D901C / Sager 9260/9262 / Pro-Star 9191 Owners Thread

This is the crash data in the event log by the way.
And it usually happens when i minimize oblivion using alt-tab then go back into it

 

Oblivion is just buggy.. I've jumped into Neverwinter Nights and find that it runs flawlessly. But Oblivion has much better play and graphics.... And runs great at 1600x1200 res.

 

Yes I am. I just played for an hour or so and didn't have any probs. FPS was 30 to 60. I haven't patched Oblivion yet. This is a straight off my original disk load.

We'll have to see how thing's go as I clock more hours.

 

Hmm i might patch, is it worth a try?

 

I don't know, but you are unhappy with the way things are now. Until I run into a problem I'm not going to. Here's a link the the parchn on Gamespot. Take a look at the readme file.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thee...wnload_6168049.html?page=1&tag=result;title;2

 

what is the most stable vista 32 driver? was it 165.01 or 163.44?

 

Well, I got mine yesterday. Praise Sager. Kept all their promises and were very communicative throughout the process.

 

Also have a driver question if anyone's still reading. Sager seems to have a 64-bit Nvidia driver from July 18th. Should I download this? I assumed it would already be on the computer but it doesn't look like it. I'd go to laptopvideo2go, but the whole thing is a bit too confusing to me right now.

 

When I had vista 64, and the 165.01 driver seemed stable enough.

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/vista64

Just unpack it, then click on that little INF link thats right next to the driver number, in the INF column, and download that file, then put that file into the driver folder.
Then just click setup.exe, and reboot and you're set!

 

Great, thanks. I saw the how-to but I honestly wasn't certain what to d/l and was afraid of messing things up. Will d/l that version.

 

Yeh it just takes a bit of trial and error at first, tell me how it goes!

 

Ordered my 9620 on Tuesday. Can't wait for it to arrive. Looks like all the distributors are back ordered on 7950 video boards until the end of September though . Hopefully it doesn't drag into October.

 

I am sorry to have to write this, but I feel I must so that people who take the leap and go this route know what to be prepared for. I had high hopes when my new 9260 laptop arrived yesterday.

I read as much as I could before purchasing and felt good about my choices after all the glowing comments. Unfortunately, the following is my experience upon receiving my laptop.

After purchasing my 9260 from PCTorque, the laptop that showed up LOOKED superficially good... The laptop seemed to run very fast with Windows XP... great, right? NO

It proceeded to hang up about 3-4 times in the middle of use. When I came home today and hit power nothing would appear on the screen. Yes, that's right, that simple, NOTHING. So is it the hard drive, the display, who knows... Gotta wait until 7:30 PST to talk to Sager. I'll try to follow up on this, but I'm sure you'll understand that as excited as I was is as bummed as I am right now, since I REALLY need a laptop, and have a hunk of useless plastic for 3k+.... just be prepared is all I'm saying, caveat emptor...

I hate to rain on this parade/party bc I wanted to be gloating as well about how I saved $500+ on a top of the line laptop... right now I'm WISHING I had simply spent that to have a WORKING laptop... oh well I'll write back

 

Although I am loathe to disagree with you Wu, I must say that I'm currently using the 163.44 driver and it has made it possible for me to play Bioshock. I was using the original Sager 64-bit SLI drivers and I kept crashing to desktop. Since moving to the 163.44 driver - problem solved. And I am definitely running in SLI mode. I ran 3dMark06 just to reassure myself SLI was working.

 

Well after defragging and loading up the new drivers was able to get a 5400 on 3dMark06. Seems to be a pretty standard number, but I believe not out of the ordinary for my setup though I was hoping maybe the extra RAM would push it a bit higher. Will have to try to tweak and do other stuff as I've only defragged+new nVidia drivers so far (though the new drivers did bring me from 5100-->5400 so that's good).

 

Hi all,

Is it coincidence or since the statement of a new revised motherboard for this notebook was published "veteran" users that have bought it simply stopped posting?

I guess some of us were really excited about the possibility of a simple upgrade to Quads only to find that we would need to shell out a lot more ca$h.

I honestly hope that the same thing will not happen with the whatever NVIDIA GTX comes out. That would throw the upgradability feature of this notebook to the trash as far as I'm concerned. Yeah I can upgrade it out of the box, but to what really? At least one graphics card would be good you know

Trance

PS: I know that this post sounded a little cinical but I have my concerns becouse I bought mine in the begining of August thinking I could also upgrade it. By the way I'll get a new unit replacing mine. Still waiting for it so not posting much until then.

 

Well I am not all that surprised, personally. Such is the way of technology, I guess. However, I am curious what upgrading is going to cost. Has anyone heard anything? I mean, will I have to buy an entirely new laptop or can I get the motherboard and whatever else upgraded? Does anyone have a clue?

 

I know that with the GFX boards, you pay whatever the reseller feels like telling you the cost is for each one, plus shipping, etc.

 

"Such is the way of technology, I guess."

Yeah I know. But in this case the out of the box upgradeability of this notebook would never be confirmed (except to Extremes etc). One of the reasons why I believe both the RU and the D901c have high prices amongst other other reasons of course. Technically the MXM-IV capability means nothing if you need to buy a all new motherboard. This would be the same as a desktop having PCI Express slots for Graphic Card but that you would need a new motherboard to upgrade the card.

I'll just wait and see if Clevo will be the company I can fully trust or if I'll use another company next time. Time will tell.

Trance

 

The graphic card is the only thing standing between me and a new D901C notebook.

Fortunately for me, I have been able to wiggle myself out of a situation that would have forced me to buy a notebook by October, but it's still painful...perhaps even MORE painful...now that I'm able to play the never-ending waiting game instead of the high-resolution, smooth running PC games that the 7950 SLI folks happily continue to enjoy

All I'm asking is for is a true high-end DX10 solution (preferably in SLI )...is that too much to ask?

Anyway, with regard to trust in Clevo, I can understand where you're coming from, but I can't help but think that they're between a rock and hard place. Since MXM is a trademark of NVIDIA, I can't imagine that Clevo would have made the claim of having the new MXM type IV without first having secured NVIDIA's go-ahead. This seems to have been confirmed at the bottom of the page located here: http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/7950.html

It's a bit unnerving, however, that nothing absolutely official has come from NVIDIA with regard to MXM-IV, 8800M, or even 8700M GTX. It gives me the impression that they are having major problems working out a high-end DX10 mobile solution that is even reasonably close to the lowliest desktop 8800. In my mind, that opens up the door to a potentially disappointing mobile card or one that's great, but won't work with the current, yet still unofficial, MXM-IV (regardless of what they may have worked out with Clevo a few months ago, who in good faith, built it into their notebooks).

 

Hell with them lagging behind due to manufacture problems.
There's one reason they're not hauling ass to get this card out:
Lack of competition.
What motivation does nVidia as a company have to get out this one card when 90+% of the population is just dandy with the 87, and when their biggest competitor doesn't have anything close to beating what's already out. They're holding it in the stables and going to work on the next project so they can be commended on a quick turn-around if ATI decides to stop sucking wind for a generation. Lets face the market people. Why interrupt a good thing? The 7950 has been the king of the mobile sector for quite some time. Its a stacking game. Soon as ATI puts something on the pile on top of the 7950, nVidia is poised with a counterpoint.

 

G.T.S I understand your view point regarding Clevo. The guys must be as eager as us. Let's just hope that the original d900c motherboard supports the upcoming card.

By the way, I can't play DiRTs on max setting in 1600x1200 In fact I have to lower down to 1280x1014 to play it nicely. I don't know were the bottleneck is.

Trance

 

could just be a poorly coded game....i havent played the game on the PC, but everything looks ok on your end...are you playing the demo or the retail version?

what are your ingame settings?
what are your nvidia control panel settings?

 

My fingers are crossed on behalf of all existing owners with regard to the upcoming card

Just be sure to shed a tear for me...because nevermind DiRT...without a decent rig I can barely play s.H.i.T at it's lowest resolution at the moment

 

PbCustom,

I'll let you know as soon as I get a replacement/repair for my rig.

DiRT doesn't really interest me as a game (I don't have wheel) but the graphics are stunning. Is also somewhat buggy. The most demanding game I've seen. S.T.A.L.K.ER demands are little when compared to this one. For instance, to play it fluidly I needed to disable motion blur, with it on, nice just to have a walk in the park.

Trance
PS: I have the retail version, most probably I'll sell it on ebay to get COD4

 

Ok, has anyone tried the new 163.67's yet? Gaming section forum reports several people to have 5-9 more FPS in Bioshock, with a rig like the 5790. Soon as I get some time, i'll probably try it but that could be in several days. Busy busy.

 

Akilae-

I will try it out today.

Just a very general question here--do you guys turn your computers off at night or just let them go into sleep mode? I've always done the sleep thing but this is the most high-powered computer I've had so I'm not sure what's best.

 

Turn off your computer when you do not use it...

its that simple.

you wont waste energy and wear out the system due to unneeded heat and such.

 

Thanks.

EDIT: I tried out the new drivers on 3DMark06 (this is going from the next most recent drivers) and they bumped me up by about ten measly points so they didn't do anything for me but I'll probably leave it for now. Have BioShock on the 360, sorry.

 

Astrolad- but they DID work in SLI, right?
As in you got scores in the 8-9000's and not the 5000's?

 

Oh, sorry Akilae I only have the one 7950 for now, my other one is coming in a few weeks.

 

Well, just a little update. Im in Scotland with my 9260, and I use her for everything. She's my gaming rig, my television, and even my monitor for my PS2. lol (When do I ever attend class, you ask? >.>)

I've barely gotten a chance to tweak her yet, but I've got the 7950 overclocked to 615/760 right now. Bioshock runs on all max settings at 1920x1200, as well as HL2. I haven't tried Oblivion yet (dont have it) but will download it soon.

And because of the ambient temperature (about 50-60 degrees F) as well as max fans and the Zalman notebook cooler, her temps according to Speedfan are (after a few hours of Bioshock):
HDD: Min 32, Max 39, mean 34
Temp1: Min 29, Max 39, Mean 30
Core 1: Min 19, Max 37, Mean 20
Core 2: Min 22, Max 39, Mean 24

If only I could overclock the processor. lol

 

Greetings!

I'm a new member. Been on the search for a new DTR. I currently have a Dell XPS M140 (yea...i know...lol). But anyways i wanted to get a laptop that can pretty much be my main source of work/entertainment. I'll be playing in the big sand box (Iraq) this winter and need one before i deploy.

I've been reading about the D900C/1C. I will purchase one but im holding out on the motherboard revision that i have read about. My real question is what Reseller should i go with? Ive looked at RJtech.com for the simple fact that i can order it barebones and put it together myself. I have looked at other resellers that were listed on the Clevo guide. All prices fall in about $2900 +/- $100 for the setup that i want.

Would i be better off putting together myself or just have it put together by the reseller. Im not the best but i have built computers before and have a good mechanical/electrical apptitude.

Thanks for your guys' time (and ladies if any, damn political correctness),

nekkitech1

PS: if i sound like a square i apologize, every other word outta my mouth is usually a four letter one. puahaha

 

In general, you would only want to build it yourself for economic reasons (which most of the people that order barebones do)...
- get the barebones first with the main [and proprietary] components first (chassis+motherboard, LCD, videocard module, and optical)
- then find other standard parts [CPU, RAM, HDD} elsewhere for slight cheaper (newegg.com and such)

I built my own notebook, but I am entirely comfortable with the notebook innards and am confident to be able to troubleshoot 90%+ of any issues... so the warranty would not matter too much (unless if its a defective part of the notebook).

I would recommend to get a fully configured notebook to ensure that you will have all the parts and labor of the notebook come from one source... as well as it not being a significant price difference... as compared to building it yourself with barebones.

I highly recommend (for best price and service/support):
- www.powernotebooks.com
- www.xoticpc.com

 

I agree with Gophn that you'll have a good experience with either Powernotebooks or Xoticpc. Before i finally bought my machine, I pestered both of them with lots of questions. Don't hesitat to ask them what they think/recommend.
Considering where you are planning on using it, remember that it's battery life sucks. It's really meant to be used plugged into AC. it generates a fair amount of heat on it's own and maybe more with the extreme chips. I don't know how well it will handle desert temps.
Whatever you get, make sure you get a good surge protector, particularly if you are going to be hooked up to a gennie.

 

Thanks Gophn and phule103 i really appreciate the feedback. Yea, im still unsure of what kinda power source ill be plugged into but im sure it'll be pretty hot haha. Ill hold off a couple more months and see what news/updates Clevo comes out with. Maybe the new 8*00 might be announced or released by then *crossing fingers*.

 

You're welcome. Stay low and shoot straight and quickly.

 

Additionally, most resellers have monies in for basic components. If you leave all CPUs out for example, it looks like there is a cost premium still in the barebones price. Or looking at it from the other direction, adding the lower to mid range CPUs in seem like a pretty good deal pricewise. I think it is because some of the monies for the CPU was already in the barebones pricing. The exception is the really high end stuff, you pay thru the nose for it any way you look at it! But waiting to add a second Video Card does not look cost effective unless you are planning to wait many years and then pull from a well used or broken System

 

I'm guessing with the D901C being able to run the quad cores....they support 1333ghz FSB? So would that mean you could put in any 1333ghz FSB proc? (i.e. E6850)

 

oh yea thanks for the input AlanP. I am also a resident of MI. Holland, MI to be exact lol.

 

Brighton Michigan for me .

Also a 91 Michigan Grad... tough year to be a wolverine.

 

Hopefully somebody has come across this problem and maybe has a solution. I have a new D901C with dual 7950s. I am running Vista Ultimate x64 with the drivers from Clevo's website. When I am running in non-SLI mode [day-to-day work] and I have an external monitor plugged into EITHER the VGA or DVI, I sometimes get a flicker on the external monitor. The only time that the flicker happens is when I right-click on the desktop and only on the external montior. I've used two different monitors in two different locations so it isn't any grounding, etc. I'm thinking it is either a video card problem [heaven help me] or just a driver issue. Has anybody else experienced anything close to the same and/or running any different drivers that might be better? Thanks!!

 

Hello there everybody! I am a newbie here, and a happy owner of a one-week old Dreambook Power D90 SLI.

I stumbled on this thread while looking for an SLI driver update to the stock 94.22. Good on you Wu Jen for starting such a thread, now all the owners have a place to dwell and discuss matters.

I was wondering, are most of you still running on the stock 94.22 forceware driver or the 165.01? I was thinking of doing an update because for me I have a problem that whenever I install new software that relates to any hardware, I will get an NV4_disp BSOD for subsequent reboots. I have to quickly disable SLI when the OS loads up and then only swith SLI back on to cure the problem. Anybody heard of this wierd occurance?

I really do hope they get the new drivers out for our notebooks, particularly ones that support SLI. Well, any information would be great. Again, nice meeting y'all

 

Welcome Miah. I emailed Pioneer Computers to try to get more input on motherboards and quad issues. No response yet... Still hoping for support...

But Australia is one of the areas that the next advances for owners come from [Canada, France Gerrmany and Russia are others]. On that note, please keep an ear open for us regarding overclocking options for the the FSB or CPU. We've drawn a complete blank so far, including those of us with an unlocked CPU multiplier. In these Clevos, it's locked up tight...

And please let us know if you hear any news regarding 8800m mxm-iv cards. I know it's allot to ask... Cheers!

 

Hi AlanP
Yeah sure mate, I am eager to hear news regarding d g80 cards as well, hopefully they will be the same MXM platform, then we all will have an upgrade path to DX10 when the time comes. Meanwhile, I am very impressed with the dual 7950GTXs, partly because I have never had a gaming GPU before. These cards are running my games full 1920x1200 with full settings on with rather fantastic fps, though vsynced to 60 - screen rate.

Its cool that some of you guys have unlocked CPUs, but unfortunate that it isn't configurable. Yeah, the BIOS is has really basic stuff, the plus side of it for me is that I won't accidently mess up a vital setting, haha. Will let you know if there is news for OCing. I know nothing of it, but will inform you guys of news haha.

Btw, thought I'd just let you guys know I've reverted to 94.22 stock drivers, because though the 165.01 does enable SLI, I've found several issues. One particular case was during Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, when I'd turn on the NV goggles the screen would flicker a lot as the brightness adjusts (I've got SM3.0 and HDR on). 94.22 is now working perfectly without problems, hope it stays such for now till an update. Cmon Clevo, give us drivers to pilot our cards! Hehe.

 

Just saying I'm not dead and I actually purvey the forums nearly daily.

I know the NVG's are fixed in Double Agent because I play that with 165.01's just dandy.

 

What! Next time in english please.

 

Hi Akilae Hunter. Haha cool, good for you then, I can't even get Double Agent to work! Textures don't load out right, well actually they don't load at all!

Hi CRFfred. Haha, "purvey".

Oh no! I've encountered the nv4_disp.dll problem again! What could be wrong, have any of you guys experienced this error? Please advice! I am a noobie in these things

 

Guys! I think I have finally managed to isolate the problem. As my research with some googling about the nv4_disp BSOD and reading forums regarding the matter, I have come to learn that the problem could possibly be due to lack of power supply.

Now here is what I have tried. I ran my D90SLI off AC, reboot, turn off completely, boot up, and in between ran nvidia demos as well as games. So far I had NO BSOD.

The moment I switched to battery and booted up my laptop from off mode, BSOD came right after login into WinXP. I think the problem is because I have two cards, and when SLI is enabled, the battery doesn't seem to be able to boot up the laptop properly, thus the nv4_disp. Has anybody else ever encountered this?

WinXP Pro SP2, forceware 94.22, boot up laptop from complete off mode only with battery with SLI enabled. Please do let me know, any of you that can try this, I will greatly appreciate it.

By the way, do you guys run off AC all the time? If yes, do you have you battery removed or is it still in the laptop? The reason why I power the laptop on battery sometimes is to discharge it and not leave it keep on charging while I am using AC. I don't really want to remove the battery, because it would be useful whenever there is a power outage as a backup supply. Is it ok to just run off AC with battery inside? Please advice dear people. Thank you!

 

Um, is this thread dead? Seems like nobody is coming back anymore. Neway, if anyone read this, can you pls answer my previous post and also does anyone know how to use the in-built mic? Many thanks