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    *** Clevo P750TM-R Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. atquantrandash93

    atquantrandash93 Notebook Consultant

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    That is on the LPC site if I remember correctly, the P750TM-G1/2/3. The difference in naming and pricing lies in the screen, the CPU, and the GPU. However, if you select the G3 variant and choose all the G1 option, the price is that of G1.

    For 8700K option, you can contact the vendor and let them know. They'll instruct you on how to leave a note so that you can get 8700K with 2080. Donald@HID confirmed this via email with me. I imagine LPC would be doing something similar.

    Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk
     
  2. The Underdog

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    That's fair, I just thought it was an entertaining quirk given that the configurators are almost all identically structured AND vendors are obviously offering options on request. I picture a Clevo how-to-layout-options style guide.

    To be honest, just value in options. They achieve similar performance in different ways that I thought would have been of value. Maybe not appealing to the market? Or just the option of charging more for the 9700k by default.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    true, one of the most appealing factors for LGA clevo machines are their vast range of hardware options. if you dont mind tinkering a bit, then the cheapest way to get a high specced system would be to buy a barebone and organize the individual components via aftermarket purchase :)
    and yes, depending on the software either the 8700k takes the lead with 4 more threads or the 9700k with its additional 2 physical cores.

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
  4. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Some tasks will run better with 12 threads. Clevo have 8 and 9th gen as specs on their website.
     
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  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The 8 cores will be a bit more universal and the silicon will clock a bit better usually.
     
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    Is the p750tm's thunderbolt3 port 4lane?
    Thanks!
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes 4x lane.
     
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    This might be the wrong thread (is this dedicated to RTX models?), but I just got my P750TM1-G from HIDEvolution and can't wait to start using it. After ten years with the same Dell, I can't even really fathom what the difference will feel like.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    What gpu did you have?
     
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    In my old Dell, just integrated graphics, but a GTX 1060 in the new Clevo.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Like stepping out of the cave into the light lol.
     
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    This is so cool. Hard to believe the 9900K can run on a Z170 chipset with a modified bios?

    I am looking in to a 9900KS for my P750TM1G. What kind of TDP do you think the Z370 15” version can handle? Considering these 9900KS processors are better binned, it seems like the best option in a laptop with the least amount of voltage.
     
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    It's not that hard to believe when it's the same socket and connectivity. It is just more cores with the only real concern being power.
     
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    so i ended up with 4.6 ghz all cores and a limit of about 125W continuous load before my VRMs start giving out on me.

    as for the TM machines, if i remember correctly, i read in their service manual that they're able to do around 145W sustained. peak wattage should be higher though, when talking short benches like CB15. so with 150W being my peak, i could imagine a TM doing 175W before it starts crapping out on you. should be good for anywhere around 4.7-4.9 ghz everyday clocks and maybe around 5.0-5.2 ghz benching clocks with a binned 9900KS :)

    this all being an educated guess, of course. YMMV.

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Gamers nexus review again for this one, you can see the power and difference between your typical samples. Mileage can still vary.

     
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    I am so satisfied with my daily reliable 5Ghz overclock on my 8086K.Hard to believe this is even possible in a laptop.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    With you on that, it's a good balance for gaming.
     
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    And it also helps with overclocking OCD, being a nice even number :)
     
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  19. Meaker@Sager

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    OC OCD? :p
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Well, if I get to 4.9Ghz I will do whatever it takes to get 5Ghz. Perhaps just me :p
     
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    Getting 29999 for a benchmark score is worse for me lol.
     
  22. tps3443

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    Got some LM konductonaut on the way, Some super shiny shimmy shims, Kapton tape, thermal grizzly Kryonaut, and even 1” tall rubber stick on laptop feet for my P750TM1

    I am going LM all the way! I’ve got to get this GTX1080 under control. It literally runs hotter than my CPU 99% of the time.

    I can’t wait to get to working on it. I’m gonna tape around the cpu, and coat the top of the lid with LM. And I’ll tape around the GPU as well. Then I will buff the copper heatsink contact area for a nice mirror finish. I will try to seal any air leaks in the heatsink fin area too with some aluminum tape I’ve already got
     
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  23. Meaker@Sager

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    That 1080 also consumes a lot more power than the CPU.
     
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    Consumes around 195 Max watts based on HWinfo.

    Once I apply LM, I will increase TDP.

    GTX1080 is one of the best GPU’s ever. I bought one back in may of 2016 for my desktop.

    And after over 3.5 years performance is still top tier.
     
  25. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    For smaller chassis with unified heatsinks I can see the benefit of a 2080 with a lower TDP, making temps more manageable.
    But with the 3xxx series around the corner, I'd hold out.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    You can use the unified heatsink to your advantage for gaming performance. Turn the CPU down 200-300mhz and undervolt it accordingly. Then give the gpu as much juice as possible.
     
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    I should’ve bought one of these laptops years ago.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    This is how it begins. I started out with a P775TM1-G, w/ 8086k and GTX1080, And after a couple months of tuning I ended up buying the P870TM1-G :D
     
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    tps3443 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The Laptop I bought on ebay was owned by a enthusiast. I messaged him back and forward quite a bit asking questions.

    He purchased a P775TMR, and sold me the P750TM1-G. He also took some storage and memory out of mine leaving the main dimms empty and only a 512gb m.2 and memory dimms populated under the keyboard.



    Best system I’ve ever owned though.

    it works for now but, I need to get some faster memory and a faster/larger ssd
     
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    Did you try tuning the memory you have?
     
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    No, it doesn’t seem to like overclocking. it is Lenovo branded OEM DDR4 ram. I messed with it a little more. With pretty relaxed timings I couldn’t get 2800 at all with 1.35v.

    When he sold it, he removed his good stuff I suppose.
     
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    No need to go too crazy with the clocks past that, 3000-3200mhz tends to be the highest regular clocks that most people are on and you get most of the potential performance there.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    A pair of RipJaws 3200 cl 18 are ~110$ while cl 16 are 207$ in Scandinavia.
    And 4000 sticks are 285$ atm.

    The 3200 cl18 can be tightened to cl15 with a bit more voltage, so as Meaker pointed out, this is price/perf sweetspot.
     
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    how about them ripjaws 3800? are actually on par / tiny bit more ocable than the 4000 corsair sticks and actually cheaper (usually)

    admittedly, anything above 3200 doesnt really make sense tbh. thats why im thinking about going with 2x32 gb sticks at 3200 mhz instead of 4x8 gb 3800....

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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I haven't tested the 3800 kit, so only spoke about the ones I've had. I run the 4000 sticks @ cl14 3333mhz.
    Reason I prefer 4x8 is that single rank has an easier time training and overclocking compared to my dual rank RipJaws.
     
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    Especially as you start to push the speeds.
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Yup, it was really exciting to get 3600Mhz to run. But it becomes a balancing act trying to get timings decent enough to beat tuned 3333Mhz settings.
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Certainly in most applications which do care more about overall timings rather than raw bandwidth past that point.
     
  39. jc_denton

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    In synthetics such as FS/TS it was very hard for 3600Mhz to beat 3333Mhz CL14. Perhaps some games might benefit more.
     
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    Did you ever test this?
     
  41. jc_denton

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    Yes, I mentioned it in the OC thread. I got a few runs to pass FS/TS from what I remember. They either scored worse or matched the score, that was with run to run variance as well.
     
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    Oh, no I meant in gaming. Did you test gaming?
     
  43. jc_denton

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    Nope, I was trying to get the 3600Mhz to be stable at that point. But there are probably many videos showcasing the impact of ram speed in game x.
     
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    I might test 3600Mhz once more when I get my hands on a different chip. Perhaps instability was due to a failing chip.
     
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    What are your plans this time around with a new 9900 (k? kf? ks?) for your 870TM? Are you going to lap it to use with the BartX again or go in another direction?
     
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    Unlikely with a physical failure, could just be a weaker imc compared to the top chips.
     
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    Sadly most 9900K's that are out and about are R0 revision, these take quite the performance hit due to security patches that cannot be toggled off. (Specre/Meltdown) Same goes for the KS.
    Initially I was looking for a used P0 9900K/KF, but these proved hard to find in Denmark. Heck, even KS is sold out everywhere here. I kept an eye on the KF, since they were still well stocked. However, they began quickly selling out everywhere this week for whatever reason.

    So, I ordered a KF. Now I'm just waiting to see whether I get the P0 revision. I plan on delidding it and using the BartX IHS. Since it will be taller than the lapped chip I'll also need to replace the VRM thermal pads and do a few other mods to ensure that nothing funky goes on this time around.
     
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    I have never seen a 9900K with however a terrible IMC, not being capable of running 3600Mhz. Trace limits and quality make more sense, but seeing as the chip acted quite weird before it died I question if 3600Mhz was that unstable.
     
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    Still cant compare it to desktop motherboards due to the noisier sockets and crowded tracing. The better imc will help deal with the noise.
     
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    I guess, It'll be a couple weeks of ram testing again when it's up and running.
     
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