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    Blade stealth Late 2018

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Joikansai

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    If money isn’t your problem you can go with MacBook Pro for egpu setting, direct cpu connection on it made it the best graphics transfer rate egpu host laptop, even on latest Mac OS you’ll maybe have problem with nvidia driver but on boot camp it’s fine. Plus you’re paid also for their CS, I thought Dell was great but recently I knew record mobo dead on a user, 15 mobos!! is from their products and CS seemly not helpful at all.
    Do you mean Pro sign on inner back lid cover, it means not production but prototype I believe, units that’s shipped to youtubers right? Razer early batch comes always with some issue, i feel we’re in EU lucky enough having Blade later than other regions, since they’ll address early issue usually before releasing here, like ac adapter buzzing that I didn’t have at all as EU batch early adopters.
     
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    MacBook Pro's right now are not usable. They have T2 chip crashes, their keyboards are not just horrible but they are prone to failure yet again (even with Gen 3 keyboard with the silicone). I find macOS too out of touch and out of date now, it hasn't had enough feature updates like Windows has. The boot camp experience is poor as well and I would avoid it at all costs.

    Don't even get me started on the touch-bar... It is a shame really, before 2016 I'd recommend MacBook's to people, now never.
     
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    MacBook Pro 13 2018 is the most powerful host laptop on ultrabook size TB3 egpu setting, because most TB3 laptops access pch firstly before go to cpu that slower data transfer unlike MacBook Pro and some Alienware laptops, better performance is most important to me, but again their price tag is even worse than Blade stealth late 2018 which is on paper has better cpu and gpu (MX150 model), keyboard and touch is personal things, I like 3rd gen butterfly keyboard. I use now old MacBook Pro mostly on boot camp without any issues, and yes it’s 2012 model though around a year I used it for gaming as well before having Blade, idk current gen durability but Apple still support that model which is as costumer it’s a huge welcome.
     
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    I am not contesting that it may work better in eGPU due to the process but it is poor in terms of driver support which can't be contested. There are also various issues one must go through via bootcamp which is detailed in any MBP 13 2018 eGPU google search.

    Yes, there are some people may prefer Gen 3 butterfly key's which is fine, but it isn't acceptable for them to still be susceptible to such failures after 3 revisions:

    https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/macbook-pro.90/ thread among others, from die hard Apple fan's who have been using these products for over 10 years, will show you how widespread the keyboard issue problem is.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2018-mbp-15-coil-whine.2128494/unread - remember when we used to mock the XPS lineup for coil whine? Well now the MBP lineup also suffer from it.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/macbook-pro.90/ - I don't see BSOD's these days thank god, but Apple seemed to have brought them back into fashion with these KP's due to T2 chip's which remain unresolved since the iMac release.

    If Apple resolve these issues next year (with hopefully the 10nm SunnyCove) i'll definitely pick a machine up. No laptop is perfect, but Apple's laptop is sometimes £1,000 more for the equivalent specs yet it has even more serious issues than most laptops to date. There is a reason for an increase in people have switched over to Window laptops over the last 2 years

    NB As for the CPU's, the new XPS won't have a better CPU than this technically as, the MBP 13" TB's use 28W CPU's, while the XPS 13 lineup use 15W CPU's.
     
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    I meant on MacBook Pro is 13 model, 15 isn’t to compare with stealth lines. I don’t believe google, most of information on internet isn’t right, you can google egpu.io, look at user build 2018 MacBook Pro 13, the problems mostly on 15 model due dGPU but there’s also way around to make it work. Apple laptops are only for great specific market who doesn’t care the price for their works and for users who doesn’t care Mac OS environment windows laptops is no brain, students buy MacBook because they’ve parents money I believe ;) This’s all because of their increased price tag, MacBook Pro 2012 could be bought after a year released for €999 and user can use dual OS, changing hardware etc which is great, now you can forget that feature and price tag, that’s one reason why poeple migrate to windows laptop.
     
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    I had a 2016 MBP 13", the keyboard failed and I had to return it for a refund. I was hoping 2018 resolved the keyboard issues, but instead added a T2 crash issue while not resolving the keyboard issue.

    I hope your keyboard doesn't suffer from keyboard chatter - but I suspect within 3 years, your keyboard will also fail. It has a design flaw on the mechanism - similarly to how the Aero 15X suffers from the same issue.
     
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    Didn’t I mention, MacBook Pro 2012, butterfly or even Retina display wasn’t born yet, it’s still better trackpad than my Blade 15 imo and no keyboard failure. Yeah every time i went to store MacBook Pro 13 design always tempt me but again the price tag to me isn’t right for that specs, so maybe I was saved by the price lol :D
     
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    Oh, when you said "13" model, I thought you meant 13". Anything before 2016 were awesome.
     
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    Decided to see what a 1080ti hooked up with core-x would do. I left GPU at stock.
     

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    Only the 15" does that. The 13" uses U series CPUs, so all of the data goes through the PCH before going to the CPU at 4 lane PCIe3.0 speeds. Going through the PCH is true of all U series CPUs ever released by Intel (as of December 13th, 2018). The U-series CPU exposes none of its PCIe lanes directly, all of the PCIe lanes are served by the PCH.
     
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    Thanks for correcting! Man I was wrong for almost a year thought that MBP 13 is also direct cpu, now i know why ultrabooks, MBP 15 and some Alienware TB3 performs better graphically compared to laptops with dgpu like xps 15 and Blade 14, 15.
     
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    That’s 7700HQ physical score, great! Is there also balanced and gaming mode on Synapse? And is it optimus (uhd 620 works on non dGPU tasks) or only mx150 that controll the gpu?
     
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    Here’s my video 2019 Razer Blade Stealth 13 4K MX150 Unboxing and Gameplay
     
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    This is great performance and temperature playing those titles, finally stealth can running triple A without Core setting. Is that with throttlestop profile btw or synapse profile only?
     
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    Synapse profile with MAX fan speed. I did overclock the MX150 with afterburner. +175 on the core and +1000 on the memory
     
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    Is there any Synapse profil option like gaming and balanced mode, like on Blade 15?
     
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    There is a balanced mode that allows for manual fan control and there’s a battery saver mode. No high performance/ gaming mode
     
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    Notebookcheck review is just released, as expected it’s quite cool and probably most powerful ultrabook in terms gaming.
     
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    How is the fan noise on this unit while gaming using the core x? Expecting it to be lower just cooling the CPU.
     
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    Super low! I have a noise meter and will check it later tonight but its barley noticeable. Honestly my stealth on fan control manual and setting them to 5500 is still about 20% less than the 15 set at 5k as far as noise, its excellent in that regards.

    It's a great system, and overall very pleased with it.
     
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    I can confirm all those things are present in mine as well
     
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    I purchased my Razer Blade 15 base model before the release of the Razer Blade Stealth 2019 came out. I didn't know this was on the radar or I might have considered it. The MX150 just might have been good enough to run the offline robot programming software I use and a 13" portable machine is always good for the business traveler. Of course the Stealth would have required me to continue carrying an ethernet dongle as well as the HDMI dongle and USB hub. I still carry the USB hub but not the ethernet and HDMI dongles. The smaller charger would be more of a preference than the small brick I have to carry now. All in all, the new Stealth looks like one terrific laptop, and should be once the kinks are worked out.
     
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    @RobotDoctor AFAIK, you can get compatible "all in one" dongles that have Ethernet, USB-A, and HDMI. They may even passthrough USB-C PD, so you could have a very lightweight "docking station," lol.
     
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    Anyone who is in contact with Razer - do they have information regarding changes to manufacturing process of new batches to resolve those issues identified by various reviews?
     
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    Isn’t that mentioned only by notebookcheck reviewer? I believe they have their eyes on this, in Razer forum some mentioned about that coil whine, which is similiar with buzzing sound on early batch Blade 15 ac Adapter sound. Next week EU first batch seemly are delivered so we’ll know around that time.
     
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    I’ve seen those issues also reported by users on reddit and forums, so might not be just one or two bad units but batches of units at risk of such defects.
     
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    They’re literally first batch US, like on my blade 15, there was cpu thermal and ac adapter issues reported from us owners, but maybe i was lucky didn’t have those on my unit, EU first batch. I was going to order too but, after considering that my stealth v2 still great I think I’ll skip, and some retailer here the big one, MediaMarkt ( it’s like Microsoft store), offers the Blade stealth Late 2018, even with a year guarantee but they have hardware protection plan for €250 for extra 3 years that made it 4 years guarantee which is great, plus sometimes they make also great deals like free VAT, 19% (mostly all products including Apple notebooks and pc), maybe I’ll get one when it comes again.
     
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    Some EU batch (going by post of EU customer) also exhibits issue, so it seems first EU batch no different to US batch.
     
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    Is there any EU user got his unit? It was just available maybe 2 or 3 days before, yesterday saw on Razer forum one just ordered yesterday from France store. It’s a bit different manufacturer process due Keyboards layout and wall brick head form between US, EU and UK.
     
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    Yes definitely available in EU, even UK (all next day delivery)direct from Razer site - I notice it last week or beginning of this week.
     
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    No I meant users from there or EU who reported the issues. I know it’s available since their ceo said the availability on 12.12 live stream start at same Time, though I asked before CS here, EU availability on consumer hand would be on early January due holiday season, some may be lucky getting it earlier.
     
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    Yes CS told me UK availability will be January before too, but actual availability was much sooner.
     
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    Just got my RBS2019. Do not seem to have any of the issues noted in NBC Review, but the CPU does seem to have a tough time keeping up at times. I've only had it for a few hours, but I am in love.
     
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    My Stealth is awesome, I don't have any of those issues even my cinebnch score I felt was decent and I have reran several times and stays consistent.
    My only complaint is the finger prints!! My God it picks up every little touch.
     
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    It's better than the RB15 imho!

    I cannot stand the right shift key. I'd rather have halvsies up and down arrows than a tiny shift key in the wrong spot!!!
     
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    Dbrand just added the New 13.3 stealth ;-)
     
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    It isn't 2019 yet, FYI. It was released in 2018, even though you might want to feel it is as shiny and new and current as possible. ;)
     
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    :vbconfused: :vbconfused: :vbrolleyes: :vbrolleyes: :vbconfused:
    Did someone mentioned Blade stealth 2019 :vbconfused: :bigconfused: :biggrin: :bigwink:
    Yes we are still in 2018 :hi:
    Happy Xmas holidays :hi:
     
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    Pretty much everywhere (news, reviews, announcement posts except official site) it has been universally branded as the 2019 RBS, I wonder why!
     
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    They’re all wrong then, maybe because close to 2019? Literally last Blade stealth with 8550u was also not 2018 it was late 2017, with 7500u 13 was mid 2017. 2016 was 2 stealth, early v1 and late v2 on December I believe, still called blade 2016, someone name it v2 other late 2016, no one called it 2017 blade stealth.
     
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    I am not disputing if they are right or wrong but whether it was Razer who sent them the units as “2019”, strange coincidence for so many to call it the 2019.
     
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    Hey all, I originated the "2019 Blade Stealth Bible" thread over on the Insider forums. Would love it if other current owners lent their experience/advice with troubleshooting and optimization as well.

    Cheers.
     
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    I'm curious if you ran into any problems doing the SSD swap? Did you clone, or just do a fresh install of windows?
     
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    Someone brought this to my attention since I was a Blade Stealth 2019 owner. I ultimately returned mine because of the electrical buzzing noise. It only seemed to be prevalent when I was stressing the laptop. Playing games or benchmarking. It was hard to hear when gaming as the speakers would drown it out. But, after I was done it was pretty noticeable. The noise was coming from the bottom right fan if you flipped it over. I guess it was coil whine?

    Either way I returned as I bought it day one and there were no fixes at the time. So I didn't want to be stuck with it after 14 days.

    I'd post of Razer Insider but I'm taking a leave of absence since I had a terrible time getting my refund for the laptop. :eek:
     
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    Doing a fresh install was problematic for me. The issue I ran into was the Thunderbolt 3 drivers not being installed. I ended up creating a recovery drive through Windows and then upgrading the SSD (using a 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200) and then restoring it to factory default. That ended up working seamlessly.

    Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    Thanks for sharing. Did you have trouble reinstalling the MX150 drivers after a fresh install? Some folks have reported that they weren't available through Nvidia, but only by searching through files in the old windows installation.
     
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    The MX150 worked out of the box for me when I did a fresh install. Games would use the MX150 rather than the integrated graphics. I could not, however, update the Nvidia driver through the Nvidia website. I would probably grab the files from the old windows installation just in case you run into any issues.
     
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