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    *** Official Clevo N870HJ1,N870HK1 / Sager NP6870,NP6872 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Noctilum, Feb 8, 2017.

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    Though it might perform well I am extremely concerned that a heat pipe is so close to the battery location and the chipset it not have any heatsink
     
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    The chipset can often not have one as the airflow can be better than some heatsink jammed in a closed case.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 6, 2017
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    I agree with that however though that could be the case i dont see any reason this is the case because of the lack of ventilation and only two fans, that said my real point of concern is that one heat pipe intersects right by the battery and that is just asking for trouble.
     
    ImHere, Mar 7, 2017
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    i'm considering to buy this Laptop in a few days, but i'm not quite sure about the system noises... Is it running completely silent when idiling ? Because i want to use it also for office work, it would bother me, when the fans are loud all the time. :)
     
    Connebe, Mar 12, 2017
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    Mine is completely silent under idle. Only when heavy processing occurs does the fan noise increase. And even then, the noise is not crazy, it's moderate noise imo.
     
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    I just bought this laptop and I'm pleased with it so far. Of course, it has only been a couple days, so it's only expected that a brand new laptop would perform well at this point.
     
    One of the good guys, Mar 20, 2017
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    First pro review
     
    vifiadar, Mar 20, 2017
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    I just purchased the N850HK1: 16GB RAM, 512SSD, 1050ti 4gb, IPS panel, white Keyboard (RGB wasn't available yet). I'll post some pictures when arrives home.
     
    vifiadar, Mar 21, 2017
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    Currently awating the arrival of my N870HK1 after extensive research. (Thanks for being a great community and thus repository of experience and knowledge).

    So far I have been unable to track down a service manual of the new series. Does anyone know a place to find them?
     
    Jiinia, Mar 24, 2017
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    Thinking about getting the N870HK1. Does this have a dedicated button to enable/disable optimus mode, just like my W370ET?
     
    iGoat, Mar 31, 2017
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    No it does not!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Mar 31, 2017
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    Oh ok. So how is optimus mode controlled? (I spend most of my time not gaming).
     
    iGoat, Mar 31, 2017
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    It´s automatic.
    NVIDIA gets activated only when you open a 3D accelerated app, like a game.
    NVIDIA control panel also gives you some power over this and you can even add a nifty icon in your windows taskbar that will show when NVIDIA Kicks IN YO!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Mar 31, 2017
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    iGoat Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the speedy reply.
     
    iGoat, Mar 31, 2017
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    You can set to only use igp or only dedicated in the nvidia control panel but it's not really changing the architecture and is for trouble shooting.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 31, 2017
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  17. LiamHail

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    Hello, ordered an NP6872/N870HK1 yesterday from LPC-Digital. Looking forward to it in the coming weeks once it is built and shipped. These are its specs, the only change is the WD Black 512gb m.2 SSD and no HDD. Going to upgrade the RAM at some point once my wallet recovers. The main usage of this is for programming and minor graphic design work. I am a Meteorology Student, so python, java and C and creating weather maps and graphics. Occasional gaming too. Eventually going to add a second drive and dual boot it with LINUX.
    Display: 17.3” Full HD (1920 x 1080) Clear IPS Matte Display
    CPU / Processor: 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz)
    Video & Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1050Ti GPU with 4GB GDDR5 Video Memory Switchable GPU by NVIDIA® Optimus™ Technology
    Memory: 8GB DDR4 PC4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) Memory (1 x 8GB)
    Operating System: Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media) ($70.00)
    Thermal Compound: Standard Clevo Thermal Compound
    M.2 SSD Drive Slot: WD® Black™ 512GB Performance M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (OS DRIVE) - Special! ($210.00)
    Primary Hard Disk Drive: None - No Primary Hard Drive/SSD(NOTE: Only available if M.2 SSD Selected) (-$50.00)
    Wireless Network Card: Intel® Dual Band Wireless- AC 3165 Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module
    Branding: Sager Branding
    AC Power Adapter: Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 120W AC auto switch Adapter
    Primary Battery: Removable 6 cells Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 62WH
     
    LiamHail, Apr 7, 2017
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    Nice setup and it's pretty easy to upgrade the ram too :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 8, 2017
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    One of the main reasons I picked it up. The upgrade ability is top notch for extended use past the components life spans so it's great.
     
    LiamHail, Apr 8, 2017
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    Sabre27, Apr 9, 2017
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  22. LiamHail

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    When I ordered my laptop from @LPCDigital I spoke with Larry on the phone specifically about the availability of the Prema Bios specifically. He had said due to the laptop type and model number being so new it might or even will be a while before we have access to a version. Right now it's fingers crossed a version rolls out sooner rather than later. Bought it to do what I needed the more I can do that the better.
     
    LiamHail, Apr 15, 2017
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    What are you trying to do that needs the options?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 15, 2017
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    Eventually I am dual booting with Linux and running some advanced meteorological numerical models on the laptop. As well as straight coding and other related instances. There's certain things that I'll need to run certain ways to optimize the true value of the equipment.
     
    LiamHail, Apr 15, 2017
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  25. Meaker@Sager

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    If it's specific options you need to do your work, please feed that back to your reseller as useful for end users to have.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 15, 2017
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    Will do, still waiting for it to arrive. Wednesday, and then I have to mess around with it to fully understand what and how I'm going to make this work baby steps lol. And also continue hardware upgrades, more RAM and a secondary SSD eventually...
     
    LiamHail, Apr 15, 2017
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    They are pretty easy to add in later :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 15, 2017
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    I don't think this model might even get Prema BIOS... It's too low range for it... However,. Prema in the past hase made BIOS's for such models so there is a chance... @Prema can confirm accordingly!
     
    TomJGX, Apr 19, 2017
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    We can dream haha

    Received my laptop as well so I will be posting some pictures soon and some initial thoughts on the Laptop and how it's running and such. I know the last attempt has dead links.
     
    LiamHail, Apr 19, 2017
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    I can share my BIOS it is highly modified but will work on your unit.
    The problem is... are you OK with voiding the warranty? Because the moment you flash my BIOS your shop can claim warranty void!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Apr 20, 2017
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    Highly modified? Sounds intriguing. What do you have in mind? Anyway, me and other users would be glad if you share links and how to flashing manual, as the warranty does not bother me very much.
     
    FTW_260, Apr 20, 2017
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    Might be a bit scary... im off for today.
    Send me a PM if you really want to update the BIOS.
    For now it´s better by PM so i can walk you through, the last thing i want is for you guys to brick the units!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Apr 20, 2017
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    You know when some small thing does not work or some software compatibility issue hits your door will break down from people saying you should be fixing it however :p
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 20, 2017
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  34. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Not sure i get this message :p
    But if i understand correctly then yeah, i dont want to be responsible for people complaints, specially if they think i have any obligation to "fix" something which i did not sold.
    Was that your point?
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Apr 21, 2017
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    Exactly right, people will expect 24/7 service ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 21, 2017
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  36. Galm

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    Wait you aren't open 25/8? Ugh pathetic. When I was a kid we has real customer service. /s

    Hey so jokes aside, how is the cooling on the 1050 Ti models on this and the 15" version? I'm somewhat confused because I'd seen some pretty solid gpu temps, but then I think I saw a company rep saying somewhere that the N850HK1 can't handle a 1050 Ti well.
     
    Galm, Apr 21, 2017
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    I apologize, but because I'm new to this forum, I can't send you a PM. Could you give me an email where i could write you or write me in PM first? Thx.
     
    FTW_260, Apr 21, 2017
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  38. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Fairly sure his email is just [email protected]
     
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    I've been write to this email, but there are no answer after a few days.
     
    FTW_260, May 4, 2017
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  40. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    @Mr. Fox is that email wrong?
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I don't think so. Looks right to me. Maybe @John@OBSIDIAN-PC is on vacation or out sick. When was he last here on the forum?

    Edit: John@OBSIDIAN-PC was last seen: Today at 7:35 AM
     
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    Yes that email does not exist, my email is [email protected] !!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, May 4, 2017
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    FTW_260, May 4, 2017
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    I just replied!
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, May 4, 2017
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    Just flashed bios from @John@OBSIDIAN-PC, in two clicks and two mins a have a new bios on my laptop. Flashing process made me little nervous) But everythings is ok, tons of new settings, quieter fan noise and cool bootlogo are included. Many thanks, John!
     
    FTW_260, May 4, 2017
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    Flashing even makes the pros a little nervous on that first boot :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, May 5, 2017
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    John, I have a n850hk1 from pro-star. Their bios sucks very badly and I would really appreciate it if you could send me the latest obsidian bios! [email protected]
     
    charlton, May 20, 2017
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    John, I have a n850hk1 from pro-star. Their bios sucks very badly and I would really appreciate it if you could send me the latest obsidian bios! [email protected]
     
    charlton, May 20, 2017
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    Hi John,

    I humbly ask for your help concerning updating the BIOS for Clevo N870HJ1

    I just want to know which method you used to successfully update the BIOS. I keep getting the error “18 - error: secure flash rom verify fail” when I try to flash the BIOS using AMI’s BIOS tools.

    Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you!
     
    Blockhouse462, Jun 6, 2017
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    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Where did you get that BIOS ? That is a nonsigned BIOS.
    New version just came out Bios 1.05.10 and EC 1.05.07
    Let me get this ready and ill share it in a bit. It will be stock CLEVO version and NOT my modded OBSIDIAN-PC version.
     
    John@OBSIDIAN-PC, Jun 7, 2017
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