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    Official Coffee Lake Refresh Thread/BIOS for ALL Clevo Laptops - RTX CARDS NOW SUPPORTED

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. DaMafiaGamer

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    Modified instructions have been added and the new RTX bioses have been added :D Enjoy!
     
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    You guys are awesome :D

    Thanks for this opportunity! My 8700k is running great ever since i flashed the BIOS on my P775DM3-G :D
     
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    Community at its work, loving it :cool:
     
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    guys,
    anyone uses 9900k in km1/tm1? What clock can you cool it down? I have tried stocks but I could not manage... 4,4-4,3 seems doable for my tempwise taste... thx
     
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    Did you verify the hard power off after flash works on the DM too?

    If this universally eliminates the Black Screen of Death (BlSOD lol), that would be a plus. I've already had to manually flash a few DMs and a KM for myself and gamer buddies.
     
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    that aint right....have u undervolted it?
     
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    Yeah that isn’t right. Is your heatsink lapped or not?
     
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    I think yes, the heatsink is properly on, but I double check. And it is a very good 9900kf chip which runs 1,2V@5Ghz in a desktop....
    Yes, I have undervolted, on 4,5ghz on max fan it reaches almost 90C. @4,3 I could keep under 70ish on max fan. On stock it reaches 90+ quickly...
     
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    Lapped means to flaten it? (as many HS are bended?
     
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    I think you shouldn't flash TM EC that was posted earlier (few weeks ago?), about that newest from yesterday (inside updated zip from OP) I don't know.
    Because:
    I know I'm not flashing it, maybe updated one is better and recommended (or even needed for RTX support) but I will leave stock KM EC for now and wait for some more info about it, maybe from @dsanke.
     
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    It should be noted, that step #0 and #8 is only needed when coming from other BIOSes (be it stock, Prema, whatever). When you are already on dsanke mod, than USB EFI flash works normally, without taking battery out and hard shutting off. You can flash back and forth dsanke mod versions (upgrade/downgrade), then greset them, no black screens. That how it is with my KM1-G, YMMW.

    About vBIOS, before BIOS flash I updated my 1080 not with one provided in the OP package but used the newest version, stock, not modded whatsoever, TM vBIOS provided by @Prema here http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-an-8700k-and-gtx-1080-upgrade.814711/page-95
    As it's the newest one aimed for TM, it have newest GOP too and gives full compatibility with @dsanke mod. Again, YMMV.
     
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    In few coming days I will be swapping 7700K for 9900K in KM1-G and report my findings.
     
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    Nope, DM is on PremaMod and stays like that. It's still rocking hard with 6700K/980 :D
    I think that unplug method works for all range of P870 models, given the (now known) nature of this black screen issues.
     
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    How new vbios is working? Is it worthy to update from one provided by dsanke?

    I have older dsanke bios version. The one that is still working with 144hz g sync screen.
     
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    I like the idea of "newest stock vBIOS for TM", especially when paired with modded TM BIOS.
    It works great, just like stock (KM dedicated) vBIOS on stock KM BIOS.
     
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    I have used a mod and now use the Intel 9th generation 9100f on my clevo p751dm-g. The CPU is working really nice, but one problem that I am currently having is that G-Sync isn't available and that the core clock of the 970M dedicated GPU never exceeds 405MHz core clock. Because of this the GPU doesn't even give half of the performance it is actually capable of giving. Does anybody know how I can fix this? Do I have to edit some BIOS settings or do I have to flash a new BIOS or is it just driver related? I would really appreciate an answer. Currently I have tried multiple NVIDIA drivers including old ones and the latest ones. Also ones from the Clevo site. Somebody told me that the G-SYNC might've been because of the i3, and I would like some back up stories if this has been the case for you too! :D
     
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    I have my delidded i9 in a TM1 @4.5
    -80 undervolt.
    With realbench stress tests it reaches 100 degrees without throttling.
    Running prime it will surely throtthle so not using that :cool:
     
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    What are you running and what temps are you experiencing? What temps are you hoping to achieve?
     
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    I tried 4,5ghz it was around 1,18v almost 90 degree. 4,4 was around 80c, 4,3-4,2 around 70c. I checked with xtu 5 mins stress max fan.

    I hoped 4,5 under 80c
     
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    Is that the maximum undervolt you can reach @ 4.5 on all cores?

    Realbench 2.56 uses AVX now and is much more stressful overall versus 2.43. Prime95 26.6 will actually
    run cooler than Realbench 2.56. Give 29.x a whirl for giggles. :)
     
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    This the moment where you have to cut power off, no sooner nor later:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes that the maximum stable undervolt with realbench.
    @4.6 it gets too hot for my liking (without throttling)

    Maybe I will give 2.43 a shot one day but on the other hand I need AVX to let Ableton run with best performance. So I will probably not change avx. (It did run cooler setting avx to -2)
     
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    Yeah, the @Prema magic is always the top dog creme de la creme, but I decided to keep my P870DM-G and wanted to run an 8086k so I had to go Dsanke.

    It will be curious to see if the new flash process works on incoming DM models.

    Good trial and error and discovery!
     
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    any particular reason why u want to keep the cpu below 80C? you are aware that the official TjMax for the 9900K is 120C right? i have mine set at a TjMax of 115C (max value the PremaMod allows) and going up to 105C is no issue whatsoever. 105C is the new 90C, so 95C is the new 80C ;)

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    Jesus CHRIST! 120c WTF!!! Surely the cpu socket would start melting :D
     
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    nothing yet about IME dissabled?
     
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    yep ;) cpu socket melting? lol naaaah, thats the core temp inside the silicon, socket is far enough away from that, so no worries mate! :)

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
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    To other KM users a little twist just like in a good movie.
    Here is a screenshot of my current firmware setup:
    [​IMG]
    No, it`s not edited whatsoever, it comes directly from my KM1-G. It just works. Mix of few things but everything is stock directly from Clevo and yes - 9th gen works. Just like that, no mods, and with better performance (massive Cinebench CPU benchmark improvements). I`m not questioning mod for other models but for KM... Well, I`ve spent whole day on tests/benchmarks and I know what I`m seeing.

    Just want to share it with you KM guys, an alternative, that`s all.
    Be happy and stay safe.
     
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    Km, tm, dm. Shared with everyone :D

    It's great that we can keep our old chipset and still be able to upgrade cpu's :D

    Nice upgrade there
     
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    I hope you at least taped over the pads on the underside of the CPU, otherwise it will burn out those pins on the CPU socket.
     
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    But of course.
     
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    To be fair it doesn’t matter, you can remove those two pins if you want the socket will still be compatible with 6/7/8 and 9th gen CPU’s. But yeah if you want to protect your cpu socket and keep it brand new cover the pins
     
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    But my 6700k did not show the right clock speeds or has that been updated?
     
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    That was due to the bios issue, the new bios corrected that clock speed problem.
     
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    What's the newest bios for the P870DM-G date wise and is there a change log? I've updated ~3 (soon to be 4) DM's and a KM over the last 3-4 months. The last was my own on May 13th to run a binned 8086k.
     
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    Good day. p870dm-g 6700k gtx1070. I am instal bios P870DMx.rom and the installation was successful. But there is a problem. After switching on, there is nothing on the screen. After about a minute, the laptop restarts. 1) I did not close the 2 pins on the processor. 2) I wrote fpt -f P870DMx.rom -rewrite -y.
    It was mistake to flash .rom? Or I killed the processor by didn't close 2 pins?
     
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    Did you read Op? You needed to flash the gpu first..
     
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    I checked the GOP and it was 0x30006. Is it also not suitable?
     
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    You need a spi programmer to reflash the BIOS now
     
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    Sadly. But why did this happen? The GOP was right, the update was successful ...
     
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    Can happen due to ME being written afterwards if I'm not mistaken. Now you need a spi programmer and you should be good to go
     
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    Are you running a P870DM or a P870DM2/3? You indicate you have a P870DM-G but you also note a 1070 (which could be an aftermarket upgrade), but you flashed P870DMx (which is for 2/3) and not P870DM (which is for the original).

    Closing the pins on 8XXX/9XXX chips protects the socket contacts from burnout, but if your BIOS flash had been successful a 6700k would boot just fine as is after flash.

    Assuming everything went as it should, did you make sure to follow the new power off steps at the end of flashing (no battery, unplug after BIOS flash, no reset command)?

    Regardless, the Black Screen of Death indicates you're going to have to now disassemble the system and manually program the system BIOS chip (located towards the front of the system board) with an SPI programmer.

    You will need (or similar):

    Programmer:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Harness Wires:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Clip:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    It is relatively easy and straight forward, just time consuming. Remember, once you've removed the palm rest assembly, you're good to go. No need to remove the entire system board.
     
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    I bought the P870DM-G. It was installed gtx 1070, and worked on a modified driver. After the system was reinstalled, the card began to be listed as "Microsoft's basic video adapter." I was advised to install dsanke bios. So I got here. It was mistake to install P870DMx? I need P870DM?
    Yes
    Well, not always) Before updating the BIOS, I ran into the same problem (nothing on the screen), the only difference being that the computer did not restart, but continued to stand with the black screen forever. CMOS faults did not help, as did the extraction of components. Helped the way to configure the BIOS "blindly."
    I will definitely buy the programmer.

    Thank you all for helping.
     
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    Guys, I still do not understand what bios to install on the P870DM-G. P870DM.rom or P870DMx.rom?
    As I understand it, the microcircuit is on the side of the motherboard where there are no MXM connectors?
     
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    Flash the P870DM-G.rom, the chip is located directly underneath the touchpad. So the opposite side of the mxm connectors.
     
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    P870DM-G.rom

    The other, the "x" in the end is for 2 or 3, being P870DM2-G or P870DM3-G respectively. The information is all there.. Just read Op and the file you downloaded with the BIOS. Has a Readme with instructions and it's clear enough :)
     
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    He has a P870DM-G. Not a P870DM2/3-G. Or am I wrong!?
     
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    I remember google translating those instructions. I tried to make them as clear as possible. :D
     
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    Yes I'm pretty sure it's a p870dm-g, he said he installed a gtx 1070 in it. I made a mistake typing in x instead of g lol.
     
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    Is it me or is the vapour chamber + cpu heatsink combination absolutely abysmal for cooling @Mr. Fox, @Papusan why tf did clevo attach the vapour chamber to the cpu. Absolute idiots, now my 8600k thermal throttles for no reason reaching 100c easily even with liquid metal! I'm buying a tm1 non vapour chamber single heatsink which has two heatsinks for both fans and using the p870tm1 cpu heatsink too, this cooling is frankly too bad for my liking, bga chip in my GT83 ran cooler!

    The cooling on the p870dm-g was way better on both gpu and cpu and the fans ran quieter reaching a max of 83c on cpu and 67c on the gpu respectively!
     
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