**OFFICIAL M860TU/ETU Owners Lounge**

CPU gets around 55 degrees, GPU gets around 78 degrees.

 

Well then, it looks like I'll be upgrading the fan to the nc-2000 just to be on the safe side and going ahead and just slightly overclocking to see what kind of speed I can get while still avoiding any heat issues.

Thank y'all for the quick, and lenghty, replies. I really do appreciate it : ) I think I may be just savvy enough I'm going to go ahead and try running just a straight Linux operating system and using Wine/Virtual Machine to run windows games. I have a rather intelligent friend that's offered his help in the matter and after playing with a Ubuntu Live CD on a friends laptop, I'm rather excited lol.

Thank y'all for the quick, and lenghty, replies. I really do appreciate it : )

 

I can also say that my P9500 is at 19 - 21 degrees idle and 48 - 52 at load. The gpu on the other side produces more heat than yours; maxing out at 85 - 86 degrees....

So those temps on the p9500 isn't impossible to reach.

 

If you're room temperature is above 19-21deg then the reading is wrong.

I'm not saying your room temp is above that, but I'm just saying that it is impossible to cool your processor to below room temperature without using phase change or thermoelectric cooling.

I remember someone once telling me that their processor ran idle at 12deg, with standard heatsink/fan cooling in a 25deg room...I laughed.

 

hey guys,
i'm having a serious problem. I'm hearing a whirring/grinding sound coming from the right side of the laptop; i'm having a hard time localizing it on the right side. What moving part would I be looking at here? HDD or a fan? It is not a very loud sound, but it's definitely not a sound I should be hearing. This is really worrying me. It almost sounds like the HDD is constantly being written to, but more mechanical. (I know that's a bad description, but it's not an easy sound to describe). Anyone have any ideas before I call up Eurocom?

 

Maybe your fan's wire is touching the fan blades? Something like that?

Pretty easy fix, just take the back panel off and move the wire. If that's the problem anyway.

 

I know this may be a dumb question, but can you have the bottom panel off while the laptop is running, just so I can see/hear properly where the sound is originating from?

 

update: the sounds frequency and intensity decrease when in "Silent Mode". Does the fan still run in silent mode, just a whole lot slower?

 

Umm... you could... it's not recommended.


Does it really sound more like a beeping? Or as if something is hitting something else. Try recording it if you can.

 

it's definitely not a beeping sound. It does not sound like an electronically created sound, definitely something mechanical. Almost like the fan might be loose or something... I think opening it up and running it might be my only option to see exactly what the problem is. Sounds like tomorrow's project though..

to add, when I engage "Silent Mode", the frequency of the sound decreases slowly, kind of like it's winding down or something, but then levels off at a slower speed.

 

Silent mode shuts off your fan unless your case is getting very hot... so in actuality, if it was the fan, silent mode would get rid of the sound completely.

Yeah, try running it with the case open, but be careful in doing so.

I've done it once before, it's a bit tricky to not touch anything running, while inspecting the computer at the same time.

 

i hate this sound anyway most of the people here have that problem

clevo is sure taking their time to fix this

 

After Undervolting my M860tu, I don't recall hearing that sound. Maybe it's not gone, but I haven't noticed it since.

UnderVolting Guide

 

I don't think the same sound we experienced was his problem actually.

He claimed it sounded mechanical, not like a beeping.

 

hey guys can anyone link me to the driver for the Bluetooth in M860TU thx

 

to clarify, the sounds I am currently experiencing:

1) The high pitched buzzing sound
2) A mechanical type 'whirling' sound, which sounds like my fan may be loose.

I have tried removing the bottom panel to take a look inside my laptop, but the screws are in there SUPER tight, and I do not want to wear down the screw head.

I'm emailing Eurocom right now...

 

There is no bluetooth driver. It should work on both XP and Vista when you turn it on (Fn+12). But a third-party device may need drivers to work.

 

but ever time i turn the bluetooth on, the windows asks for a driver for installation

 

Just got my np8660

 

congrats mortalcombat,unleash the beast.

 

I just chose to ignore the message since bluetooth is working correctly:

 

Do you think it's possible to swap the stock 9800M GTS fan with a better (read: more silent) one? I did some digging and found out it's a Forcecon Brushless Motor, F806 DC 5V, 0.5A, DFS531105MC0T.

Just wondering in my personal quest of getting the M860tu as silent as possible.

 

I think someone did or found out that they could, but it was very expensive.

 

Hmm, that would certainly be interesting. I suppose silence is a virtue

Anyways, I ordered my laptop yesterday so here comes the waiting process before I become an official owner lol. I guess there's plenty to read up on the laptop here and a whole slew of linux information hehe.

/cheers
Ryki

 

i'm a proud new NP8660 owner. specs in my sig!

awesome laptop.

 

Nice specs! Trust me, you won't be disappointed with the T9800. It's a beast.

 

Is anyone experiencing downclocking during battery mode? I mean, yea, the clock is locked during battery mode, so, overclocking won't work, but downclocking the CPU even on high performance? I've even altered the advanced settings so that the laptop uses 100% of the cpu even during battery mdoe.

It seems that my CPU's multiplier is stuck at 6 (i've got the p8400) whenever the laptop goes into battery mode. Any way around this? Or is this inevitable? The previous laptop I had, hadn't got this problem.

 

Thats how it is with gaming notebooks. Its very normal.

The CPU/videocard is downclocked while its on battery... which is a low level setting.

You can bypass the downclocks of the CPU and videocard by modifying the clocks by using programs like RMclock for CPU, and RivaTuner or modified Nvidia drivers (where the Powermizer settings are set to max performance at all times, or is disabled in the registry).

Would not help much though since you will have to plug back in to AC power when you realize by forcing full performance of the CPU and GPU to play games will only give you about 45 minutes of game time.

 

The GPU I can bare with, but not the CPU downclock, as the whole laptop becomes slow with the processing.I've tried out RMclock (undervolt purposes), but apparently, it doesn't recognize half multipliers.

Anyway, thanks for the reply, as my previous laptop does downclock the GPU, but the CPU would be on full speed even on battery mode, so, I thought I had messed up some settings.

 

RMclock is in need of serious updates to fully support the new CPU platforms like Centrino 2 (Montenvina) which the Clevo M570TU/ETU and M860TU are using.

there are other CPU programs that can control the CPU throttle.... like NHC.

RMclock should be able to force CPU clocks on battery if you set the Performance on Demand profiles... although I have not done it on Centrino 2 notebooks yet.

 

It does. However, since it's unable to compute half multipliers, it actually uses 8.0x instead of 8.5x, I guess it's better than having to deal with 6.0x, but I'll just wait on and see. Previously I was using RMclock to undervolt, but after discovering this, I scrapped the whole undervolt idea.

 

Why exactly is the author of RMclock not supporting Montevina?

 

the team that created RMclock dispersed a while back.

a new team is assembling... even had a thread about it on NBR since a few of our members have applied to be on the new team.

 

I experienced the same thing beginning about a month into owning my m860tu. For a while I thought it was the HDD getting whacked, but I eventually realized it was the fan. Sounds like a little tiny diesel engine idling inside your laptop, right? I took the bottom panel off, cleaned everything out with compressed air, and put it all back together. Make sure you have a little screwdriver that fits the screws properly so you don't strip the heads. If you don't, go buy one; they're cheap. I put it all back together, and viola, the noise was gone. For a while. It's been about 2 months, and the sound is starting to come back. I've decided that it's just a bit of a loose bearing and as the dust gets in there the fan begins to slop around a bit. I'm going to open it up again and give it a good cleaning today. I'll let you know it if fixes it again.

 

Hey Pilot,
I figured it would have been something like that. I do have a small screwdriver set, but ALL the screws seem to be in there really tight, and I do not want to strip the screws by forcing them too much. I think i'm just going to have to send it in to Eurocom so they can deal with it; they are also going to do that BIOS update for me as well, a procedure I wasn't too comfortable doing on my own. Was your fan loose or anything, or was it just dust? I can't see how that much dust could have accumulated in my laptop in such a short time....

 

Nah there's no play when I try to move it around with my fingers, so I'm actually thinking it's the fan rubbing on something, like maybe the plastic they put in there to promote HDD airflow. Not sure though.

 

Im hoping some of you can help.

Lately, I have been have some random downclocks when I play games or watch movies. If it helps, I get higher FPS by playing (testing) with silent mode on compared to normal mode. It lasts about 10 seconds, sometimes longer. When I watch movies it lasts 2-5 seconds and its veery stuttering making it unwatchable.

Graphicdrivers are not the problem here, cause it has happend with every one the last month and I have tried a alot and installed then correctly.

When I think about it, the random stuttering while playing movies has happend since the very start I got the laptop, I think. At least for a long time.

Thx for helping.

 

What are your temps? Run CPU ID HW Monitor (during idle & during load) and report back. Also, make sure you're not running in silent mode (halfspeed/i.e. your fans aren't kicking in/M button to the left of the power button).

Also, take a look at your fan, and clean out any fuzzballs that are blocking it up (I clean mine every month or so at the latest, more in the summer, use a Q-tip and alcohol) and if you want remove the back panel and make sure there isn't dust/fuzzball buildup everywhere.

Make sure your graphics drivers are up to date (latest from laptopvideo2go.com); my video stuttered on stock/early drivers as well right off the bat. I usually have antivirus (but not firewall) and other programs turned off while playing video; those really cut into CPU time. I do get stutters sometimes though because I run firefox and a ton of other windows tiled across my screen; if I don't have those running I run very smoothly.

 

My temps are fine. Idle, the highest are the HDD with 43C. At load the GPU peaks at 85C, but 80ish are more common, CPU peaks at 70C and ACPI peaks at 70-75C.

I use the newest DOX driver, 185.20.

I just found out that the downclock happen when i play WC3, only, it seems, which doesnt really matter since its not a demanding game. However, the stuttering during movies are really anoying.

 

+1 Owner

Love it!

Vista Ultimate x64
P9600 (2.66GHz)
9800M GTS
4GB RAM

3DMark06: 9136 (185.20 drivers)

Max temps: (cool room, 65F)
core 0: 60C (orthos 5 min)
core 1: 56C
GPU: 70C
HDD: 56C

I'm thinking about undervolting my CPU but I don't want to do it if it downclocks due to the half multiplier... So does the P9600 2.66GHz (not T9600) use half multipliers?

Thanks.

 

For those of you that haven't heard yet, the latest version of Nibitor (4.8) now has native support for the 9800m GT! We don't need to change out 9800s to 8800GTXs anymore ^^.

 

PCMW is offering quad core chips in the M860TU now? I thought the new motherboard revision hasn't happened yet. Did I miss something?

 

I think the revision already shipped quietly.... cannot confirm though.

 

Ah I see.

Is there any chance that the M860TU will come with an ATI 4850 anytime soon?

 

not sure about that.

as long as there is a standardized MXM-III or IV card that wont give off too much heat, there is hope.

 

All right, thanks Gophn. By the way, it looks like both Eurocom and PCMW are offering quad core CPUs now.

I'm slowly starting to look at the M860TU, but I'm not that excited about the current model. I think I'm waiting for something big to happen, like a new GPU or new CPU chipset. Calpella with new quad cores and a new Nvidia GPU line up would be sweet.

 

I'll be buying a 4870 to test out in my M860TU.

The only "new" GPUs we'll see before Q4 will be the 55nm 9800M GTX and GT(?), and Calpella is steadily inching itself closer to 2010. That's a long wait.

 

Do you think the refresh on the GT with the nm resize will mean a new release of GT cards becoming available in M860TU models again?

It could possibly be with 1024MB VRAM like the GTS was with it's 55nm version.

 

Has anyone who purchased their M860TU from Eurocom attempted to remove the Eurocom logo? Seems like a sticker that can be removed easily.

 

It's embedded under a layer of plastic. I assume you could remove the whole thing, but I'm not sure how hot that'd look.