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    Razer Blade 15 RTX update

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I dont play Apex so I cant say anything about the performance in that game.

    But the performance is almso tidentical to the overclcoked full fat 1070 in my Alienware 15R3 so in general 15~20% faster than the 1070MQ depending on the game and resolution.

    To prevent the bloating up, keep it cool as much as possible. I did that to limit the clockspeeds to 3.4ghz and undervolt. I dust out the laptop with canned air every 3 months. This helps me to keep the temps between 80c~85c while gaming under load in a 22c room. The GPU sits around 75c. Unfortunately we cannot preven tit by limiting the charge of the battery to 80%. This would lower the internal cell voltage which theoretically quadruples the lifespan and cause less heat while charging. SO the only factor we can remove as much as possible is to just keep it cool. The battery quality isnt great but we cannot fix that.

    Also dont use a super hot NVMe drive next to the battery. I opted for a Sata drive such as the Samsung 860evo. It runs way cooler. and apart from benchmarks, I dont notice the speed difference.
     
  2. eddi3x3x3

    eddi3x3x3 Notebook Evangelist

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    That performance you mentioned is with stock vbios? Or another version? How many watts?

    Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
     
  3. rinneh

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    Stock bios and stock settings of the GPU. Using balanced mode I see the wattage in use peaking at 100watts but in general is is around 90watts.

    I dont recommend using anothe rbios because it heats up the mediocre cooled VRM's thus ruining the lifespan slowly and also pushing more heat into the chassis.
     
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    eddi3x3x3 Notebook Evangelist

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    Wait the new blade 15 with 9750h pulls 90w on the gpu? Or is yours the earlier version with 8750h, I saw the new refresh has 80w gpu on the forums but not sure if it's true

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  5. rinneh

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    My personal unit is the early 2019 version. The new version is 80watts indeed (we have it at the office). But the performance is generally just the same. Might be that they just undervolted the GPU a bit to gain the same performance.
     
  6. eddi3x3x3

    eddi3x3x3 Notebook Evangelist

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    That's concerning, wish there was a website that had fps numbers for all models.... Notebook check doesn't have fps numbers for a bunch of games (including Apex) for the razerblade 15 specifically.

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  7. rinneh

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    Apex isnt benchmark friendly and differs with every run. But the 3Dmark scores are pretty much identical for the early and mid 2019 blades. ALso you can use data from other laptops.
     
  8. Joikansai

    Joikansai Notebook Deity

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    Beside bad luck of battery batch, battery bloat can be happening if you don’t care about the thermal, too hot cassis makes the parts wear like the battery faster.
    On Turing especially mobile maxq the difference between gen with Pascal isn’t huge like Maxwell to Pascal, maybe max around 20% raw, it has though fancy ray tracing function.
    I think new update (not quite sure bios or Synapse) brings back 90 watt gpu tdp on mid 2019 (9750H), tried high performance mode? Maybe balanced mode limits it on 80 watt.
     
  9. Metalocalypse

    Metalocalypse Notebook Guru

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    Hello guys, can you give me advice pls. It there worth to update from blade 2018 advanced 1070 max q to blade advanced 2080 240 9th optical keyboard?
     
  10. Makyura

    Makyura Notebook Consultant

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    I've upgraded from 8750 + 1070 to 9750 + 2080 and the improvement is huge.
    Worth the 3000 price tag? Maybe not, but this is some kind of luxury device, so the price has a meaning for sure, but not THAT much.
    I wanted something to play competitively on the go, so 240 hz screen and 2080 were a must, I didn't want any huge and heavy piece of plastic so this device was the only option available.
     
  11. Joikansai

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    Still rocking 1070maxq it’s still powerful enough for 1080p, more than that resolution I cheated with Razer Core and rtx2080. I’d hold the update see if the new keyboard comes with no issues, it’s nice though having that clicky mechanical keystrokes since current keyboard is too shallow to me, though I cheat also with black widow X on that department too :)
    FYI btw that optical keyboard atm only available on 2070maxq Blade 15 mid 2019.
     
  12. GR8-Ride

    GR8-Ride Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was playing with the new optical keyboard in the Razer store in Las Vegas last week....it felt...."unique" when compared with the standard chiclet keyboard on a similar Blade 15 right beside it. I'm not actually sure I like the new optical / mechanical keyboard in the Blade 15....would need a longer test to really determine it.

    I was very tempted to walk out the door with one of the 2080 Max-Q versions of the Blade 15....but I really haven't had much need for additional horsepower above my 2018 / 1070 Max-Q model.



    Patrick
     
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    Got my Blade Advanced w/ the optical keyboard in today. The base Blade Advanced already has a rigid chiclet low-profile keyboard, but the optical is a new high in that regard. The resistance, click, and key feel are spectacular. The key click does sound like a lighter, slightly less loud blue switch.

    The mechanical sound may not be everyone's cup of tea, but you really can't go wrong on either model in terms of quality. I'm stoked.
     
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    I've upgraded alot in my hiatus lol... I've since moved to the Razer Blade 15 OLED, I went with this model over the 17 inch model after seeing the 17 inch model at the Microsoft Store I was less then impressed for some reason. Oh and I also upgraded to the Supra MKV the part German One lol...
     
  15. GR8-Ride

    GR8-Ride Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've actually gone the other way....I was in the Microsoft store the other day, and was thinking of upgrading my 2018 Blade 15 / 1070 MQ to a 2070 MQ / i7-9750H version, but then I noticed the Blade Pro 17 with 2080 MQ in stock. So naturally, I walked out of the store with the Blade Pro 17.

    So far, I have to say that I'm fairly impressed. While it's over 1 lb heavier, I don't notice that in my bag at all. It uses the same 230W power supply as my Blade 15, so the spare power supplies that I have in the office and home office are all still usable. Temperatures are really good....Throttlestop was a requirement when playing games on my Blade 15, and with my Blade Pro 17, it rarely cracks over 90C unless I select the Custom high power CPU configuration in Synapse.

    Screen is good (240 Hz), and while I was a little worried about pixel density (or lack thereof), I haven't noticed anything at all, and as I get older (50+), the larger screen with a Full HD display actually works pretty well for me. I also appreciate the fact that I have 2 x M.2 slots, so for the moment, I'm rocking 2.5 TB of storage in my laptop, though I'll likely pickup a second 2TB Samsung 970 Evo and run a full 4 TB in the machine. The extra M.2 slot, SD card reader, and extra USB-C port were big features in favour of the Blade Pro 17 for me, in addition to the 2080 Max-Q.

    Battery life is likely to be poor, even compared to the Blade 15, which was surprisingly good. I haven't tested battery life overall yet, but I suspect 3 hours will be the best I'll see, compared to 4-5 out of my Blade 15.



    Patrick
     
  16. gnwjd12

    gnwjd12 Notebook Enthusiast

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    mind sharing your speed on the 970 evo drive for crystaldiskmark? i have 970 evo plus on my rb15 240hz model and read and right speed is not the advertise speed of 3500 / 3200. Im getting around 3100/3000 or so
     
  17. GR8-Ride

    GR8-Ride Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I just ran CrystalDiskMark 7 on the system, on both my 970 Evo 2TB, and on the Samsung PM981 stock drive in the second M.2 slot.

    On the 970 Evo, I'm getting 3125 Read and 2580 writes in the sequential tests. On the PM981, I'm getting 3200 Read and 1960 write on the sequential test.

    On one hand, the performance may not be quite what a person is expecting according to what the laptop / SSD can push, but on the other hand, performance in the laptop is blisteringly fast, so does it really matter?

    I've run the test in both Balanced Mode and Custom (full CPU performance) mode on the laptop, and no difference in CDM benchmarks for either drive as a result.

    Given that you're getting 3200/3000 on your Evo Plus, I'd say those aren't bad numbers at all.



    Patrick
     
  18. rinneh

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    a huge plus is that the PM981 doesnt run as hot, a goo dthing since it is directly next to the battery.
     
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    So, another thing to note, is that my Samsung 970 Evo is the original 970 Evo, and not the Evo Plus version. So my SSD is rated to 3500 Seq Read / 2500 Seq Write, and in looking at my numbers above, I'm close enough for horseshoes (3200:R 2500:W).

    I'm actually seriously considering picking up one of the new Sabrent Rocket PCI Gen4 devices, though I'm pretty sure the Blade 15/17 (or for that matter, the Intel 9750H in general) doesn't support PCI Gen4, so at best it would run at PCI Gen3 speeds.



    Patrick
     
  20. ColinMacLaren

    ColinMacLaren Notebook Geek

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    Hi I am debating between a Triton 500 and a Blade 15 (early 2019), both with 8750h and 2080-Max-Q and 144Hz FullHD.

    Is the screen on the Early Blade 2015 the same as the 2018 model?

    If so, I am leaning heavily towards the Triton.

    Triton has
    + much faster screen (8ms GtG bs 16ms GtG on Razer) according to notebookcheck
    + two NVME slots
    + Gsync

    Razer has
    + smaller build
    + better build quality
    + 90W GPU
    + bigger PSU

    Triton is 400 EURs cheaper.
     
  21. ColinMacLaren

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  23. ColinMacLaren

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    Got the Razer Blade. However, since it was an Amazon Warehouse Deal ist smelled disgustingly like cigarette smoke and I wan'st able to remove the stench with cleaning wipes.

    After some tweaking I managed to get only 1410Mhz on the GPU and a -0.125V on the CPU, both not that impressive either. So a bigger notebok with a fill 2080 is probably the better choice for me.

    Design and build quality were superb, though. This would be an ideal second pc just for traveling. But since I want to downsize to just one size, a 17" brick is probably the better way to go.
     
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