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    Official Coffee Lake Refresh Thread/BIOS for ALL Clevo Laptops - RTX CARDS NOW SUPPORTED

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. dsanke

    dsanke Notebook Consultant

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    I can confiem the BIOS for N95xKP & N95xTP ver 1.07.08/1.07.09 can not support 9900K. 9600K and 9700K are working fine . Waiting for Clevo release new version.

    Edit: New Version 1.07.10 Updated. I already sent to @DaMafiaGamer .

    Edit again: Seems the 1.07.10 can not support 9900K too.
     
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  2. joluke

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    Anyone with a P775DM3-G that has a 9900k? How does it behave? Temps wise how is it?

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  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    depends on thermal paste, thermal pads, ambient temperature, type of load, cleanliness of surroundings / dust buildup inside machine, heatsink contact and, of course, silicon binning and user settings :) sooooooo... results can vary quite greatly :D
     
  4. joluke

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    I know that... And that's a vague answer. Just wanna know if anyone tested it and how the laptop handles the temperatures not the crappy reply I got above... Else I wouldn't ask in the first place

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  5. Pagis

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    I would love to know that too. I have a p775 with 6700k. I'm planing to replace all the thermal pads and re-paste everything with liquid metal from grizzly. If it would run stable at at least 4.2 ghz that would be more than enough for me.
     
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    can't speak for P775 but you could test if your current cooling can handle a sustained 90W load.

    I was able to run 4.0ghz easily from day 1 at a similar 90-95W power draw as 4.6 on a 6700k, and the 9900k ran a bit cooler, even though my 6700k was delidded with liquid metal, probably because the heat is more spread out over the die area

    From there, undervolting should get you to 4.2 at least.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    what are your current settings for the 9900k? still at 4,0 ghz? i figure with a highly binned chip one could aim for 4.5-4.6 hz at 125W sustained load :)
     
  8. bennyg

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    Currently 4.7 with -60mV, I tried avx -2 but all it seems to do is drop clocks and doesn't save much power or temps. I've been meaning to set it back to 0 but have been busy doing work stuff the past couple weeks. Other than the odd bit of encoding nothing uses it to 100%

    This setup currently uses 125W during cinebench r15 (for about 1940 pts and that was non optimised, with a bunch of crap in the background) - maybe a few more when it gets properly hot on a longer load
     
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    That’s what I’ve said many times about AVX Offset, but @jaybee83 doesn't believe me. :p
     
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  10. Rahego

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    [​IMG]
    Mod worked without use of SkyPRO (but i had it just in case) for P870KM1-G. Also flashed EC for P870TM to use ControlCenter 2.0 (which sucks same way as regular clevo software). I would not recommend i9 9900k with HT for P775xx or regular heat sync P870xx. This is score that i achieved with over -130 uV and over 130W (4.7 ghz on all cores). CPU repasted with Grizzly Krynoaut at full fan speed. For me hitting anything above 90C is way too hot, even if it's CPU - so i will probably use it 4.5 GHZ for daily tasks.

    Overall mod is great - thank you @dsanke . Just be prepared to loose G-SYNC with this BIOS (screen ID LGD046E ). I tried different stuff to make it work but it seems that it is not possible with this BIOS - too bad.

    If you have any questions - feel free to ask.
     
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    radolf Notebook Guru

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    Hello,
    you only need the TL866II Plus, the Pomona clip (cable) and the ICSP cables. All other adapters in the shown link are not necessary!
    I think the ICSP adapter is always sent with the programming device! In case of doubt, ask the seller! To program the GD25B64C(P870xMx BIOS-Chip), this adapter is necessary.
     
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  13. joluke

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    Thanks my friend :)

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    The EC-Chip is a GD25D10B! You can flash this chip again without ICSP interface! Over 40Pin socket of the TL866II Plus. But always take a close look at the soldered chip on the real motherboard, so that the TL866II Plus can assign the chip correctly! :)
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    hey thats not true! its not about belief or faith, its about checking facts and adjusting accordingly :p what can i say, im just skeptical like that, its in my scientist nature haha ;)
     
  16. Tryner

    Tryner Notebook Consultant

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    The bios work with 9900k in p775dm3 but the laptop no start with 64Go ram i have a big problem because i have 2 stick of ram useless
    Thanks you
     

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  17. Pagis

    Pagis Notebook Enthusiast

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    So it max out is 32gb? Have you tried 48gb?
     
  18. Tryner

    Tryner Notebook Consultant

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    Yes i have 32Go and i tried 48Go is ok but no dual Channel beaucause 3 sticks
     
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    I see, I have 2x 16gb stick and 2x 8 sticks, so I wounder if it will work. Also, did you use just a usb method or did you had to use progamer?
     
  20. Tryner

    Tryner Notebook Consultant

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    Programme tl866ii plus
     
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    What with Dual Channel "flex" mode, meaning that 2 modules will run as dual channel and the remaining one in single channel? Of course if the MB support it.
     
  22. Tryner

    Tryner Notebook Consultant

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    Normaly is only in single Channel with 3 stick
     
  23. Tryner

    Tryner Notebook Consultant

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    And i dont have xmp in memory settings
     
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    Not for many years, the memory controller/OS will stack the ram so the first two sticks are interleaved and then the final one is stacked on top as single channel to be used last. It's quite clever really.
     
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    Thank you but i dont have xmp mode memory and i have 32Go useless
     

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    How did you know it was running in single channel?
     
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    because cpu z does not recognize the references of the 2nd stick
     
  28. MrClippy

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    Many thanks to @dsanke . Not only does the 9900K work with a P870DM3, it's able to give some impressive performance despite only 3 heat pipes on the default cooler. Bare in mind that I have 'only overclocked to 4.6 Ghz all cores, undervolted -95mV and kept the max TDP at 135W all in the name of thermals. I am perhaps missing out on a theoretical 10%-15% compared to others who OC-ed to 5.0GHz all core, but I'm going to be running 3D rendering and compiling on a daily basis and would prefer a longer life over high performance benchmark runs. At the very least, I think I can hit stock scores with a little raise in max TDP, which I feel is impressive in a laptop going 2+ years old now.

    So far, I haven't had any problems with ethernet and audio. Also still have G-Sync.

    Again, many thanks to @dsanke for the BIOS and @DaMafiaGamer for the guide.

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    can any1 elaborate what set a and set b memory in bios are? and with 8350k on 65w should I just disable turbo speed step and c states?
     
  30. Stev Master

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    Keep doing mod´s @dsanke . Awesome work!. Hope it´s possible to use the next gen nvidia Mobile RTX with new mod´s.
    Settings:
    CPU: Cpu clock rate Stock -100mv
    GPU: Gpu Clock 1800 Memory 5400MHz Boost 1990MHz
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    I don´t know why but when the cpu is on full load it runs only with 4,5ghz
     
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  31. Rahego

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    @MrClippy could you share your screen display model?

    I wondering why some machines (mostly DM3) keeps g-sync with this mode, and some do not(KMx) . Is it connected to screen model or something else?

    Mode is awesome, but if it could work with g-sync, than it would be perfect. It's hard to go back to screen tearing in games after playing while with g-sync
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    Screen model does need to match the shipping white list yes.
     
  33. clevo-extreme

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    Uhd 4k is fully compatible with gsync and mod bios.

    Fastest Customizable Gaming Notebooks & Mobile Workstations | CLEVO System Integrator
     
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    I believe it was the B173QTN01.4, which came with the P870dm2/P870dm3 when they initially launched with 120hz 1440p displays.

    Also wanted to add that @dsanke 's BIOS has waaaay more options compared to the original stock BIOS.

    Also the headphone jack somehow switched places so the old jack closest to the front now is S/PDIF and all are using Microsoft audio.
     
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    I'd check your Turbo boost TDP or Power max.
     
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    I´ve set Power Limit 1 to 150000 and Power Limit 2 to 151000
     
  37. bennyg

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    B173QTN01.0 on DM3 launch - note it has the banding issue which B173QTN01.4 revision supposedly fixes (look up images/YouTube)

    Expand the hwinfo section with all the CPU/platform throttle flags. It's probably iccmax or cache iccmax which is tricky to isolate due to complex throttle flag names but both can be to tested on the fly in Throttlestop to see if raising them helps
     
  38. Rahego

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    Ok - so there are 3x choices -

    First -
    17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology( B173QTN01.0) - mentioned by @bennyg

    Second -
    17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Display ( B173QTN01.4) - mentioned by @MrClippy

    Third -
    17.3" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) AUO LED Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - mentioned by @clevo-extreme

    Fourth -
    17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~9ms IPS-level 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology (B173HAN03.1)

    Best option for gaming orientated user would be Fourth option - which have G-sync and 144hz. Could anyone confirm that it works with mod? I believe all of em should work fine since they're options for P870TM1 model (which is mod adapted).

    Reason why P870KM1-G is loosing G-sync is coz screen 75 hz LG LGD046E ( LP173WF4 SPF1) is not supported further in P870TM model.(and probably will never be since why someone would use 75hz FHD screen instead of superior 120hz QHD one).

    PS. It's worthy to mention that First and Second option is TN panel (worse viewing angles and possible banding).
     
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  39. Meaker@Sager

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    Only screens that the machine shipped with g-sync enabled will keep g-sync. A newer panel will work but not have g-sync.
     
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    Can you explain this a bit further?

    Afaik to be able to use g-sync there must be:
    Ngreedia G-sync supporting GPU
    Ngreedia G-sync supporting Screen
    Correct bios that is supporting Screen and GPU.

    This bios is not supporting screen that i currently have in laptop. But if i would switch it to the supported one (by bios and with g-sync itself) - g-sync should be back. Or am i getting it wrong?
     
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    A panel needs to be whitelisted in the BIOS of the laptop to enable GSync. If it isn't listed, the driver will not enable the feature. Another pointless limiter on NVIDIA's part.
     
  42. bennyg

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    Pointless except for their profit. They charge a lot from OEMs to certify, just like they charge a lot for the physical chip that goes into desktop gsync monitors.

    Management has a duty to maximise shareholder returns... no such duty to provide value for money to customers
     
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    The official line is if it's going to have their name on it then they want it tested and certified before release.
     
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    The point being is that a panel can be certified as GSync compatible, yet if the OEM doesn't include it on their whitelist, it will not work.
     
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    Each set of equipment is verified.
     
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    So i decided to go for new screen - 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz~9ms IPS-level 72% NTSC Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology (B173HAN03.1)

    Probably will grap one from aliexpress. There is one thing. I can't find anywhere what kind of eDP connector is on motherboard (30 pin or 40 pin) Z270.

    According to eurocom - - 17.3-inch 60Hz;FHD IPS 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare); 300nts; 700:1; 72% NTSC; eDP 30pin; P/N LP173WF4 SPD1 - my screen is using 30 pin connector cable. Does it mean that motherboard have only 30 pin socket?

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/B173...108.1000016.1.25a9a6d85y8BTC&isOrigTitle=true
     
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    Port can do either. Separate cables for 30pin/2 lane and 40pin/4 lane panels. Check service manual (find on premamod.com) for part numbers. If its the same as the DM/DM3 the 40 pin cable ends in a L

    (I'd find it for you but my lappy is in bits right now while sizing up a custom CPU heatsink and doing anything on my phone is painful)
     
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    Yes the motherboard supports up to 40 pins as above with 30 pins using a different cable.
     
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    Looks like the missing pins on Z170/Z270 have no effect on performance or stability :)

     
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