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    HP Announces New Laptops for 2009

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Jerry Jackson, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. sgogeta4

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    The 4830 is a 128-bit GDDR3 card...
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 16, 2009
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    Yeah.. I just realized by checking notebookcheck.
     
    Purlpo, Sep 16, 2009
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    I wouldn't be as surprised to see it bundled with the 13 incher, since some netbooks/ultraportables do the same thing. Guess we'll see... but that would be a welcome trend to include them. Dell was jipping Studio 14z buyers by selling the 'Dell' branded DVD writer for $100 when you can get a great Samsung elsewhere for half that.

    But, the Dell brand works with the 'eject' key on the laptop... thats worth fifty bucks, amirite?
     
    TexasEx7, Sep 16, 2009
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    I just want to let you all know the vents in the front do not blow air out, in fact they suck the air in and then blow it out the sides and back vents.
     
    arch983, Sep 16, 2009
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  5. Serg

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    Worrying still arch983. Earlier I said those could be intake vents, but still they pose a problem location-speaking. If you put the laptop on your lap, you block those. No air venting, overheating as a result.
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  6. arch983

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    no i'm not worried. I just wanted to let everyone know that they are indeed intake vents and not probably intake vents.
     
    arch983, Sep 16, 2009
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  7. Serg

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    Oh...lol. Thanks for the clarification.
    Ok, on the front, those are INTAKE VENTS. Still they are badly positioned if you ask me. A core i7 and a 4830HD should require a good vent system, and intakes on the front i dont think they will cut it (though they do solve the problem of raising the laptop...)
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  8. arch983

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    Can't wait till these suckers get usb 3.0.
     
    arch983, Sep 16, 2009
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  9. QuadAllegory

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    "Both models offer, therefore, the resolution of 1366x768 pixels"

    I hope the 15 will also offer 1080p res or I will have to look else where.
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 16, 2009
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  10. arch983

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    the 15 inch is 1080p as second option and the 13 inch is 1600 x 900 (per the website)
     
    arch983, Sep 16, 2009
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  11. Serg

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    Right, what happened to USB 3.0?

    But, back to topic, a high res screen on this please, dont make the FAIL of placing a low res with such a high end hardware.
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  12. QuadAllegory

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    It's cool that it has 4 RAM slots. I can get 8GB RAM for much cheaper now...

    I hope those WD 1TB 2.5" drives come out soon. I want to run an Intel X25-M 80GB G2 and WD 1TB.

    My only gripe is lack of backlit keyboard. Also, I hope this thing doesn't throttle. I don't mind it getting warm/hot as my previous Dell SXPS 1640 got pretty warm and it didn't bother me at all.
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 16, 2009
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  13. Serg

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    throttle? what do you mean?

    Do you really use the BL KB? I mean, most of users end up being touch typists in some time, and not even look at the KB at all. (at least I know I am one with QWERTY KB...AZERTY makes me think)
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  14. QuadAllegory

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    I mean constrict or decrease performance on the CPU or GPU because of too much heat.

    I actually use the BL KB. I guess I'm just not a great typer. lol
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 16, 2009
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  15. Serg

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    LOL...ok. I think I am the minority in the BL KB world. I am a touch-typist, not like many. lol

    Oh, I dont know if you can constrict the CPU like that...after all, it has HT and TB, wouldnt it be illogical?
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  16. QuadAllegory

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    Other notebooks have had their performance decreased due to heat. As long as it performs to it's max and doesn't decrease I'll be happy. I don't care if it's hot with a loud fan running. I rarely stress mine full anyway. But if I do, I'm usually away from it while it's working.
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 16, 2009
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  17. Serg

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    Yes, possibly. But those CPUs did not support the changes i7 does, which to stay cooler, shuts down all cores but the ones being used. And TB allows the ones used to run higher.
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  18. sgogeta4

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    Serg you should look up the Das Keyboard and go Dvorak :p
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 16, 2009
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  19. Bartlett

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    Wow HP is really stepping up. The Envy 15 really looks like a fine notebook. Magnesium alloy and aluminum should be the preferred build of most high end notebooks rather than plastic crap.
     
    Bartlett, Sep 16, 2009
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  20. Serg

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    UGH!!! My eyes! My eyes!! What in God's name is that?!?!?!??!
    [​IMG]
    It is impossible to write on this thing, I dont even understand it!!!

    What is this?!?! Who uses such a nightmare?
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  21. Red_Dragon

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    Hm, agreed thats what im thinking :)
     
    Red_Dragon, Sep 16, 2009
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  22. WarcraftGod

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    Anyone notice that all of them don't have optical drives, lol too much envy for the macbook air
     
    WarcraftGod, Sep 16, 2009
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  23. QuadAllegory

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    The 15" doesn't either. I don't care, I've gone CD/DVD less. I stream/dl videos/movies and watch them through HDMI. iPod for music. etc.

    If I ever need to burn something for my stone age friends, I'll get the external. :D
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 16, 2009
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    What has the speed to do here?
    Speed helps the task to end faster. The multithreaded architecture on them helps, and the fact that they have HT and TB helps too.
    More threads run at the same time=more multitasking
     
    Serg, Sep 16, 2009
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  26. WarcraftGod

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    Would you say the i7 will be faster comparing to the current mobile quad cores tho?
     
    WarcraftGod, Sep 16, 2009
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    arch983, Sep 16, 2009
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  28. DoubleBlack

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    As a longtime Dell buyer, I liked what I read about the Envy 13 - until I saw the price tag. Here's to hoping Dell has something similar come October :)
     
    DoubleBlack, Sep 16, 2009
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  29. sgogeta4

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    It depends on what you're using it for. For majority of tasks, no it will be about the same. Only in a few situations such as video encoding are the i7s better.
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 16, 2009
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  30. WarcraftGod

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    ahahha ic ty
     
    WarcraftGod, Sep 16, 2009
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  31. TexasEx7

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    Quad cores in general are only faster in tasks that support multi-threading, which is less than the number of applications that utilize dual core threading afaik.
     
    TexasEx7, Sep 16, 2009
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  32. Phantom2k1

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    Anyone know if these will be available in Canada at the same time?
     
    Phantom2k1, Sep 16, 2009
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  33. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That ProBook 5310m is really starting to nag me. I like my dv5t but I don't use its power and its battery life is barely above what I use. I certainly would not mind a thinner and lighter laptop with more than two hours of battery life. Looks like a great machine.
    ATM I am debating whether the C2D is worth $200 over the Celeron.
    C2D SP9300 (2.26GHz/6MB L2/1066MHz FSB) vs Celeron SU2300 (1.20GHz/1MB L2/800MHz FSB).
    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-3929941-3955552-4021356.html

    Another nice feature of the 5310m is that it uses standard 2.5-inch hard drives . . . at first I thought it wouldn't, given the 1" thin form factor.
    Did somebody say Das Keyboard?

    Proud user since '07. :D
     
    Charles P. Jefferies, Sep 16, 2009
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  34. sgogeta4

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    I remember you mentioning that sometime (years?) ago lol on NBR!
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 16, 2009
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  35. TexasEx7

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    Why... the... hell... would... you... use...that...thing?
     
    TexasEx7, Sep 16, 2009
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  36. Judicator

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    Probably because a well trained typist is supposed to be able to type faster on a Dvorak than a standard QWERTY. After all, the original purpose of the QWERTY format was to slow down typing, because if you typed too fast on the old mechanical typewriters, they'd jam up. Dvorak was developed later, when jamming due to excessive speed became a thing of the past, placing the most commonly used letters/keys in the home row, where your fingers are normally supposed to rest while typing, thus involving a shorter travel period and thus faster typing. I'm unfortunately a trained touch typist on a standard QWERTY keyboard, and I've never bothered to learn Dvorak keys... even though I type fast enough that I could probably benefit from it.
     
    Judicator, Sep 16, 2009
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  37. coldmack

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    Depends on your usage. If they offered a dual core pentium I would have said go for that one.
     
    coldmack, Sep 16, 2009
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  38. Shin Kai

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    If the ProBook 5310m is only available with Windows 7, then it'll have to come out no sooner than the release date of Windows 7 right?

    Has HP ever in the past done pre-orders for their buisness notebooks? If so, do they allow customization on pre-orders?
     
    Shin Kai, Sep 17, 2009
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  39. Serg

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    At Chaz. Really you use a Dvorak KB?!?!?
    I cant even deal with an AZERTY! My fingers automatically find their way into the QWERTY. I recall reading that the QWERTY was designed to slow down, yes, but nowadays everyone seems to use it and is quite easy I must say (I am used to it).

    WOW! I just noticed how long are the travels between keys in my KB!!! Most words require that I move my hands a lot and I see my fingers move all around the KB...where can I find a Das Keyboard?
     
    Serg, Sep 17, 2009
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  40. sgogeta4

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    sgogeta4, Sep 17, 2009
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  41. ddmeightball

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    ddmeightball, Sep 17, 2009
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  42. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The Das Keyboard is not Dvorak, it is standard QWERTY. What separates it from the majority of keyboards are its mechanical keys and blank keys.
    http://daskeyboard.com/

    That said, I wonder if there will be a 15.6-inch version of the 5310m . . . that would make my life much harder.
     
    Charles P. Jefferies, Sep 17, 2009
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  43. Serg

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    oh...sorry, since I saw a Das Keyboard Dvorak, I thought you used that thing...I cant figure out how you can type on that...lol
    Well, today I had to deal with an AZERTY (damn french KB), and I looked like a monkey on a laptop!
    SOmething like this:
    [​IMG]
    But back to topic, are this KB backlighted or not? They do seem like Mac KB, which are BL, will these be?
     
    Serg, Sep 17, 2009
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  44. QuadAllegory

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    What were they thinking with the gloss and that ugly red logo? LOL I'm trying to get far away from glossy. :D
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 17, 2009
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    Add 'high quality audio' to its list of expectations.

    I'm wondering if this notebook is working up too much hype for its own good.
     
    TexasEx7, Sep 17, 2009
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  46. QuadAllegory

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    Isn't for me. I just won't buy the black version, and I could care less about audio quality out of a 1" laptop. External is the only way. :D
     
    QuadAllegory, Sep 17, 2009
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    It's not for me. I'm happy that finally there are PCs that can compete with the Apple (Unibody) Macbook Pros in aesthetics and construction, but under a Windows environment. Although, truthfully, I always thought that Dell or Sony would get there first; I guess not. :p
     
    Lhaewon, Sep 17, 2009
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    I first saw the gloss and thought "I could probably learn to live with it since I love black." But when I saw that red logo I said HELL NO! :D I am really hoping for a black aluminum HP ENVY 15, would look sweet!
     
    ddmeightball, Sep 17, 2009
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  49. sgogeta4

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    Dell Adamo? Personally I think the Apple isn't all that aesthetically pleasing and the construction isn't as good as the business level notebooks I've used.
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 17, 2009
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    I thought Sony would have brought unibody/aluminum to its laptops by now too. They already charge a hefty premium for the plastic they toss on their laptops so why not up their prices with aluminum... :D

    I honestly was a bit shocked with Dell when I saw them add that leather accent for the Studio XPS 13/16. Hopefully that means that they are considering something a bit different from the usual matte/glossy color options they usually give us.
     
    ddmeightball, Sep 17, 2009
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