EVOC P870DM3 Review by Phoenix

How is this as a final build?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ykPFYCNyvkTHd6LVJ0cXg5bkk/view?usp=drivesdk

 

perfect, except I would get all three m.2 SSDs the same model size/ that way if you ever decide to RAID them all, you would get the best performance.

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How much percentage would it be?

 

Isn't 3k screen having banding issues?


Can its panel be changed to something else gt73vr panel
Or razer blade pro(highly doubt it would be possible)

 

no, you can only choose the 3K or 4K screens on the P870DM3 but confirm with HIDevolution about that

The banding issue is there if you stick your face close to the screen at normal viewing angles it's fine, not as crisp as the FHD 120hz/5ms screen on the MSI GT73VR Titan Pro though just to be completely honest with j00

 

very small discount, i think it's 20 or 30 USD but hey, every penny counts right. Something is better than nothing

 

Thanks

 

@Phoenix
How much of sound quality difference is between Evoc p870dm3 and msi gt73vr?

 

didn't measure it to be honest. I'm always in a cafe these days so I cannot hear anything anyway it's too loud here

 

Certainly compared to past designs my speakers certainly are the loudest/clearest I have had on both the jack and internal speakers.

 

I can chime in. Audiophile and I'm using an USB DAC with P775.

The headphone out of P775 is the best found on a laptop, period.

The speakers are also the best found on a laptop, they require playing with their effects to sound their best.

 

Btw anyone using audio technica headphones on clevo?

 

Which model?

It should drive ATH M50 very well

 

P870km1
M30X's impedance=47 ohms

 

Don't mind the impedance. Anything over 32 ohm but under 100 ohm is the same thing. You would have to calculate impedance relative to efficiency if you want to know how loud it will be, but my 64ohm dj one pro from ultrasone is driven more than adequate from P775 so don't mind those things too much!

Also, m50 and m50x both have the exact same SPL and impedance - 99 dB and 38 ohm.

M30x has 96dB and 47 ohm, but you aren't going to feel a big difference there

Higher impedance means better filetring of the sound, not necessarily lower volume, but for 30x you will get lower volume as the SPL is also lower. All in all, your next step of audio is probably a FiiO X3ii or X5ii or X5-3

 

The dB level for sensitivity should really be given as 96dB/mW or 96 dB SPL/mW as it's a measurement of "sensitivity" not actual SPL - it's the relationship between the input power and output SPL i.e. 1mW results in 96dB SPL with the M30x units. But because we're dealing in dB which is a logarithmic scale, +3dB doubles the power but it doesn't double the (perceived) volume.

The best/easiest way to explain the impedance is that it's a measurement of the resistance of the speaker coils - the higher the impedance the more power you need to drive the coils. Very generally in headphones, a higher impedance would be due to larger coils, which would usually be matched with a larger driver.This shouldn't be taken as the same for all headphones and definitely not directly transferable to enclosed or reflex speakers.

 

The output auto senses the impedance of the connected headphones and adjusts accordingly.

 

Any way to increase the battery life to atleast 3.5 hrs?
@Phoenix
If you switch to the integrated graphic card in 73vr does that affect the battery life?
If it does is there anyway to possibly try that method to p870km1?

 

Yes offcourse, I get 3 to 3.5 hours battery life when I'm using the Intel Graphics on the MSI

You can't do that on all the P87xxx models as the Intel GPU is disabled permenantly

 

Any other way? Like disabling sli or any way of automating the process to down clock the cpu if it is not connected to mains?
If disabling sli can one person use a single 330W power brick then?
I wanted to know the way to increase the battery life to atleast 3.5 hrs

 

1) Disable SLI
2) Go to PC Settings > Network > Airplane mode > then turn off Bluetooth
3) Turn screen brightness down a little bit to a comfortable level
4) Change Windows Power Plan to Battery saving

 

Anyway to enable it? Prob a prema update or something?


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Not to my knowledge. @Mr. Fox

 

I bought this laptop 'cause im a desktop guy, and I dont like to feel restricted. Hope that is something we can see in a coming update from prema.


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no offense bro but this laptop was never advertised to have the ability to use the Intel HD Graphics now any other Clevo P87XXX series for that matter. you should have gone with a laptop that does come with the Intel HD Graphics.

For example, I recently sold this laptop and went for an MSI GT73VR Titan Pro. You can choose either the Intel HD Graphics or nVIDIA GPU by pressing on a little button on the right next to the num pad to switch between the 2 GPUs. That way, you can still have GSYNC as both GPUs are not working together, it's either or. So when Im out and about and need more battery life, I just switch to the Intel HD Graphics and get 3.5 hours of battery life

 

None taken. I love horse power and this my first monster laptop. And for what I found it was the more powerful when I bought it. But I dont know much about laptops. Since I could put regular desktop parts, it make me feel at easy. I dont need the internal gpu. But I just dont like to feel that mine arms are tie and my options are limited in any way. The hardware support another graphics card (intel) and if I can get it to work it is a plus. If not, it is ok.


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Cant wait until we can get ryzen on this kind of laptops lol 8 cores at 65w 3.0-3.7 Ghz sounds pretty good.


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If you are referring to Intel HD graphics, no I don't think so. Apart from a manual switch like the older Alienware systems had, it cannot work the way the system is constructed. This is a selling point to most enthusiasts. If it had Optimus (which is not supported with SLI) I would never consider the notion of purchasing one. I think I used Intel Graphics (for something other than flashing a bricked MXM card) in normal laptop operations maybe 4 or 5 times for an aggregate of less than 50 hours across all of the Alienware systems I had in all the years I had one with manual switchable graphics. I'd really like to see Intel drop integrated graphics from their i7 K-series desktop chips altogether. It's a waste of silicon and those CPUs might run cooler without that worthless junk on the CPU.

 

See so beautiful iGPU has no place in an enthusiast product.


And look at this castrated BGA Turd chips... iGPU steal about 50% of the actual silicon. You can hardly glimpse the the cores

 

Seems alright. I feel it's a bit lower than expected though(IMO). I think I was getting 4 to 4 1/2 hours on my M18x R2, but that did have a bigger battery.

 

I'd love to have an optimus switch personally, a basic IGP is nice to have.

 

More and faster cores before iGPU Not sure we can get it both ways. But mainstream 6 core Intel chips with iGPU will come. 6 core BGA for laptops is already on paper.

 

Not if it takes up 60% of the CPU space... If it's 5-10% I personally wouldn't mind,,

 

It's not really important how much it takes up really so long as you have enough CPU cores

 

I understand this. But when Intel shrink the chips, the iGPU will use 30-40% of die and this will affect the cooling of the pure cores. With iGPU disabled you still get unnecessary high heat. Would be nice for some of us with more cores and no iGPU

 

The IGP actually increases the effective contact area due to the limited thermal conductivity of the silicon. A quad core no IGP would be silly small.

 

Hence, more cores instead of iGPU

 

Both would be fine however, there is plenty of room silicon wise for it.

 

Yeah, Create 8 core chips without iGPU but with adequate TDT who can be used in laptops. I'm 100% sure 6 core low powered 45w BGA chips with iGPU is already on paper. I mean I have seen it written some place. Make both and satisfy all customers 8 core chips without iGPU with around 100W TDP shouldn't be difficult in bigger 17 inches chassis. Time will tell.

 

I'd like to see a 6 core Ryzen with a decent amount of shaders with an oboard HBM package for an all in one.