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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by N2ishun, May 12, 2020.

  1. Lzealot

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    Yeah my impression of this thing is a Ferrari engine shoved into some thin the size of a Honda Civic. It's raw and needs a lot of reinforcing to keep the body whole, but it sure does make tire spinning fun!!!

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  2. N2ishun

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    OK so I ran cinebench twice.
    The first is with a 75 undervolt and the second is with fans set to max and no undervolt.
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    Scored better than a 12 corew 24 thread Xeon....still dunno tho, how's it look ?
     
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    You've got mine beat. I had
    Balanced Mode 3036
    Performance Mode 3218point.

    That was without max fans and with a -70 undervolt.
     
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    Thanks for posting your numbers! I've been waiting for something to compare to. I did 4 runs.

    -100 millivolt Max Fans
    Entertainment Mode 3180
    Performance Mode 3418

    No Undervolt Max Fans
    Entertainment Mode 2832
    Performance Mode 3015

    You've got some great numbers. I might try for a repaste when I open it up to add in the second SSD. It's interesting to see the Matching Identical System numbers are so much different. You machine is a much higher average. I assume it's because your 2060 allows more headroom for your CPU compared to the 2070.

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  5. N2ishun

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    That's what...about 15% or so discrepancy ? It shouldn't be that much.
    The temp where I'm at was about 60*F when I ran it and I had a window open....possibly making the cpu run cooler so it could boost higher ?!?
    I did not check temps or amperage draw but even still it shouldn't be that much difference.
    Kill your XTU and try again with max fans if you could please, curiosity is kickin in.
    Yea I know....these things are alot to get used to and understand fully without a larger user base.....am I right ?

    {edit} Never mind, you posted as I was typing{/edit}
     
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    I see the difference now.
    I'm running LTSC win10 with very little running in the background (more like zero running in the background).
    Are you running home or pro ? and taskbar says you've got lots running and possibly using resources.
    I am running 2666 ram and do intend to step that to probably 3200 but I don't know if cinebench even hits ram....
     
  7. Lzealot

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    I might try and do a selective startup and leave everything off and try again. I'm thinking the difference is the GPU. In runs during cinebench which eats up some of the thermal room for the CPU. I didn't check the amps for it though.

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    I meant to compare thermals with and without hyperthreading, lower temps may balance out less threads for most applications.
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Hyperthreading is now used by a fair few programs and does produce extra performance and heat. The trick with the 10th gen CPUs is that it wont be all or nothing it can be selected per core with the right firmware support.
     
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    I only looked quickly in the bios, but I don't remember seeing a way to disable per core ht. I'd have to check again though. I knew this machine would be a furnace, between the 115w super 2070 and the 14nm Intel chip.
    If they had an and chip with a 2070 or 2080 max q I would have grabbed that in a heartbeat.

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    I can kill most of those off and try again but I actually had better numbers w them running then when I had clean install.

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    Looks like you were right. I reran after shutting down as many services as I could. It made for a lower CPU start temp and I got a much higher number afterwards.
    I'm not sure if it had the -100 undervolt though since the intel XTU service was also stopped. I used Hwinfo to get some data.
    I restarted just hte xtu service to prove the undervolt is in place. going to rerun and see if I get the same numbers.

    *Ok, I re-enabled Intel XTU and it reported the undervolt was active. I actually tested it by removing the undervolt.and my benchmark dropped to 3044 on rerun. With undervolting back in place it gave me a 3839.*
     

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    XTU writes to the bios until restart so it will hold when closed yes.
     
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    It holds after restart even when the service is disabled. I was surprised by that. I thought it applied settings after every boot as long as the service is enabled.

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    It will clear with a full power off, a soft reset it will keep yes.
     
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    Glad it works like that otherwise I'd have no way to keep an undervolt without having the XTU service running. This way lets me shut it off for a clean run for benchmarks.
     
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