to make calibration when my unit arrive? Is color going to be too color saturated if I didn't calibration? If it require calibration, is download profile enough for calibration? Any suggestion?

 

From what I understand/read, the 95% screen will be like any other screen you have had in the past, just have a higher visible color spectrum. Calibration is not necessary but more or less "for best results". I think most are overcomplicating the 95% color gamut screen choice. I think the color profiles are not for calibration purposes or even a calibration at all, but a custom color profile is more for a pre-defined "better than normal" look. In the end, it's going to be what you like the look of best.

 

The longer you wait to pre-order, the longer it will take to receive. That's the rule of thumb for any pre-order. Once you submit your order, you're at the end of the line at the time of your order submission/payment. The further down the line you are, the less likely you'll get stock from original stock levels.

 

This is your official friendly NBR notice to not order through Sager. Check out the resellers we've got here on NBR and go with one of them. You're going to get a good deal and much better customer service.

Do you have a source for that? 45mins is quite a while, that would indeed be cool.

It's all personal preference. No one can tell you how you should want to view the screen.. you can always adjust some of the settings from the control panel if it's not to your liking..

 

so do you mean that there will be problem with 95% color gamut and I shouldn't upgrade?

 

Do I set in the bios to RAID or just AHCI if I just want to use it as cache


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No, not at all. I'm just saying that if you go to a big box store such as Best Buy and buy a laptop, the screen will look however it looks without any sort of calibration. Those screens can and usually look just fine. When you toss "color calibration" and "95% color gamut" into the mix, I think it's adding confusion about what to do or what to buy.

Buying a 95% color gamut screen is going to end up looking great with or without the color calibration. Just think of it as any other LCD you would get with any other laptop with one exception, you have more viewable colors from the color spectrum... a higher quality screen.

Calibration will only fine tune the video card output to the "perfect" color balance for the best possible picture. It's all subjective. What one person thinks is perfect may, in fact, not be perfect to another person. By calibrating the screen, it takes the human eye out of the equation and uses a mechanical form of color detection to aid in the calibration of the output on the screen.

I hope what I said clarifies more than it confuses. It makes sense in my mind.

Maybe I'm wrong here but...
Isn't using the mSATA card as cache more or less a more glorified way of using ReadyBoost in Windows 7 with an SD card where it puts system files for start up and applications onto the mSATA drive for faster access times and thus, better overall performance?

Adding to that, I don't think you're ever going to use RAID unless you're trying to do RAID 0 for better performance by combining two drives or RAID 1 if you're mirroring for data redundancy. So my educated guess (even though I have not used mSATA for caching purposes, storage purposes, or OS drive purposes) would be keep it set to AHCI.

Once you have an mSATA drive installed and visible within Windows 7 would be to configure it within Windows to use it for caching... How is for someone else to answer.

 

Thanks for answering though, I never see high quality screen before. I am currently using 720p screen on my laptop. I hope it will be amazing screen

 

Going from 720p to 1080p is tremendous and an awesome upgrade by itself. You will be more than happy because you're going from a VW Jetta to a Porche 911.

 

Has anyone had trouble with the keys not being responsive? I recently ordered a Lotus P150EM-SE from Malibal and my 'q' key is pretty unresponsive if i don't push it down hard.

 

What do you guys think of rams? 16bg of 1600mhz or are the 1866mhz woth the upgrade?

 

1333, 1600, 1866... All are negligable in performance. Outside of benchmarking, you won't notice a different in performance. In normal use, 8gb vs 16gb is also the same, no real noticable difference. Spend your money on GPU upgrade, SSD, LCD, and distant 4th, a CPU.

 

unless your doing photos our really need the color to be an exact match. I think the stock setting without calibration would be fine. Keep in mind you should calibrate where you will be using the laptop the most since light conditions will change the way the display looks. You could also set multiple calibrations, but this would require the actual software and device.

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I run the ssd in the main bay to take advantage of the sata III connection. I swapped the optical drive because once I install all my programs I will use it maybe once or twice a month.

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I selected the one in the configuration setup. If you order this, ask if it it's the one for the 9150.

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I should ask, if Intel Ultimate-N 6300 is ordered, do they install the 3rd antenna in the frame of the display? Or does it just come with 2 antenna?

 

It will come with 3 antennas.

 

I would contact the Malibal and see if you can send it back to get looked at.

This is directly addressed at what your normal use is which is slightly subjective but relative to how often you push the box. It might be noticable, but might not be worth it depending on what you are looking for. Maybe you can find something more worthwhile or maybe you can't. It is a cost benefit of what you want from the box. Pay for performance or pay for what you don't want to upgrade later. The order listed is more to performance... not upgradability so that may be something to consider. Build for now or build for later...

 

^^^Agreed^^^

 

OK perhaps ignorant questions, but it appears that if I have the BluRay writer (which I need as an integral part of my video editing) and the 750 GB 7200 rpm HD, my only choice for the mSATA ssd is the 80gb one configured as an OS drive or SRT drive? (I don't even know what the SRT config is.)

I'm checking to see if PowerDirector 10 will be able to use the 7970m acceleration options (I know it utilizes CUDA with the nVidia cards.) I can wait.

Did someone say you can actually calibrate the colors on the LCD? Never heard of that in a notebook! I actually have the software and hardware to do that myself (a Spyder 3 as a matter of fact, I have calibrated some LCD and Plasma TVs.) That is cool.

 

This is what I'm looking at for a machine optimized for video editing. The two things I am unsure on are the 80gb SRT SSD (supposed to provide overall increase in HD speed, right?) and the 7970m, just because I don't know yet if my video editing program (PowerDirector 10 from Cyberlink) takes advantage of it the way it does CUDA in nVidia cards.

Any other suggestions?

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Where are you ordering this from? and what is the total price?

 

So I ordered my NP9150 from Xotic yesterday and it's in Phase 2 now, SO EXCITED!

I did a lot of extensive research, but can anyone educate me further on the purpose of the Optical Bay Drive Caddy?

I chose it as one of my options because I hope to insert my primary HDD in there and buy a new SSD to replace the primary bay sometime in the future.

Will it be this easy or do I have to buy something else?

Any NP9150 reviewers from this thread yet? ^^ Waiting on Networkgamer's NP9170 review but that's a different machine.

 

Specced it at Malibal, haven't ordered yet. Total price was a touch over $2000.

 

Congrats on your order!

Yes the Optical Bay Drive Caddy is so you can mount a hard drive in it then put that in the optical drive bay. You can remove the bezel from the optical drive to keep the flush look.

 

Question: I see on the Malibal site an option for an 80GB SSD to be set up as an SRT drive. But the max size for SRT is 64 GB, right? Is that just a waste of the other 16 Gig?

 

I've got a pair of NP9150s coming from Xoticpc! Thanks guys! I'm Excited to get back to work (and play)