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    Razer Blade 15 RTX update

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. yggdra.omega

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    Nearly burnt my legs off last night playing Ashes of the Singularity in bed with my 2080 RB15 lol
     
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    What fan profile were you using?

    I game in bed as well and a laptop cooling pad is essential, click for the one I use.
     
  3. Joikansai

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    I see, seems you got lemon Blade 15 1070. Firestrike never bring mine to high 80ish both cpu and gpu mostly low 80ish or in this winter maybe 70ish gpu, recently tested it again after 9 months not huge difference, even one core starting to act badass reaching mid 80ish on stress test without undervolting, out of box condition. I used throttlestop only first week or two, after that only simple xtu undervolting with rising bottom area with laptops feet.
    Who play long session games on bed with Blade? You covered the intake Fans on bottom, it like vacuuming your bed with 3k vacuum cleaner :D. And heat is easier transferred to cassis because that tnt aluminum material. Play 6 to 7 hours, it’ll blow on your feet :p
     
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    My current razer blade (1070 max Q) hits 100C on CPU with max fans in any game after about 20 minutes (1070 max Q). GPU barely breaks a sweat- temps in the 70s at worst. I'm going to attempt a repaste this weekend and see if I get any improvement there.

    Just FYI, firestrike is not a good benchmark for thermals, as it is 1) very short and 2) except for the 1-2 combined tests is only loading either the CPU or the GPU separately rather than together. Even the stress test (runs 20 loops) is not enough to reach thermal equilibrium on the razer blade, which is why you see youtubers like Dave2D using that and claiming that the blade has no thermal throttling and great cooling (LOL).
     
  5. Joikansai

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    I’m playing already around 30 minutes 1440p RE2 Remake Gaming Mode temperature spike to high 80ish but mostly on mid 70ish, not repasting yet still factory default, only ssd upgrade and -130mV undervolting. B339A0DA-3800-4AE1-BC36-789F66495B92.jpeg
     
  6. HeavyUser

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    I'm aware, it does give you a general idea though of what to expect. Like I mentioned earlier, I will be gaming on it for a few hours tonight(Overwatch :p) and post some temps for you guys to get some real world number.
     
  7. HeavyUser

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    I wish my temps looked like that on my old razer! Mine was a serious heat machine.

    From what I read the razer blade pros already had really good paste from the factory, so it didn't really seem worth it to re paste unless you were using something like liquid metal.
     
  8. AlexRiker

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    Jokansai, with regard to those temps:
    1) I assume you're not using the razer core listed in your sig while getting those temps, right? Using the built in GPU?
    2) I take it you have the 4K screen since you say you're running at 1440P. does the game/monitor lock to 60 FPS or did you limit the FPS? At 1440P you would be significantly GPU bottlenecked which would lower the CPU temps. I have played around with limiting the FPS in a few titles for thermal's sake and for more stable performance but I'm a big fan of high refresh rate gaming.

    I appreciate that- any data is good data. But, just conveying that when I run firestrike on my blade the temps look similar; and bear absolutely no resemblance to my temps in any real world gaming load. If you'll be playing overload i'll check my thermals in that too so I have a direct point of reference. Hope your machine serves you well!

    Also as a point of reference for anyone else, my main tests have been witcher 3, rainbow six siege, assassin's creed origins with unlocked FPS. Some less demanding games like rocket league, nex machina, etc do seem to run a little cooler. I expect overwatch may be the same.
     
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    Hahaha, the intakes were not covered, I had the top corners sitting on my thighs with my legs bent up. Thing is on fire after an hour of Ashes!
     
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  11. Joikansai

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    1. If I’m using Razer Core Core clock frequency would stay over 2gb because it’s useless using full gpu with OC like this A225B73E-126B-47F1-A224-1107009FCFB6.jpeg
    2. Above BFV is my 1440p Monitor, that RE2 is on 4K monitor 60Hz downscale to 1440p, need only 60fps stable, 4K a bit down maybto 40ish I think, but for sure not stable 60 on max setting (I prefer max). Rarely look at osd value, only when l feel struggling which is rarely after getting that g sync monitor and that 4K monitor is nvidia adaptive sync capable as well, but I think I never see max cpu 100 or high 90ish max 70 or 80 on SotR, only gpu mostly on 90ish which is great. You’re undervolting your cpu right? On AO Origins or maybe Witcher 3 as well don’t use gaming mode, those are cpu killer titles, will easily spike you to 90ish or even 100, without undervolting Guarantee 100 on long session. Here’s my hours AC Oddysey temperature on balanced mode, almost die keeping it no go further than 90 :) 5E083F60-9CA4-479D-A670-CB5A4F81CBDD.jpeg

    Note notebookcheck 2070 review that @Vistar Shook show above, stress on Witcher 3 (I don’t think an hour) older game even cpu demanding title but not as bad as AC Franchises, hit almost high 80ish and I think it’s on balanced mode with lower cpu tdp.
     
  12. HeavyUser

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    Here we go, almost 3 hours of Overwatch, Ultra Graphics, Razer Synapse performance set to Gaming, Fan Speed on Auto.

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    I'm very satisfied with these results. Ill crank the fans up to 100% and post those temps as well. Fan noise on auto is very silent, imo.
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  13. AlexRiker

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    Those are some nice thermals, at least compared to what I have.
    To some prior posters, yes, in balanced mode (not gaming) my CPU goes right to 100
     
  14. HeavyUser

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    One thing that should be noted, the cpu does power limit throttle. At 99% usage on all cores the cpu will downclock to 3.2ghz
     
  15. Joikansai

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    Yes it’s similar with last year Blade 15, and it’s why your cpu isn’t hitting 90ish with max boost, but on games mostly we don’t need max 8750H max 45 or more wattage, but you’ll still get butter smooth gaming experience. You can check it on afterburner osd or HWinfo64 3.9 watt won’t always stay on peak and wattage won’t be 45 watt on even gaming mode, it’ll go down on lower wattage and increase but still can boost to 3,9 all cores occasionally. I think it’s Razer firmware setting or new intel solution to handle this new 6 cores cpu that is known hot.
    On long session i would recommend manual Fans setting though.
     
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    How is the fan noise with the 2080MQ?
    Just read the review on notebookcheck with the 2070MQ and it’s very surprisingly low when gaming (42Db when playing the Witcher on Ultra ).
     
  17. HeavyUser

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    There may be some kind of bug but I cannot get Riva Statistics Server OSD to show up on any games..... Can one of you with an RTX laptop possibly test this for me so we can see if this is a bug?
     
  18. Joikansai

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    Did you ever having it work on your previous laptop or pc, or is this your first try using it? And which version is it?
     
  19. HeavyUser

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    I've had it working in the past on other machines, set up OSD settings in Afterburner and then make sure RTSS is set to show on screen display and on screen display support.... meh
     
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    I use 4.6.10 Beta with OC Scanner for my rtx egpu setting, it works fine, maybe worth to try. If not you can try Evga precision x.
     
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    OSD Precision XOC worked, thanks.
     
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    Any of you with the 2080 max q have the game Middle Earth: Shadow of War? I was wondering if you could run the in game benchmark for me and post your results.

    I can't seem to get past 105fps score on Ultra, it seems pretty low compared to benchmarks online.
     
  23. Joikansai

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    Try changing maybe sync setting from adaptive...not quite sure since I uninstalled it already, and not know quite sure on Rtx Blade but on last 1070 model on default setting it was also lower than average, I changed one setting and it goes to normal (higher) FPS.
     
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    I am pleasantly surprised by how quiet the 2080MQ is. Razer is known for loud whiny fans but not in this machine. You will hear them but it’s not bothersome and not over game audio
     
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    I bought a new razer rtx 2080, and upgraded HD to Samsung 970 pro, is there a list of drivers, bios somewhere? I noticed on razer.com it didn't have any uploaded there yet
     
  26. Joikansai

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    You may want to wait till they upload it. You can fresh install windows and install manually drivers from each vendor like nvidia and intel, but bios, firmware and newest Synapse (Blade Rtx Synapse 3 is a bit different on looks and mode, there’s new creator mode beside traditional balanced and gaming mode, and rpm is higher up to 5300 I think vs before only 5000rpm, this may be hardware related). Though you can try contact support ask for that or maybe try using Synapse all installer from advanced last year after windows clean installation, or clone the original ssd. If those didn’t work you can put back the original ssd again.
     
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    990mhz with limited usage. 100% usage clock speed stablizies around 1400mhz
     
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    I’m pretty sure it’s also similar higher tdp gpu 90 Watt one. Did you already surpass 21K graphics score? I think with afterburner it may perform higher.
     
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    I get around 20300 give or take with the graphics score. I stopped benchmarking as I'm plenty happy with the results from real world gaming.
     
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    I have got my hands on 2070mq blade 15. The first thing I noticed is coil whine, which is louder than previous 10 series blade 15. The second thing is that the speakers have much richer sound. I think the bass is little overcome the high and mid. Third, the touch pad now has a very small delay comparing to previous machine just like someone mentioned before.

    I also upgraded the ssd to 970 evo. The installation process is very simple and easy. Windows update will automatically install all necessary drivers. All I need to download are Nvidia driver, Intel graphic driver, WIFI driver, and synapse. Just downloading the synapse from raver website. Everything works perfectly
     
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    Here is the performance. Windows balanced, synapse gaming mode. -150mv undervolt
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    I'm so glad I'm not the only one noticing the small delay on the track pad! coming from 1070 blade to 2080. I haven't been able to find a fix unfortunately.
     
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    Good results. WHat kind of temps are you getting on the CPU during testing?
     
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    Is delay tolerable / annoying? Have the Razer support folks said anything?
     
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    For me. I am ok. The delay is very minimum unless you pay close attention to it. Still one of the best track pad.

    TBH, coil whine is really pissing me off. I thought razer should already eliminate this type of issue
     
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    CPU is only around 81 82, but this is only one round of test. Expecting to increase a little after multiple round.
     
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    The track pad is tolerable, you get used to it after a while. I just hope they fix it soon. It just doesn't feel as precise as my 1070 RB15 did. Razer support reached out to me on the Reddit and wanted me to send them a video but it's going to be near impossible to video it. The coil whine is super annoying though. I have two 2080 blades both with the same coil whine. It's tolerable and quiet at times but other times it's really annoying. I wouldn't say its loud though, but it's there.
     
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    Do you notice any difference of your speakers? Mine seems to be muffle and too much bass, which sound significant differently than my 1070 model. Did I get faulty speakers?
     
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    That's pretty good. Especially since once you game on it then it shouldn't get that high. I've seen some get up into the 90's
     
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    Coil whine and Light bleed are to be expected. Some units have it worse than others but in the end it does not effect the longevity of the device.
     
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    Are any of you with an RTX card able to run the 3DMark DLSS feature test? It tells me I dont have a compatible card, also if I try to enabled DLSS in Battlfield 5 the game crashes out on my and won't load....

    Drivers and Windows up to date.

    SOLVED

    Set Phys X, in nvidia control panel, to RTX graphics card.
     
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  44. balthazar2k4

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    I am not seeing much about the 2060 variant. It appears to be the laptop version and not MQ. If so, that would make it potentially 10-15% faster than the 2070 MQ. Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't you just go for the cheaper 2060 option if that is indeed the case?
     
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    That’s quite untrue, yes you’re missing a lot both 2070mq and 2060 is already downclocked mobile gpu, there’s officially no 2060 maxq yet. And 2060 performs quite similar with 1070maxq. Giving it maxq would be cripple it more down. GPU tdp is vary depends on brands, there’re 80watt and 90 Watt version, Blade 15 is usually use later and a lot reviewers unit are 80watt 2070maxq, like Aero 15, that confused a lot users. Here’s same Blade performance difference, all are stock gaming mode with cpu undervolting (idk on 2060 one)
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    With some afterburner touch and lower undervolting with good silicons lottery it may go higher.
     
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    Yeah the speakers are definitely different sounding. I wouldn't say mine sound muffled though but they do have more bass for sure. I like the sound of the updated speakers.
     
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    While I understand what you are saying, I am was basing my performance assertion on this: https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeFor...Force-RTX-2060-Laptop_9611_9581.247598.0.html

    I am in total agreement that it isn't logical.
     
  48. Joikansai

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    That’s what I was talking about, Aero 15 2070 is 80 watt, and probably a lot manufacture bios limitation for thermal reason. You can’t compare (on some benchmarks) it with 2060 laptop that paired with K cpu. Best comparison is between models on same brand, gpu tdp and same cpu.
     
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    I didn't even look at the laptop being used (obviously). Now that I see they are using a desktop class 9700K in the much larger Schenker XMG Ultra 15 it makes much more sense. Thanks for the clarity.
     
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    At least beats my 1080 GT73 overclocked by a small margin.
     
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