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    Official Coffee Lake Refresh Thread/BIOS for ALL Clevo Laptops - RTX CARDS NOW SUPPORTED

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. joluke

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    Like I said and please don't insist. Don't cross flash EC's from other models. Stick to KM EC.

    Did you try and reflash the BIOS with a spi programmer? To see if it was a bad flash?
     
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    If you dont have RTX card - u shouldnt use RTX BIOS. I know that it's on way but still. Using wrong GPU may cause problems.

    About audio. Try to reinstal drivers - and if it wont help - go with regular microsoft one(autoupdate in device manager) . Afaik they work fine and fix jack issue.

    Cant say anything about undervolt in BIOS. I prefer using TS. Mby try that one? :) It's more handy and give u option for different uV/OC profiles.
     
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  3. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes but a laptop is a complete product and people have expectations. Someone would enable it and when something does not work they would look to return it regardless of if they were sold it.
     
  4. snowy88

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    I did not reflash the EC, left my native KM 1.05.02
    I did not try to flash using the programmer as I do not have one, until I rolled back to the previous version of BIOS (1.05.11), everything works fine with it
    Thank! I'll try your advice when I get my RTX card, while I sit down on the previous version of BIOS
     
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    kfxsti Notebook Evangelist

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    But, we paid for a product that has a specific feature. Even the upgrade has said specific feature. So both products have said specific features that were once validated and tested by said company. So therefore withholding said features that were paid for seems a bit of a legality issue VS it being laptop/desktop compliance.
    My expectation was knowing that my laptop panel/Mobo/GPU have all been validated and or tested by the company that sells the feature should work based off the "terms" of G-Sync Capability.
    It was all tested and validated once- it should NOT have to be be done again. If that's the case all 10 series owners would have lost Gsync by switching to 20 series on desktops with pre 20 series Gsync monitors
     
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    HWiNFO 6.08 released, with support for fan speed monitoring for KMs cross flashed with TM BIOS (9900K anyone?) - with slightly reworked calculation formula, to avoid fake/wrong readings.
    Enjoy.
     
  7. snowy88

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    You flashed your KM with stock BIOS from TM (from the Clevo repository)?
    Or something modified?
     
  8. DaMafiaGamer

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    You paid for a certified g-sync combination which no longer applies.
     
  10. kfxsti

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    Well legally I should be able to request a refund for the license which was broke via Nvidia's own terms ? Like @Mr. Fox said, desktop owners get to use that license with whatever monitor they wish now. Looking at from reading the Eula, they actually are using it against it's terms and own conditions. Lol

    And from what I am finding out, it's Clevo who didn't apply what was needed. Nvidia still has all three elements certified. Clevo didn't want to pay for the license to be placed on the new gpus. Kinda a force off a platform approach to those wanting to stay in the upgrade loop. For you to get all the cool features now, you have to change over to whats "compatible". Lol I am so glad others get to decide how I plan my upgrade paths. Clevo, I want my Gsync refund lol.
     
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  11. joluke

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    Good old nVidia
     
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    Your license is still intact for the combo you purchased.
     
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    Then they should state when buying a laptop that Gysnc is a bundled hardware/software purchase. No where in anything I have read and or signed told me that prior to my purchase of the laptop. My bundle of Gsync approved Screen, Mobo and GPUS (My 1080s and 2080s) by law - should have remaind intact aslong as all three are and were originally "validated" and or "approved"
    Which as it stands right now, AGAIN.. They are side stepping their own current EULA by allowing other panels to be used. Lol . I see your side of it as you are tied in as a business aspect. BUT, because Your company nor any others list a disclaimer that state breaking the purchased combo will destroy your Gsync license- My point remains - I paid for a service/product with no information being presented that upgrading to an approved/validated component having the same service/product/feature breaks said service/product/feature. I want my Gsync license refunded and or fixed Nvidia and Or Clevo. Lol
     
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    Unfortunately, the GSync system requires the combo to be whitelisted in BIOS in order to work. This is one reason why I will be extremely interested in future purchases to consider AMD Navi systems when available.
     
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    That still deters the fact of either back tracking or straight up lying to consumers. Whichever way they want to eat it. Lol
     
  16. joluke

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    I wouldn't worry about it much if i were you, they have done this (nvidia of course) ever since i can remember. They won't change because they are a monopoly. Hopefully 2020 will be the year AMD turns tables and starts doing their job correctly! and of course, will shup up nvidia once and for all
     
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    Today I received my programmer, but I have no clue how to flash my vBIOS with it. Like I would like to know where my vBIOS is located, is it on the NVIDIA chip itself or somewhere on the motherboard?
     
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    vBios is in the gpu.
     
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    On the GPU I only see one chip that has 8 pins. Can I flash this with flashrom or do I need a different program to flash GPU's?
     
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    You'll have to wait for someone else to help ya. I'm not the best person to help with flashing with a programmer since I'm not that experienced :)
     
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  21. Rahego

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    Check this out.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...and-off-instantly.829367/page-2#post-10924734

    I asume that you flashed wrong vbios and accidentally bricked your machine as his friend did, and now you want to flash correct one. Look through this topic, it might help.
     
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    Thank you all for the replies! My vBIOS is working again!
     
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    Guys,
    I have tired to switch my panel in the 870km1(tm1) to 144hz AUO 3.1, however there was some interference during usage, like in old time on the analoge tv-s :) Sometimes vertical dots or lines appeared. I have tired with 1440p 120hz AUO 1.0 and Chi-Mei 120hz, both are fine. What could be the problem? New cable is need for 144hz? Thx
     
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    If other panels for 40 pin cable works well than most probably it is broken LCD :/
     
  25. matyee

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    I try to test is on sokebody’s machine but both 40pin panel work well... it was brand new bought from ebay
     
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    Brand new from eBay... Something smells phishy in that sentence..

     
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    Yeah maybe... it was in listed as replaced to 4k. Seemed new the seller is doing it in pretty big scale..
     
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    See if they have a return policy and if they do, open a case on PayPal to restrain the money until you get a replacement in your hands. In PayPal AFAIK you have 180 days to open a case and restrict the person from seeing any money until you get it sorted. Good luck buddy
     
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    So it cannot be a cable issue or sthing else?
     
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    You can always try a different cable and see if it works
     
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    I cannot disassemble the whole machnine unfortunatly... the screen bazel was easy...
     
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    Well i understand your fear but there is good guide on forum how to do it. i've done it myself 3-4 times already. Last time it took only 40 mins to get it apart and back. So i think you should give it a try. As long as u wont miss any screw it is fairly easy task.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...p870dm-g-from-fhd-to-4k-picture-guide.787821/

    Still i think it's problem with LCD - not cable.
     
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    @dsanke @DaMafiaGamer apart from the ME that i see was updated in the latest release, what was updated in the P775TM (P775DM3 compatible BIOS) RTX BIOS? Just curious if it is worth to flash the new update or stay in the old one ? thanks
     
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    I turned out the lcd was broken... with other 144hz panels (3.2 and 4.0) it was working perfectly.

    Fun fact, that my km1 machine did not have gsync, although the barebone was km1-g. When I flashed the vbios on my 1080, I tried with gsync vbios, but nvflash was complaining it is not a gsync card. OK, I have flashed with non gsync bios. Yesterday we were testing the screen with an expert, he said, let us flash the gsync vbios in the card, from electronical point of view it should be the same, if we soft brick it, we reflash the original and that's it. And voila, the gsync came back :)
     
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    Bro I would say this is one of the easiest laptops I’ve come across when disassembling, the hardest to disassemble are Samsung laptops, they are a nightmare as most housing components are made out of aluminium which is clipped or glued into place you end up warping it and permanently damaging it in the process.

    Edit: only downside I see is that the hinges only have 1 screw that holds each down! Clevo that is not how it’s meant to be done lol, we don’t want another Lenovo ideapad hinge epidemic :D
     
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    Please read my post above:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10926412
     
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    Fan tables, fan spin up more aggressively and power limits have been adjusted for the 9900k...
     
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    Thanks my friend :)
     
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    more info: we lapped the km1-g heatsink, then polished the cpu's IHS (delided with TGC) also TGC-ed on the top. On 4,5Ghz on minimal fan curve (literally I could not feel spinning at all, I had to check if there were working) the temps remained under 70C during XTU test....
     
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    What were the ambient temps, CPU model/clocks?
     
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    4,5Ghz (8086k), ambient 26C at least (its freaking hot here).
     
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    Not too bad, a good sample can undervolt a lot at that level, what was your load voltage?
     
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    i9-9900KF works. woot
    https://valid.x86.fr/shql7n

    Flash worked great. (coming from Prema's Bios) Didn't unplug anything, Only pulled the CMOS. Booted right up, B****ed about missing the Boot drive. Just popped in the usb stick with a copy of windows 10. And magically it fixed its self. Raid array still good (not a boot drive) Lost G-sync of course on the 3k 120hz panel. but didn't really use it anyway. tested first with the i7-7700k. all good so put the tape on the 2 pins from the i9-9900k picture, Put some TGC and its working. Still need to play with proper undervolting. and over clocking, just tossed a -80 adaptive and 4.7 on all cores to test. It's not throttling so that is really neat. Planing on ordering the TM cpu heatsink and doing the case mod to get that little extra bump in cooling, it already has a 3 pipe on the cpu, but that TM has a little extra radiator. Obsidian software still works as normal. (Windows had to reinitialize the GPUs. but did that on its own.) rebooted and went in game. Seems solid. Ill update if that changes. Happy so far :)

    Anyway I figured i would post my preliminary results. Incase anyone was wondering if it would work. Seems find so far.
     
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    I need to check, I do not know by heart, but it is a very good chip 5ghz@1,2V in desktop.

    I tested with AUO....3.1 Gsync panel, and gsync worked! I though the 3k panel would work with gsync, but based on your experiences it will go away? :(
     
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    I have already tested the 9900KF with KM1, but I did not like to temps. 4,5Ghz resulted me high 80s under stress. The good temps what I could reach it was on 4,3Ghz. However it is too much underclock for the price so I switch to 8086k.
     
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    Also check the heatsink of the KM1, many of them bended. If it is flatten properly, there is not too much advance of having TM1. Delidding 9900k could bring you additional temps, however it is a little risky... Pls post some stress result how it looks like on 4,5ghz!
     
  47. DaMafiaGamer

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    Try and see if you can get -150mv undervolt at stock like me ;), you’ll have amazing temps and might not need the new heatsink.
     
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    Hi, sorry to barge in here just like that. This is a very long thread, so please forgive me that I haven't read any post.
    I want my P870DM which is currently equipped with a i7 6700(non-k) to support the 8700k, which I already own. Will this firmware allow me to do that? And as far as I know (since the pictures are gone from the first post), all I have to do is short two pins on the CPU with either a pencil or electrically conductive paint (which is what I'm going to do), right?
    Sorry if this question has been asked a thousand times. For now, all I can offer for the help is my everlasting gratitute.
     
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    Yep, this firmware will support your 8700k. On your P870DM-G, it will support 6 through 9 series chips.

    I'm running an 8086k myself on my personal P870DM-G in the sig. @4.5ghz on all cores w/ a -150uv, it is ridiculously quiet when using and passes all my stability criteria in my sig with temps topping in the 80's for the more rigorous ones (RB 2.56 w/ AVX for example).
     
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    Sounds great! My 6700 runs pretty "hot" (75°max, but the fan liks to rev up quickly) as is, but I haven't undervolted or delidded it yet.
    Are these the pins that need to be isolated? https://i.imgur.com/yzOW1Xh.jpg
    First post says they don't need to be shorted anymore, so simply stick some kapton tape to it, install the CPU and I'm good to go?

    Edit: Nevermind, I downloaded the folder and read the instructions there. I have to isolate two entirely different pins.
     
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