Razer Blade 14 5900HX

Boooooo. Not having both usb-c work with an external display is gonna make this a no go for me. Been using my Valve index with mine and I need video to work over usb-c.

I wonder if you’re right about the boost clocks being limited by the Razer bios? I guess they’re trying to not pull an Alienware and burn up there machines. It does end with rather cool running machine though.

 

Yes for some maybe it’s a trade off, but it’s like 5 minutes work maybe less. Same with old mux we’ve to restart laptop to by pass optimus now only with command prompt.
Not sure about temperature but as you see on screen shoot though it’s not hours gaming, my gaming temperature is similar I think not as hot as I thought. Or maybe they’re also drunk like the gpu tgp sensor

 

Yeah on RE village, i saw better FPS preset Ray tracing 1440p (sorry can’t do max setting thanks to nvidia that give xx70 since 2018 only 8gb) I think before mostly on 70ish now 80ish, or maybe because the hype . Temperature I think on cpu a bit higher though on balance mode, like reaching low 80ish before I think was 70ish, not sure gpu, but there I believe nothing to worry about.

 

So this isn't a direct question about the Blade 14, but windows 10 auto brightness settings. I was in my kitchen and the screen seemed like with was adjusting the contrast of the screen to make it seem brighter. But was making somethings look very washed out. I moved into the living room where it is alot darker and it seems to adjusted to what I would consider normal. Anyone have any idea how to turn that off?

 

He want to be flashed and try to get your attention .
Isn’t it on windows display setting, auto brightness things?

 

It hurts my nocturnal eyes!

I can change the brightness, but there doesn't seem to be any auto settings. Night Light, HD color, etc. Seems odd it wouldn't be there.

 

Tried that night light mode? And there’s also display brightness options on amd software. Is it something odd when on very bright room? Damn it’s dark outside to check it.
About vbios I found another friend that match 3070, it’s now can use usb c as display output, but it’s only 95 watt from gs66, checking the performance, but tgp is drunk too.

 

You know what? The AMD software has a feature enabled that says it changes the screen brightness. So I'm gonna turn that off and try using the laptop tomorrow when I have some sun light to test it with. Indoor lights don't seem to trigger it. And the sun has gone down for the day.

If its an improvement then its still promising. Gotta Squeeze every once we can out of our little titans.

 

Holly S, first run no manual OC nor cheating, hdmi usb c are fine outputting things.

Though every better gpu performance more cpu f-ed LoL. Tldr, gpu tgp doesn’t matter here, maxP Maxq maxz etc important performance…wait it doesn’t boost as high as Acer one
Edit: for real it’s yes cheating mode, but isn’t it 3080maxq gpu score?

 

Crazy to think the Blade 14 has this much untouched potential out of the box. Hopefully long term there are no issues as these numbers I’m seeing are awesome.

 

Yes indeed, it even everyday give me a surprise better than wife. With Razer vbios forget getting any higher than 6K on port Royal, no cheat.

Now just how to get the 5900HX a better wife perform. I found they reduced performance after latest bios update the cpu is capable doing 10K apparently, seeing bios to try searching similar imon tweak but it’s like Chinese or ancient Greek words to me

 

No wife for me so I wouldn’t know. I wonder why they turned down the cpu power? Maybe they’re doing some odd testing and data collecting in the background. But they better not start taking cuda cores away. That’s a practice that I never want to see again.

 

Hm I flashed the Acer VBIOS and could see any huge improvement in GPU performance. Maybe 200 points. Flashed back the Razer original BIOS.

 

Acer was yesterday, today is MSI. Try flash this bios, with LM maybe you’ll have better results than me.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/229982/229982

 

Your current results were based on Acer vBios or MSI vBios?

 

MSI

 

LOL, okay this is better The run was with 165/500Mhz OC. Benchmark completed with artifacts... but still very impressive

Port Royal = 6556 Score (150/500Mhz)

 

Yes as expected it’s better then mine, so LM needed to boost some performance and is it only me that can’t OC memory bigger than 400mhz…
Playing game on stock setting it feels better with hitting 100fps on RE village Ray tracing preset 1440p, CPU temperature a bit higher than Acer one though but nothing on worried 90ish degrees on balance mode, boost mode not tried yet, always gaming on balance mode for better temperature and acoustics.
Edit: Just rerun it with similiar OC, on this bios i could run same 165/500 OC no artifact though, i think due silicon, still on cpu test it hits high temperatur.

 

Okay maybe I should try Balanced Mode aswell. I have concerns regarding the artifacts

 

Okay I have disabled manual OC completly and the GPU boosts very very high by default.

In balanced Mode: 1755Mhz
In boost Mode: 1830Mhz

Played Cyberpunk in Boost Mode for about 20 Minuten. GPU 79C and CPU 91C, GPU Clocks 1830Mhz

Cyberpunk is max Settings and in QHD

 

Also played a round Battlefront 2 and everything is working perfectly with the MSI VBIOS. Boost ist still 1830Mhz on GPU with 76°C and CPU was around 88-91°C. (GPU and CPU liquid metal repasted)

Did a test with Hunt:Showdown. Before VBIOS cross flash I was hovering around 80-85FPS, now I have 90-95. Still very impressed by this nice device. My dBrand skin should also arrive in a few days

 

Tried Port Royal with the Acer 3080 vbios. Synapse set to boost and OC on GPU of +165/+500.

 

Yes I feel I need to LM with MSI one since I saw also mid 90ish temperatures quite often even mostly on 80ish areas the extra performance comes with extra heat. I’m not skin guy rather looking for keyboard cover since I’m quite dirty guy like drinking or smoking near the laptop outside in garden or cafes.

RIP my 3070 Egpu setting I thought it could be beaten huge laptops with 3080. It’s fair performance though from 3070 to 3080 mobile, around 15 FPS difference on Ray tracing BFV, on default I think 3080 blade performs similar with mine on new vbios on this test.
I need to move that 3070 into a real desktop I think sadly Razer core can’t be used as dock for blade 14

 

Tested some more games and unfirtunately I get some drops in GPU Core Boost and in FPS with the MSI Bios. Flashed the Razer VIBIOS back and the drops did not occur again. I have tested this with Metro: Exodus Advanced Edition. For Benchmarking the MSI VBIOS is nice but for daily use I will keep the Razer VBIOS. Besides that the system gets hotter and fans are spinning louder with MSI VBIOS.

 

How do you get that FPS Display on your top left side on your screen?

 

I am using the Acer vBios. With that the system doesn't run as hot as with the MSI and it stable for me.

 

The Acer vbios is cooler than MSI but both usb C can’t act as DP output only limited to pheriperals so it’s your choice. I personally use MSI only for that reason higher temperature I can handle by limiting cpu tdp on balance mode and it’s faster than synapse update to me to switch between those bioses… And skip hassle things to OC the gpu through afterburner.

 

MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner Statistics Server. Follow this tutorial to see how it works:

 

What nvidia driver version are you using? Looks like they recently released a new one 471.41

 

So I shipped my defective Blade back to Razer - to Taiwan - as instructed per a senior tech support rep email. Has anyone in the U.S. ever returned a laptop to Razer in Taiwan? The shipping label also is for the 3070 model despite mine being FHD and 3060. This just has disaster written all over it. What awful (lack of) customer support. I'll believe that I'm getting a refund when I see it, haha. If this goes poorly I'll swear off Razer for good.

 

It’s OEM one 466.17, I never update driver unless it’s needed for games, I tried before newer one but performance was under OEM one, not big on real usage but it’s noticeable on synthetic benchmarks. Really I’ll check it later then, thanks for the info.

So it’s really recommended to get not directly from Razer due this, retailers ( with bunch of discount) is the way to go, for easier replacement. Mine back in 2017 had no free shipping label had to pay my self, and I didn’t send to Taiwan but here to repair center, though it was a replacement for a newer 2017 model (from late 2016 14), maybe they changed the policy but nice to have free shipping label. My last 2 Razer units was from retailers due their discount is better than Razer one. Hopefully you’ll get also 3070 refund LoL.

 

Now that would be really funny if they refund a 3070 amount!

I just ordered a Lenovo Legion 5 non-pro, FHD 165hz w/ RTX 3070 for $1356 plus $120 for the 3 year onsite warranty. I can't resist, I'm insane. Heck of a price, can buy two of these for the price of 1 3080 Blade haha. No idea when it'll ship though. Will probably use it to replace my desktop.

 

I've bought peripherals from Razer directly, and any returns were sent back to a facility in Texas if I recall correctly. Hopefully you got a receipt when you dropped off the package so it will show as being in the shipper's system. Have your credit card company's phone number on standby in case of further complications.

 

I got a receipt for sure and also sent 2 more emails to Razer support that I sent the package. I have the long email chain that says to send the laptop to Taiwan, so in the end it should work out if I need to file a dispute.

 

I truly hope everything works out for you. BTW, if you want some entertainment at just how legendarily awful Razer technical support is, grab a drink and watch this video.

 

Wow, just watched that video. I'm not at all surprised 1) they actually forgot to charge him and messed up the cancelation, and 2) admitted on the phone that they (tech support) know nothing about the products they sell. So ridiculous and hilarious. The shoes email had me laughing out loud.

I will say the issues he has with the 15" are non-issues for me on the new 14". No coil whine or odd fan noise, they are completely off when idle. I'm reading a 1600 page PDF for work at the moment and the laptop is cool to the touch. I tested the 165hz refresh rate while on battery and even disabled the dGPU in device manager, thankfully there are no issues here like on his 15", Synapse works fine and shows 60hz and 165hz, and both work. That would've been an auto-return for me.

I am cringing at the thought of something happening to my currently perfect Blade and having to deal with CS again. Even though the 3 year warranty I bought with it is through MS, you need to deal with Razer during the 1st year.

 

As promised:

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/235669/235669

2021 Blade 15 3080 105w VBIOS

Although I see some of you are already getting great results with the Acer and MSI versions.

 

The laptop supposed to be shipped to Taiwan and mail instruction about sending to CA was their mistake, make sense since this’s rare amd chip, even sent to CA they’ll resend again to China factory. But yes till you get the money you have to be aware, just ask them how long you’ll get the refund since usually here it’s up to 14 days after unit come to assigned delivery point in this term China, it’s good if it’s not transit first somewhere in Africa LoL. Just ask about free sneaky sneaky for your “trouble” asking doesn’t cost anything

About Josh, he has some right points but he also a joke tech youtuber, I remember he was shocked by BSOD on windows laptops he’s better reviewing Tim book or Dell books anything beside gaming laptops, I think not only Razer he’s complaining.

 

It gives me ID mismatch error, haha. I even flashed back to my stock Razer vbios and tried again, same error. That's so strange / too bad. I was hoping to flash it and have the power readings corrected. My device ID is 249C so it's different. And why wouldn't it be...Thank you very much for sharing.

Interestingly my stock vbios won't really let me OC the memory. I see the mhz jumping back and forth down to the stock values. On the flashed Acer vbios it remains the same speed / what I set it to.

Good points. Thanks again for all of your help sending friendly reminders to Razer CS on my behalf, very kind of you.

Yeah, he really shouldn't opine about laptops before trying / buying them.

 

Same at first I couldn’t also go over 400mhz memory (default boost and high put it to auto 100/400), after sometimes and saw @pitha1337 OC setting and dang I could run 165/500 on MSI vbios though. I didn’t back yet to razer either Acer or MSI, the later one only for fancy benchmarks, Acer nice for gaming for its lower temperature. I’ve some vbios to test, got them last night but was bed time LoL.

 

That's what I run on the Acer vbios, 165/500. I crash at +195 on the core and / or +700 on the memory, so I've settled on a "safe" OC that gives me great results. I've run +600 on memory just fine but prefer to leave it a bit lower just to be stable.

 

Your lack of surprise when seeing a BSOD on Windows almost certainly comes from the fact that you and others here are doing things with your laptops that they weren't designed to do (flashing different vBIOS, etc). That's fine in an enthusiast sense, but that's not Josh's audience.

 

That’s why I said he should reviewing Apple phone for his audience not windows laptops and their superior CS, Tim has good job on that department. There’s tons things to understand being gaming laptops tech reviewers, let say Dave2d, Jarrod, M.Montiz, owndisown, gizmotech, they maybe have similar audiences like him but they know things waay better. And I remember he put his photo with those YouTubers on some his video or post I think that try to tell he’s one of them, so that’s the thing to me, hmm honestly maybe I don’t like his personality personally.

 

I think because Razers frequency is already low, so using new vbios with higher frequency should lower the OC values, same with my 3070, all has different max and stable OC.

 

That's valid. I and others I'm sure fully accept the risk of bricking, haha, especially since the TGP is the same on the other vbios. If someone tries to run a 165w vbios on a laptop meant for 100w, that's just asking for trouble. As soon as I get my hands on the Legion 5 I ordered (assuming I don't cancel because there's no ETA) the first thing I'm doing is flashing the 140w 3070 vbios from the 5 Pro onto it.

Yeah, I figured, but I couldn't even do a +100 manual OC on the memory. It wouldn't crash but would always default to whatever Synapse set it to. With the Acer vbios that doesn't happen and my values I set stick. Something to do with one of Razer's "optimizations" I'm sure. If I was messing with higher TGP vbios I'd be worried, but at same TGP, all is safe.

 

Apparently according to this Reddit post, MSI vBios that I used is kind of shunt mode, it’s actually pulled up to 130 watt, so that explains our high temperature @pitha1337. Before I found this post I tested also some other version including Clevo 105 watt and it’s fine, was in hurry testing it because had appointment, timespy only slightly better than stock vBios but thus thread mentioned cooler temperature, which is interesting to try.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG1..._source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
For 3070 version we’ve already 130 Watt then isn’t necessarily to wait pro 17 130 wadittt vbios, but also needs tons padding,LM, extra Fans and Ice cool stand running boost mode

Edit: Using clevo 105 vbios so far temperature performance are great around 5 degrees lower than shunt mode gs66 one lower performance but could still catch jarrod 3080 unit on 1440p which is setting i use always, this run without cheating and no extra OC to make fair comparison (default boost+high synapse 100/400), though Jarrod one was earliear vbios with better cpu boost compared to mine atm on 1.06, so if they bring back that boost performance, or we found something to tweak it (ryzen control suck only limited to 3600mhz, we need at least 4200mhz boost frequency for this to achieve earlier performance) should run even better.
1080p

1440p

comparison page
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/razer-blade-14-5900hx.836231/page-20
clevo 105 vbios
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/232160/232160
PS: i didn’t compare yet to current 1.06 Blade 14 3070 default vBios, but if you’ve the game run same setting if it’s better than I tested before on page 20 (that was a bit different setting with higher OC than default, I think it was 175/400).

 

Since apparently not shared yet on g14 owner lounge, maybe this’s also for them when peeping here like i just did there .
Once Jarrod tech before compared g14 with top end blade 14 so that wasn’t fair, hardware Canuck compared with lower 3070 blade 14 with max out 3060 g14, performance on productivity isn’t huge on cinebench multi it even beat a bit his unit (my unit even after bios update still can do 5000cb though but before it could do 5200 ish). On gaming though it even beats g15 3080 on some benchmarks, maybe it’s better smack down with legion 5 pro 3070, not huge difference on most titles (maybe due scandal… rumored cheap RAM ).

accidentaly Today I saw Blade 14 on windows shop on big electric shop here, it was put on gaming laptops corners together with bulkybook no one will think that it’s housing 3070, some bulky book had even only 1660ti, it’s like someone put m1 macbook on Alienware display windows (models before x series maybe). Man I regretted didn’t take a shoot

 

So I got around to using my kill a watt a bit ago using the flashed Acer 3080 vbios. The reading is interesting...I don't think this is really a 100w vbios. I saw up to 200w total system draw during Timespy and F1 2021. Not a snowball's chance in hell that the 5900HX is consuming a constant load of 100+ watts...while the GPU is active...right? I thought it was capped at ~50w when GPU is also under load?

This could also explain the much higher clock speed compared to other 100 and 105w vbios (I've tried Asus, Gigabyte, and Clevo 100w and 105w vbios). We're talking 300+ higher on the Acer vbios. I'm seeing gaming clocks range from 1775mhz to 1930mhz on the Acer vbios compared to 1500-1600mhz on stock Razer and other 100w vbios.

Is this pushing the limits on this 230w power supply? Normally I'd say no, but it is Razer we're talking about and I have less faith in the quality of power source. Not to mention the VRMs. I am so curious what the actual wattage is of this vbios / 3080. I didn't think Acer makes a laptop with a 3080 that is higher than 105 watts? The highest is 110w and apparently that update hasn't been pushed out yet to Acer owners.

My next question is, would the Razer 250w power supply work with the 2021 14" Blade?

https://www.razer.com/gaming-pc-accessories/Razer-250W-Power-Adapter/RC30-01660200-B3U1

Maybe I am wrong and 200w system power under load is normal? Glad I bought the MS 3 year warranty!

 

So if the power supply goes out from drawing too much wattage as a result of your doing something to the laptop that it was not designed to do, you’re going to claim a warranty replacement? While Razer sucks in many ways, if I am correct about what you are implying, that is a profoundly scummy action on your part.


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I was being half sarcastic. I got the warranty due to risk of battery bloat. I accept the risks doing this stuff. Not trying to defraud anyone. Perfectly happy to just buy another power supply. As I am just buying another battery if this one bloats.

*Edit- on the stock vbios the total system draw was 165w during the same gaming test, so there's something going on with the alleged 100w Acer vbios.