Clevo P870DM-G Review

Agreed, or give them a shout out @clevo-extreme

 

Overclocked my GPU by 100 MHz for the core and 100 MHz for memory, max temp was 74C during 3DMark11.

This is with all cores set to x42 and a -150mv offset for both the CPU and Cache (Cache ratio left at stock x41)

700 3DMark increase over stock speeds

GeForce GTX 980 (361.91) OC 100-100 [W10]

 

great result
These are my CPU - 42/42/42/42Ghz / GPU SLI - + 135 / 300Mhz

3DMark2011 : http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10941932
3DMarkFireStrike : http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10798226

 

outstanding man!!! great job!

 

The result obtained on defaultowym BIOS in the VBIOS - default vcore GPU / CPU -150
Score with your profile XTU
Temperatures sensational is still a large supply of power

http://www.4shared.com/photo/gnCUX8NXba/Prime_95.html

 

the latest bios 05/01/04 + intel XTU OC CPU_4x43Mhz UV -150 / GPU_+160Mhz/MEM_+120Mhz Default Vcore

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11101525

 

Nice CPU scores, especially for the clock.

 

Did u figure out the temp difference? I have a 980m sli too and my secondary gpu gets as hot as 85c while the primary is 75c are u also seeing this also? By the way, I already took all of the aluminum off since it was blocking the fans temp got a bit better but still high.

 

you might wanna repaste them

 

My case may be different... But I had GPU replaced that was bad. My temps were horrible. After the replacement it was no longer thermal throttling but I still wasn't fully happy about temps.

So I took some advice and bought a cooling pad. I figured it would drop 5c across the board. But it would seem the desk I have my laptop on must be trapping serious heat under it causing a lot of warm air circulation.

I now have the laptop running 980m sli OC at 170/150 and last night gaming my temps peaked at 68/72c on cards. Not only did I drop like 15c the difference between the 2 GPUs in temps is 4c instead of 10c difference like before.

Might be worth testing out!

 

good idea, also some cooling pads like the one I have, Cooler Master NotePal U3 PLUS Laptop Cooler, has adjustable fans so you can position them to fit right under the components you want to cool for more effective cooling.

But that is a solution to drop overall temps. I would first try to fix the difference between the temps as we wanna fix the root of the problem first.

 

I have repasted already. thats not the problem. the problem is with the desing of the laptop. secondary Heatsink is not only smaller but the fan is also smaller... cant belieave they didnt think this would make quite a difference between the GPUS. I am not afraid to say this, my old M18x r2 had superior cooling compared to this one. the cooling from the m18x was more balanced.

I know the cooling pad will help, but i should be able to play heavy games without any Overclocking on the gpus and have temps under 80c and the secondary does get as hot as 85c after 20 minuites of playing bf4 while the first one is 75c max. I think this laptop is focused on the desktop GTX 980 more than the 980m SLI. I wish i knew this.

 

By the way is not my gpu either because i have tried swapping the GPUs and whatever gpu i put on the secondary slot overheats.

 

Then it may be a bad heatsink. Very good possibility. I have seen it just recently!!

 

HIDevolution tech support juts asked me the same thing, they are having a Eurocom Sky X9E system with the same issue, higher temps on the 2nd GPU
I didn't know what to answer other than re-pasting

 

this is really my last possibility, but i highly doubt it. I think is just a cooling desing flaw by clevo.. like i said, i think they focused this system on desktop gtx 980 not really thinking about SLI and the heat it produces. The secondary fan is noticably smaller and so is the heatsink.

 

I wish i had a nother heatsink to reasure you that this is a desing flaw... The cooling pad should be an option not a requirement for stock gpu clocks. 85c on stock clocks on secondary gpus is just unacceptable. going to try to see if i can get a desktop gtx 980 better. from what i hear the cooling desing does really well on the gtx 980

 

My first Clevo P870DM-G as you can see in this review had a 980M SLI then it got stolen so I got the Eurocom Sky X9E but this time I went for a single 980 GTX (Desktop Class FTW) and was much happier, no more worries about SLI profiles or micro stuttering......
now with what you say about the temps, I am happy I went that route.....

 

The thing is.... even if i wait for next generation of gpus... the fact that the secondary gpu did not get any cooling "love" from clevo wont change with this gen or the next one. sucks really..

 

**If i want to run SLI that means **

 

I have had 980 TIs in SLI in my previous Origin PC Millennium Desktop, 780M SLI in my Alienware 18, and 980M in the previous P870DM-G. I've had enough, I will always go for the best single GPU

Unless pascal doesn't offer a desktop class GPU for notebooks, then I will have to suck it up again with SLI M GPUs

 

If you think about it, is kinda bad news for everyone that bought the system thinking on upgrading in the future. U now have gtx 980 but maybe next generation might not have a (desktop card) It might only have for example 1080m gpu and im sure u would want SLI. well the secondary will be 10C hotter no matter what unless you get a cooling pad.

 

I wonder if we can open up some kinda of petition for the factory to look in to this problem. I dont know if anyone here knows someone from Clevo.

 

The slave typically runs hotter as it is doing the heavy stuff. But it shouldn't run with 85 degrees on stock on a Phoenix.
Mine are running with 60 degrees (master) and 70 (slave) while gaming on stock.
During heavy overclocking + benching it changes to 70 vs. 85 degrees. And I have CLU on them!

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my previous 980Ti had a similar issue I think......

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/why-is-my-980ti-gpu-temp-too-high.782795/

 

One gpu is always a little warmer. in my m18x r2 it would be within 4c difference. so one of my gpus would be 74c and secondary 78c thats acceptable. Maybe @Mr. Fox can direct us on who we can send a request to look in to this problem/desing flaw. From reading in the forums, i am not the only one having this issue.

 

This right here! Points to heatsink! I wanted to tell the rest of my story but I'm at work. Anyways my one GPU was bad so in my troubleshooting process I switched gpu places to see if the bad card would still overheat in the primary slot. Which it did.

However the now good card was is the slave slot and ALSO started to overheat. There's no way my one GPU magically started overheating by simply moving it over.

So we replaced the card and the heatsink... And guess what? The good card in the same secondary slot is back to being cool again. And obviously the bad card I moved to primary is a new card.

My bet is on that heatsink. Your primary card is a tad warm but nothing to panic about yet. Let's focus on the slave!

 

When the system is working correctly you won't see 80c on the slave and probably won't see 75c on the primary at stock clocks ran at full tilt.

I posted a review a while back and my cards I think ran a max of 70c for an entire weekend of gaming. Are you sure that you are running the overclock fan profile?

Seems like you have been troubleshooting so it has to be air flow or heatsink.

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In theory and in all my machines with SLI the main card always and should run warmer than the secondary. Their is more load on the main card than the secondary gpu.

 

This is not always true, in many cases physics will off load to the slave and cause it to run warmer. This also depends on how each game is supported and developed.

Its a toss up but in most of my experience the slave is usually warmer in laptops and desktops both. Some of this is due to their cooling construction in laptops.

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If you want to be sure it's the heatsink, you have to use pressure film.

If you can't acquire that use a very thin layer of TIM on the die to see, if you have the proper "footprint" on the heatsink.
I can recommend revoltec thermal grease diamond for that, as it comes with a brush and is not so sticky.

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Thanks Guys, is not the heatsink, I heard from tech support on couple of companies that they are having some comebacks. this is a flaw. I am sure if you live in Alaska and your room temperature is 10f then you probably be okay with the 10c difference between the cards, but for most of us... this is not the case.

 

@Phoenix

I am looking in to getting my video cards swapped for the gtx 980. what are you temperatures after playing a demanding game for about 20-30 minutes? or if you run heaven benchmark for 15 minutes?

also what fan profile are you using? on my 980m sli anything less than maximum or overclock fan profile would be pretty much unplayable due to temps past 92c and card throttling.

 

testing in progress......

please standby

 

@Juang1985

CPU @ 4.4 GHz on all cores, Cache Ratio @ stock 4.1 GHz / GPU Clocks = stock

Liquid Ultra on CPU and IC Diamond on GPU

Room ambient temp = 26C

Idle GPU Temps:




Max GPU Temps during 30 minute Need For Speed (the new one just released) session at max settings with DSR 4X





Heaven Benchmark for 15 minutes:

 

those are good temps. they look like the temps on the primary gpu on my setup.. What fan profile are you using?

 

automatic, during those sessions, I noticed they spin up a little bit but not noisy like when you turn them on full blast. If I turn them on full blast I would probably get lower temps but that's not how I like to use my CPU on a daily basis. I like it to handle these things automatically at an acceptable noise level. So what I just showed you represents a real world usage scenario not just for showcasing a laptop or benchmarking.

Trust me, you will be much happier with your machine with a single 980 GTX, less headaches, no micro stuttering, no temp problems, and an overall smooth experience that works consistently in every game without worrying about SLI profiles.

Yes your benchmarks will be a bit lower, but you will be happier with your machine.

 

THanks man.. I am going to try.

 

If this all seems to be from one company I have to say they aren't doing something right it seems. Below is a pick of my temps from a weekend of gaming. The thread is below where it was originally posted. No I don't live in alaska, and my gaming session was using high that stock 1080p resolution on most games as I use an external 21x9 monitor which demands even more GPU.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/a-weekend-of-gaming-with-the-sky-x9-p870dm-g.788278/

 

are you using any kind of cooling pad? Vsync on? If Vsync is on then ur FPS cap at 75 and will prevent from GPUS working 100% there fore will never reach their max temperatures.

 

hmm, I think I'll repaste my GPU because when I removed the heatsink from my CPU, I noticed what a crappy job EUROCOM did with the paste. So I could probably get lower temps if I repaste it myself

 

This weekend run was without a cooling pad to show real world numbers, with gsync on the games I play they are capped at 75fps on the internal monitor and the external monitor was a 21x9 2560x1080p at 60fps with vsync. The GPUs were not working 100% all the time as they did not need too. If you run the GPUS at 100% constantly you are either asking for too much from the game and the device.

 

and this might be too much to ask, but i would really like to fix this instead of getting the gtx 980. You just gave me a bit of hope can you possibly remove the bottom cover of your laptop and take a picture of the secondary fan and entire back of the sytem and also the bottom cover to see what it looks like??? bottom cover from the underside.

 

Yes give me a few to dig a couple up and I will post to give you a visual.

 

I can assure you the 980m sli route is the clear winner. I was rocking a 200/150 OC on my GPUs last night and during gaming my peak temps were 73/77c. That's very cool for long term gaming with that OC and voltage at 1.12 on cards. It destroyed the numbers my 980 desktop card was putting out.

 

Can you also take the bottom cover off and take pictures? a close up of the secondary fan and the bottom underside cover picture too please?

 

Also can you take a picture of HWINFO64 just like GTVEVO did? maybe if you can run heaven benchmark for 15 minutes (without any thermal pads and vsyn off)

 

*** not thermal pads... i meant to say cooling pads

 

I can do that for you sure. It's been a while since I used HWINFO64 but I think you just load it up then screen shot it after. When I get home from lunch I'll get you the information. My laptop looks identical to @GTVEVO as he helped me modified the cover. Would you still like to see that as well?

 

Yes , Specially the modification. I Just removed every single one of those aluminum and plastic shield on mine