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    Razer Blade 14 5900HX

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Jun 14, 2021.

  1. Terreos

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    More EMO than angry. :p

    Pick a skin for you Blade yet? This new and improved finger print resistant coating is just smudgy. :confused:
     
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    ye I got the black camo as always.
     
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    According to this video around 33:00, he said new v2 blade stealth 13 protective sleeve fits great on blade 14. LoL they should put this also on website page that it’s not only for 13inch laptops.
    Spoiler: it’s Japanese :D Free to ask if you want to know what they’re saying, since Google can translate it yet…maybe, or is it already LoL. It’s AMD shows in Japan.

    Edit: just for fun I compared performance on battery blade 14, Razer book on battery, blade 14 with power power bank (responding guy on YouTube video that run with power bank), and full power ac adapter and OC external monitor performance (results is on the row). TLDR safe your time don’t do that :biglaugh:
    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/25827553/fs/25827663/fs/25827597/fs/25816887
     
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    Another question for you all.

    For anyone running one of these with an external display, be it USB-C DP or HDMI, what is the average GPU power draw? And is it enough to run somewhat toasty just doing light tasks?

    I ask because this was a huge pain in the MBP 16’s.
     
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    GPU power draw depends what you’re doing so far on internal monitor I use only for benchmarking or gaming to pull out all of its performance since it’s by passing the optimus, it’s if you pulled it out not sure average but maxed 100watt sometimes a bit more. That MBP16 issue I think isn’t here it’s sometime like on start up or doing something heavy fans kicking noticeable which’s expected but after that it’s silent again.
     
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    I’m talking about during casual use, nothing GPU intensive.

    The MBP 16 is stuck at a constant 15w draw when on an external display, which makes it get decently hot/have the fans blaring. It doesn’t get silent again (I have one).
     
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    I’m not with blade 14 rn. But when I’m not wrong, the gpu on use 0% on afterburner it’s kicking when running it and after finished for few seconds it comes back silent. I’ll check it later though but pretty sure it’s silent when not doing intensive tasks even on external monitor, I know that MBP16 issue btw.
    Edit: yes it’s draw gpu power, because it’s directly connected to gpu I suppose, between 3 to 30 watt variable, mostly under 10 watt if you don’t do anything, fans it’s on but you’ve to concentrate on it to hear that (at least to me it’s not disturbing not sure from MBP users prospective, compared to m1 MBP13 maybe loud?)
     
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    Not sure if it’s from synapse update, but it’s suck can’t OC core clock to 220+ Anymore stuck on 210 now. On top of that nvidia latest update ruined it, best driver so far is oem one, 466.11, at least to my unit. Thanks god it can bring back my magic 10K, new synapse and nvidia driver stucked on like 9,8K. Yeah I know it’s only synthetic but it’s big to me, made me want to get 3080 instead, it’s already on store to pickup but with this result I’ll cancel it.
     
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    Reached out to Sopiguard about whether or not they would make skins without the Razer symbol cutout. And they said they liked my idea and added it as an option. You’re all welcome. ;) I’m more of a fan of the stealths muted symbol so covering up the bright green symbol is the next best thing.

    @Joikansai determined to have the high score I see. :p
     
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    Here's the Jarrod's Tech review of the RTX 3080 Blade 14.



    It really sucks that the 1080p screen has a 20ms response time because otherwise the 3060 option would be really appealing in spite of the soldered RAM.
     
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    Here's an odd issue. When I plug an external monitor into the Blade using a mini-DP to USB-C adapter, the laptop detects it as a USB device and not a display. Happens on both USB-C ports. I can connect using HDMI just fine. I reverted back to my stock 3060 vbios as well, same issue. Anyone have suggestions?
     
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    I’ve usb c to DP adapter dongle, should that do the test?
     
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    Yeah, that’s what I used. Thank you.

    -Edit: a simple Nvidia driver clean install worked. All is well. Phew!
     
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    Haha. But thanks, got new found. I just I tried first time on my main g sync monitor (usually use for book13 and Egpu) damn that wallpaper looks sweet on bigger qhd display, I use blade 14 till now with small 15 inch portable usb c monitor 1080p. I think I won’t back to that small screen 1080p, at least at home.
     

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    Yes, it does look awesome. It may be the vbios that I flashed. I just flashed back to the 115w one and external monitor won't work again, it is detected as a USB device haha. I really won't use an external monitor anyway with the laptop but I was curious about GPU performance, that's how I stumbled into that problem. At least I know it isn't a hardware issue.
     
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    :eek:Holly shxx. And it added extra FPS close to Jarrod external monitor 3080. Before on smaller portable monitor it was only 104fps.
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    No OC I swear, only boost and high mode, I’ll be back with manual OC to catch that 112 FPS :D
     
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    Here is my result, not too bad but can't touch yours obviously.

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    :eek:Wow That’s a great score for 3060, i think on internal display I got same FPS, but man that is a yellow card, 124watt!! On soccer next time would be a red o_O :D
     
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    Hi, thanks for your information about flashing RTX 3060. I flashed successfully the g17 130 Watt BIOS. Oddly I don't have USB C DP output anymore. Yes I have read the thing about fresh install the driver. Used DDU and installed the driver, but sadly no output. Maybe someone could tell me how to fix. Thank you :)
     
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    I am all ears as well, doesn't work on mine after the flash either. If I know I'll need to use an external monitor for some reason I'll have to remember to re-flash the stock vbios.

    It is likely because the port layout of the Asus is different than the Blade:

    1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack (Blade has 1x)
    1x HDMI 2.0b (Blade has 1x HDMI 2.1)
    3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A (Blade has 2x Gen 2)
    1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery / G-SYNC ( Blade has 2x which is likely the issue here)

    This happens when flashing vbios of desktop cards as well, you need to make sure the card has identical ports, power connectors.

    **Edit- I tried flashing the Asus Strix G15 3060 vbios, same issue with external monitor via DP. At least this vbios doesn't have the +300 memory OC limitation which is nice.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/233524/233524
     
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    Damn, really? That is enough to prevent me from buying it. Too bad.
     
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    You can check this video, I’m not FPS player only some doom single player, but he’s definitely, to me look smooth enough as under 10ms? on 3070 version.

    Edit: yeah dave2d mentioned about high response time on his 3060 retail unit , so maybe for fast FPS shooter FHD model isn’t great.
     
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    :eek:Great for SoTR FPS with 3060 100 watt!! For 3DMark maybe you can do better on that CPU score. Maybe try on external monitor, I always get around 9,5K.
    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2131612
    Hopefully amd brings software update soon to enable OC like on desktop, but if Razer still limiting it there’s another tweak post should be made. This cpu capable doing 10k plus on Timespy CPU score.
     
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    Ryzen controller doesn’t work for OC the 5900HX, correct? I’d love to try and edit the main bios, based on the other thread here it doesn’t seem to be possible any longer?
     
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    It’s base on intel cpu, works only on 8750H, 8565u, 1067g7 I tried. For 1165g7 (book 13) isn’t yet but since it boosts great I don’t feel I need it, it already beats 1185g7 on XPS and msi bigger 14 inch cassis. No usually (I saw) that tweak it from bios, so in this case we should forget with Razer bios.
     
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    That skin though. :confused:
     
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    This guy has nice found, he figured how to change refresh rate on simple key like on legion pro? And attached on the video details I’m not testing it yet though on the way back from too early summer vacation.

    About the battery matter no comment, mine indeed bulged after 3 years gaming usage, but it’s also maybe I was idiotcareless too lazy letting it plugged on the wall 24/356 during COVID last year, 14 blade 2015 that has much worse cooling stay strong on its 5 years gaming/productivity usage.
     
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    Him talking about how he had to put money down to get a new charger sent to him as collateral really cements how Razer still is the worst in the business for rma or repair. Pretty much anyone else would send the new charger free and would only charge you if you didn’t send the old one back.
     
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    Yes I think the same I wouldn’t pay anything to replace broken charger, unlucky him back in 2018 i know and saw poeple who got free charger without have to sending the old one, but one of them is someone who active on Razer forum.
    Weiiit….damn I didn’t unpack the original charger yet lmao, still using old blade 15 one :twitchy: Good shoot reminding me on this, where’s the box where’s the box…
     
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    Better check that charger. :p

    I think moving forward more manufactures should have the 60hz shortcut. Opening up synapse everytime is not something I would do and just leave it at 165hz. :D
     
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    That's so ridiculous about the charger. Maybe it'll help that I bought Razercare Elite if anything happens to mine. I accept the risks when buying Razer, they are who they are and I can only hope nothing bad happens.

    I'm nervous that when I bought the Elite warranty it was for the Blade 15. I did it through my Razer account and entered in my serial and all the info, and it still sold me the plan for Blade 15. Customer support said they still hadn't updated the plan name for the Blade 14 and that it is the same plan. It's been over a week and I still haven't received email confirmation of the extended warranty, only got the purchase confirmation. Hopefully that'll suffice if Razer gives me grief that I never purchased the warranty.
     
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    All the times I’ve dealt with Razer support was before they had their extended warranty. So I’m not so sure. One would hope so.

    Ironically my first blade 14 I bought years ago never had any issues. So guess I’m hoping for some repeat magic on this one. :D :confused:
     
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    I wouldn’t worry about them denying us warranty cover after we paid for the warranty THEY provided on their site with a naming error. It will cause them more problems than us that is for sure…
     
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    And this is exactly the kind of mindset that is going to continue to enable Razer to do what they do. Nothing is going to change until it starts hitting them where it hurts.
     
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    I know...I know...there just isn't anything like the Blade 14 at the moment that suits my needs. As soon as a viable alternative drops I will strongly consider it.
     
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    As long they keep making sexy laptops and especially with this amd chips (not sure what the good are just following no amd no buy trend :notworthy: lol) I’m closing my eyes to the issues and keep praying not having one :bigwink:

    In fact this product impressed me every day, just play around with far cry 5, yes I know it an ancient title, but preparing for FC6. And playing on external and internal monitor things. Having MUX switch is nice hope they will update like I think recently Dell, or Alienware gaming laptop update bios to enable mux, since other blade laptops has it i hope it’s only software limitation ( me keep dreaming) .There’re some FPS bumping like before I mentioned before on SoTR, on far cry as well, like a huge. On Valhalla there isn’t much though.
    All played on 1080p ultra like Jarrod run on 3080 variant i took…with a bit afterburner polishing(175 core, 400 memory) :D
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    Vallhala internal
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    tldr: mux nice to have but isn’t necessary if you play like those titles like Valhalla (still whining for mux update though :confused:)
     
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    So it begins...my screen developed a bright white spot toward the bottom - right of the screen. I think it's a dust speck or other blemish on the sheet behind the LCD that is reflecting light. I gently used a suction cup to move the screen and the mark disappears. So it isn't a pixel issue. I emailed Razer support since this happened on day 14 after I received the laptop. The website won't let me set up a return because it claimed I am beyond the 14 days.

    So far Razer support has been very responsive. I've communicated back and forth with them over email 3 times since last night. They wanted me to do all the BS troubleshooting which of course doesn't help.

    Has anyone had success removing one of these bright spots? I don't want to disassemble the screen because I'm sure I'll make it worse. Maybe it'll go away on its own. Really stinks. Hopefully they will let me return or exchange.

    I may opt to just return it if they let me and buy the 3070 model from Amazon, which should be easy to return if something happens.

    Times like this, Dell / Alienware / Lenovo are worth it for the onsite support.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
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    I kinda wish Asus did the same thing Razer does and use aluminum across all their models. Magnesium or whatever it’s called feels like cold plastic to me. And while I’m sure it’s durable it still doesn’t feel very premium to me. Though with Razer and Asus trying to leap frog one another I’m sure future G14 models will prove impressive.

    That being said I really hope Razer fixes their keyboards. I feel like I’m in the minority, but this is not a good keyboard compared to what else is available.
     
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    I just saw g14 here on local store, well it’s better then other their laptops but still not enough to get my attention using blade since 2015 and MacBook since 2012. It’s more like Vaio Z I own before, well built look nice but wobble all around the screen. Personally I don’t like gamerish keyboard as well it types better though. They also should cover that back lid dots I’m sure on my usage I’ve to brush it cleaning the dust over times. Nice though you can put some animations when you bored or to draw attention on a meeting :D
    It’s suck, do you mean like BLB only it comes later? Yes usually here due law you can return it within 28 days like from Amazon even bought from Razer store, I just know it from CS here. But yeah return process is like nightmare compared to Amazon, fill this and that, waiting, waiting, waiting. They’re responsive though but on my experience recently they change often cs that handle one, on battery replacement for blade 15 it was like 3 or 4 cs, I ended up put that battery repair money for blade 14 cost.
     
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    The slightly larger G15 was pretty nice. For me the software is what killed it for me. I know a lot of people hate synapse, but they should loathe the Asus software then. That’s gotta be the most messed up laptop software I’ve ever seen. Synapse is much cleaner in my eyes. But it also felt kinda cheap to me. But it was priced well, so I could easily see why people would love it. So I imagine the G14 being just as nice. But the Blade 14 having a 3070 pretty much makes the G14 a no go. Hard to argue how powerful it is for how small it is.
     
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    Smack down g14 3060 and blade 14 3080, as he promised before. Performance wise we know the results but I like some points from g14, like better performance on battery and auto display refresh rate change when unplug the power, hopefully they can address it since those are software matters.

    Sorry Asus G14 :biglaugh:
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    Anyone tryed to modificate bios on blade 14 2021?
     
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    If it was base models I think the G14 would be the winner just based on price alone. But once you start going to the higher end models it’s no contest that the Blade 14 is better in almost every way. The fact the Razer runs so cool without liquid metal really speaks volumes on how much Asus needs to revamp their cooling solution. That said I hope Asus makes better G14 models in the future to try and take the performance crown.

    Competition is always good.
     
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    Yes it’s and especially on recently bestbuy deal $1350, if they put higher gpu options
    , web cam and 16:10 ratio, it’ll be more competitive.
     
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    Anyone have any information on Microsoft's website's strange Blade 14 listing?

    They have it as the 3070 for $2,799 (the 3080 MSRP). So either they have the specs listed incorrectly, or the price. If it's just the specs (and I'd get a 3080), that'd be fine. But their chat support is absolutely worthless - three times now they've said it's accurate.

    Anyone purchase from Microsoft and/or get a price adjustment? I'd love to return my Amazon order and get from MSFT with their more affordable (and arguably better) warranty.
     
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    Before the RB14 was announced (I purchased the 3060 / 1080p model) I was thinking of getting the RB15 with Intel 11th gen. I know it's available for purchase on Razer's website but oddly haven't seen any reviews...

    I'm still curious about it's performance. Does anyone know if there are any reviews out there / heard of someone with one that's posted about it?
     
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    Shows the 3080 at the correct msrp when I look. Contact Microsoft to make them aware of the mistake.
     
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    Yeah, not only that but if you have the student discount the 3080 version is $2519. With the 3 year MS warranty it is $2759. That's a great price and great warranty. I just ordered the 3070 version on Amazon for $2199. Not sure the 3070 to 3080 is worth an extra $320?
     
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