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    Fujitsu LifeBook S6510 Review

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Jerry Jackson, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. Jerry Jackson

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    by Jerry Jackson

    Fujitsu recently announced the LifeBook S6510 14.1&quot; widescreen notebook configurable with a range of Intel Core 2 Duo processors, and is the first laptop with a 14.1-inch widescreen display that can tip the scales at only 4 pounds with the optical drive ... or 3.7 pounds, without the optical drive.

    The LifeBook S6510 notebook is available in multiple configurations, priced starting at $1,529.

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    Our pre-production review unit of the Fujitsu LifeBook S6510 has the following specs:

    • Genuine Windows Vista Business (32-bit version)
    • Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.20GHz, 4MB L2, 800MHz FSB with 64-bit
    • 2GB PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (4GB max)
    • 120GB (5400 RPM); Serial-ATA hard disk drive (shock-mounted)
    • 8xDVD-SuperMulti (+/-R Single Layer) drive supporting 9 formats
    • 14.1-inch diagonal Crystal View widescreen display (1280x800 WXGA) with LED backlight
    • Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 with up to 384MB
    • Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (802.11a/g/n)
    • Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
    • 1.3MP webcam
    • Three USB 2.0 ports
    • IEEE 1394 / FireWire port
    • VGA Monitor out port
    • Headphone / line-out port
    • Microphone in port
    • PCMCIA PC card slot
    • 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN port
    • 3-in-1 card slot reader
    • Standard Main Battery: 6-cell Lithium-ion (10.8V, 5800 mAh, 63 WHr)
    • Optional Modular Bay Battery: 6-cell Lithium-ion (10.8V, 2300 mAh, 25 WHr)
    • Dimensions: 12.36&quot; x 9.25&quot; x 0.96/1.42&quot;
    • Weight: approx. 4.0 lbs. with standard battery and optical drive, 3.7 lbs. without optical drive

    Build and Design

    At first glance the average-looking design of the LifeBook S6510 is nothing special ... but take a closer look at the radical design measuring as thin as 0.96-inches and weighing as little as 3.7 pounds, and you realize this is something truly special.

    The build is a combination of magnesium-alloy and plastics that provide amazing rigidity that you don't expect from notebooks that are less than an inch thick. The S6510 does use a latch with a simple push button type release, but the firm hinge mechanism keeps the LCD in place. Still, Fujitsu was wise enough to know that business travelers like to have a firm latch holding the notebook closed.

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    When you open the LCD lid you are immediately greeted by the glossy 14.1-inch display with a very thin bezel on the left and right sides. This makes the display look a little larger than it is in real life, and it helps reduce the size of the notebook. As you move down to the keyboard and palm rests you'll realize why Fujitsu notebooks are popular among many business professionals ... the working surfaces are comfortable and durable.

    Screen

    While the widescreen 14.1&quot; LCD is slightly thinner than other notebooks of the same size, the LCD lid is made of magnesium alloy making it much more durable than thicker LCD lids made of plastic.

    Fujitsu notebooks are well known for using some of the best displays on the market, and while the LED back lit display on the S6510 is impressive, we've seen better image quality on other Fujitsu notebooks. The horizontal viewing angles were fine for two or more people to watch a presentation or movie at the same time, and if you look directly at the monitor you'll see vivid colors and excellent contrast. Unfortunately, the vertical viewing angles did not impress, the LCD &quot;washes out&quot; when tilted slightly forward and colors begin to invert quickly as the monitor is tilted back.

    Rather than go into detail describing what we're seeing, we've posted images below to show you what the S6510's screen looks like:

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    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The keyboard is full sized (with the exception of a few shrunken keys) but lacks some of the dedicated keys you'll find on other 14-inch and larger notebooks. The keys on our pre-production unit have a good texture with excellent cushion and travel. The keys are very silent in operation the keyboard was remarkably firm across the entire surface. There was almost no keyboard flex ... amazing for a notebook this thin and light.

    The S6510 includes four additional buttons located above the keyboard that can be programed to open the applications of your choice. By default, the programmable quick launch buttons are:

    1. Notepad
    2. Calculator
    3. Default Web browser
    4. LifeBook Application Panel (saves passwords for dial-up and email)

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    The spacious touchpad provides excellent responsiveness and feels quite durable, matching the fit and finish of the rest of this notebook. The touchpad buttons provided acceptable feedback with audible clicks.

    On another positive note, the one-touch fingerprint reader does a wonderful job reading fingerprints without accidentally being triggered when you use the touchpad buttons. Once the fingerprint reader was set with my fingerprint and passwords all I needed to do was swipe my fingertip over the reader whenever an application or website asked for a password ... a nice feature if you have multiple passwords.

    Ports and Features

    While every 14-inch notebook we've reviewed comes equipped with an optical drive, they tend to be thick and heavy. The optical drive on the S6510 is not only thin, but it can be removed entirely and the modular bay can be used for either a second battery or a weight-saving module.

    The drive itself performed perfectly well for playing DVDs and CDs. There was little operational noise coming from the drive although you can certainly feel the disk spinning inside the drive thanks to the thin alloy used in the S6510's construction. The drive feels a little fragile when it is open, but this is likely because the rest of the notebook feels so rugged.

    The port selection of the S6510 is good for a notebook of this size, but we would have liked to see more than three USB ports. Most 14-inch notebooks have four USB ports, and even the tiny 7-inch Asus Eee PC squeezes three USB ports into its tiny case. Below you can view detailed images of the ports on the notebook, and here's a quick rundown of what you get:

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    Right side: Kensington lock slot, two USB 2.0 ports, modem jack, optical drive, and one USB 2.0 port. (view large image)

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    Left side: Ethernet, power jack, VGA out (hidden behind port cover), heat vent, PC card slot, and 3-in-1 card slot. (view large image)

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    Front view: WiFi on/off, FireWire port, two headphone jacks, microphone jack, and indicator lights. (view large image)

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    Rear view: A second Kensington lock slot and the main battery. (view large image)

    You also get a docking station connector on the bottom of the notebook that connects to an available port replicator. The only minor issue we had with the ports was that the rubber port cover over the VGA-out port tends to get in the way when you try and connect the notebook to an external monitor or projector.

    Performance

    The overall performance of the LifeBook S6510 is impressive for a business notebook. The range of available Intel Core 2 Duo processors (2.0GHz T7250, 2.2GHz T7500, or 2.4GHz T7700) and up to 4GB of 667MHz DDR2 RAM means the S6510 has more than enough power for everyday use. The 3DMark06 benchmarks are low, but this is due to the fact that the S6510 uses the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 which shares the notebook&rsquo;s system RAM. We aren't too concerned about the integrated graphics since this isn't a gaming machine, and the use of the X3100 means greater battery life compared to dedicated graphics.

    We typically include the wPrime synthetic benchmark with our reviews because it is a multi-threaded mathematical calculation that provides more accurate benchmarking than the old Super Pi benchmark. However, for some unknown reason we were unable to get wPrime to run on the pre-production S6510 ... and for that reason we're including the old Super Pi benchmark below:

    Super Pi comparison results:

    Notebook Time
    Fujitsu S6510 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 50s
    Dell Vostro 1500 (1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5470) 1m 17s
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500) 0m 54s
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 58s
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 1m 01s
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300) 0m 59s
    HP dv2500t (1.80GHz Intel 7100) 1m 09s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T61 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T7300) 0m 59s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo T7200) 1m 03s
    Toshiba Satellite P205-S6287 (1.73 GHz Core 2 Duo Intel T5300) 1m 24s
    Toshiba Satellite A205 (1.66GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 34s
    HP Compaq 6515b (1.6GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52) 2m 05s
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T2400) 0m 59s
    Dell Inspiron e1705 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 02s


    PCMark05 comparison results:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Fujitsu S6510 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, Intel X3100) 3,981 PCMarks
    Toshiba M205 (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 3,356 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 3,283 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO CR (1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7100, Intel X3100) 3,612 PCMarks
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Fujitsu N6410(1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks



    3DMark06 comparison results:

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    Fujitsu S6510 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, Intel X3100) 549 3DMarks
    Toshiba M205 (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 505 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 504 3DMarks
    Toshiba Tecra A9 (2.20GHz Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 130M 256MB) 932 3DMarks
    Toshiba Tecra M9 (2.20GHz Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA Quadro NVS 130M 128MB) 1,115 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO TZ (1.20GHz Core 2 Duo U7600, Intel GMA 950) 122 3DMarks
    LG R500 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS 256MB) 2,776 3DMarks
    HP dv2500t (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,055 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1420 (2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,329 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO FZ (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 532 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks
    Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks
    Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66 Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks
    Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks


    HDTune results:

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    Heat and Noise

    Thanks to the compact size and high-voltage processor, the S6510 produces a significant amount of heat. The average heat exhaust temperature for a notebook running idle is between 100 and 110 degrees Fahrenheit in at room temperature. The temperature of the exhaust coming from the S6510 was 115 degrees at idle ... and approximately 130 degrees during benchmarking. In short, the heat exhaust coming from the left side of the S6510 can become dangerously hot. This isn't a problem if you stay clear of the exhaust, but if the left side of the notebook is resting against your leg it will become uncomfortably hot.

    Despite the exhaust temperatures, the bottom of the S6510 remained quite cool to the touch. The area next to the hard drive in particular was roughly the same temperature as the rest of the notebook ... which is impressive since hard drives tend to produce a great deal of heat. The only &quot;hot spot&quot; on the bottom of the S6510 was next to the RAM, and even that was well within the tolerance limit for extended lap use.

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    Battery Life

    Battery life on the S6510 was quite impressive, due in no small part to the use of X3100 graphics rather than dedicated graphics. While browsing the web continuously using the wireless and keeping the screen at the brightest setting the battery lasted three hours and 49 minutes before the low battery warning popped up on the desktop.

    Fujitsu claims the standard 6-cell battery in the S6510 has 4.5 hours of battery life, and it may be possible to reach that number if you lower the screen brightness and turn off the wireless at least part of the time. If you need even more battery life, the optical drive can be replaced with a second 6-cell battery that extends the battery life to a total of 6.25 hours.

    If battery life is a concern for your mobile business needs the S6510 should keep you very happy with more than enough power for short road trips or airline travel.

    Conclusion

    Overall our final impressions of the Fujitsu LifeBook S6510 are overwhelmingly positive. We would have liked to see at least one more USB port and the display didn't live up to the high standards we've come to expect on Fujitsu laptops, but business professionals will be hard pressed to find a better 14-inch notebook for travel.

    Bottom line, the S6510 is the thinnest and lightest 14-inch notebook we've seen. Performance is on par with (or superior to) the competition, and the build quality is among the best you can find in the $1,500 to $2,000 price range.

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    Pros

    • Amazingly thin (for a 14-inch notebook)
    • Amazingly light (for a 14-inch notebook)
    • Solid build quality
    • Reasonable battery life even at maximum screen brightness
    • Modular bay holds optical drive, extra battery, or weight saver
    • Shock-mounted hard drive
    • Spill-resistant keyboard

    Cons

    • Poor vertical viewing angles and some light leakage on screen
    • Exhaust might be a bit too hot for some
    • Rubber cover over VGA-out port just gets in the way
    • Only three USB ports
     
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  2. JabbaJabba

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    Thanks for yet another nice review Jerry.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Thin bezels is a good thing. I can't wait until other manufacturers adopt the concept.

    In the article you stated, quote: "the first laptop with a 14.1-inch display that can tip the scales at only 4 pounds with the optical drive". I assume you were talking about the first 14.1" Widescreen notebook? Otherwise, the standard aspect 14.1" Panasonic Y7 is actually lighter.
     
  3. Jerry Jackson

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    Good catch. I actually updated the article, but for some reason the update is only showing up on the home page, not in the forum discussion. We'll have to take a look and see why it's not updating. In the meantime, the update can be seen here:

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4099
     
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    This is a really nice looking and feeling notebook. It's nice to see Fujitsu reviving the old S6000 line here in the U.S. after a 2 year hiatus. I'd be very interested in it, except for the fact it doesn't have a pointing stick (which I'm a real stickler for). Most business laptops do offer dual pointing devices in the form of a touchpad and pointing stick, but alas Fujitsu just doesn't offer that these days.
     
  5. Rahul

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    Isn't this the notebook that had a 14.1" screen in a 13.3" body? Anyways, I also like the thin bezel.
     
  6. Jerry Jackson

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    The S6510 is indeed about the same size as a 13-inch notebook ... but it isn't like Fujitsu took a 13-inch notebook and stuffed a 14-inch display in it, this is a new case design.

    Although it is significantly thinner, it isn't much smaller (in terms of width and depth) than the Toshiba M205 that I recently reviewed.
     
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    Thanks for the review Jerry. This looks like a good candidate to update my s2110. One question - how loud was the fan noise from the unit?
     
  8. John Ratsey

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    Nice review.

    There's a cluster of ports next to the mouse, which I don't like, but if it had a 1440 x 900 display option I would get very tempted to get one of my these when my next update is due.

    John
     
  9. Jerry Jackson

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    It was actually reasonably quiet, even when it was on high and pouring out tons of heat. It's not the quietest fan I've heard, but it was considerably less noisy than the fan on the Toshiba M205 that I recently reviewed.

    Bottom line, not noisy enough to be a bother in a quiet office.

    John, you are right that it would have been nice to see a 1440 x 900 display option, particularly since the integrated X3100 can support up to 1600 x 1200 resolution ... but 1280 x 800 is the only display option for this notebook.
     
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    Do you update every year John? Not a big deal, it's just that I noticed you just got your Zepto not too long ago.
     
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    This is not yet available in dear ol' USandA (from Borat :)) is it??
     
  12. Jerry Jackson

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    I remember they did say when they debuted it that it was a 13" notebook with a 14" screen. And historically, the S6000 series has always been 13.3" screen'ed notebooks.
     
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    Thats interesting, when this was first announced, I could have sworn it was to be a China only release at least for a little while.
     
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    have you ever used other fujitsu keyboards such as in their consumer models? does this actually improve on that? i found that to be a sore spot on fujitsu notebooks....that and the touchpad. anyway, how is that it only gets 6.25 with a second battery? shouldn't it be atleast getting 7-8?
     
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    It was probably released in China first, like a lot of Asian tech stuff.
     
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    Well, the Fujitsu Lifebook S7110 is a 4lbs 14" laptop, but it's not widescreen. Neither is it's slightly heavier successor, S7210. But those are european Fujitsus.

    And no DVI/HDMI?
     
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    Correct. The news bit article stated: "The Lifebook S6510 is available only in China at the moment". But that was on Nov 3, so that's a long time ago in IT calendar terms :). At the end of the day I am just happy if they get released to other markets as well, so consumers start opening their eyes to the thin bezel and hence hopefully motivating the other manufacturers to come up with something similar.

    I think what he referred to was this statement in the news bit: "The chassis is actually designed to fit a 13.3-inch screen but Fujitsu figured out how to put a 14.1-inch in the same space"

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4067

    In any event, I liked the design of the one which was first announced better, with the dark grayish color and the black keyboard.

    Regardless it is a great achievement with the screen. Now just make a 11.1" widescreen with the same thin bezel top/bottom/sides and that'll be my next ultraportable purchase. What do you say Rahulnirmal? ;)
     
  19. Jerry Jackson

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    I do believe the keyboard is much better than some of the ones we've seen on other Fujitsu notebooks ... certainly worlds better than the keyboard on the Fujitsu LifeBook V1010 we had in our office for a while.

    As for the battery life with the second battery, it won't double the battery life because the second battery isn't as powerful as the main battery (5800 mAh, 63 WHr versus 2300mAh, 25WHr) and Fujitsu didn't give us a second battery to test ... we only got the standard battery.

    In the review I mentioned the "real world" battery life we obtained from the standard battery and I gave Fujitsu's official battery life estimates for the standard battery and the second battery.
     
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    What are some other pretty 'light' 14" laptops?
     
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    Fujitsu Rocks!
     
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    I've been eyeing this notebook since it was first announced in Japan as the MG 75. I have handled the S6410 which is very nice as well but one inch smaller on screen size and not significantly lighter.

    The Japanese version had no mention of the port replicator which is a deal-breaker for me. Luckily this one does seem to support a port replicator and the port replicator has DVI!

    Only downsides ... 1280x800 screen and no trackpoint. This seems like a good competitor to the IBM T61 which while excellent, has gotten too chunky and heavy for what should be a T series machine.
     
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    Yeah, I too have been following the S6510, and for precisely the same reasons.
     
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    Nice review Jerry.

    The S6510 is essentially the S6410, but with the screen of 14" instead of 13.3". My review of the S6410 will be up in a weeks time.
     
  25. John Ratsey

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    I've been updating too frequently while trying to find the ideal notebook. The Zepto has the screen size and resolution I want but is still a bit big and heavy with below par battery life (it struggles to get to 3 hours on the battery). LED backlight is a "must" for my next purchase and I will be trying to hold onto my money until we know what the next generation of Intel hardware delivers.

    This is what I was suggesting in the last paragraph of the conclusions of my Sony G11 review. Will other manufacturers rise to the challenge?

    John
     
  26. urxtream

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    I thought the S6510 is suppose to be in black not silver. Can someone confirm this please?
     
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    What's up with the white keyboard? Is there an all-black model? Also, why aren't manufactureres making 7200rpm HDD's available as an upgrade option?
     
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    Yeah I think it did/will come in black. Check out this site:

    http://taiwan.cnet.com/cnetlife/digilife/0,2000079913,20125694,00.htm

    Sorry, it's in chinese, but that's the only site I could find pictures of the S6510 in black.
     
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    Great machine, thanks for the review. I was considering a Thinkpad T61 14.1 Widescreen but this has really grabbed my attention. The dimensions are actually the same (actually even slightly smaller) than the Sony SZ series but with a 14.1 screen instead of 13.3 - very nice and the all black version in the post above looks great. The only things missing are the trackpoint - which I love on my T60 and a larger HDD - 160GB would have been better than 120GB for the $1899 machine - too bad you can't even upgrade to a larger drive. I'll probably wait around before buying a machine but I will be keeping an eye out for these Lifebooks for sure and right now it is looking like an excellent machine and could be my #1 choice. I wonder if the keyboard is as good as the Thinkpads.
     
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    Is it not possible to upgrade the HDD yourself? Is it because of the "shock-mount"?
     
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    my computer supposedly has a "shock mounted" hd. i just upgraded it today and it is nothing more than a metal cage that you can unscrew. at least for my hp.

    anyway, i remember fujitsu being weird about 7200 rpm hds and the heat they might cause. in some of their consumer notebooks in the past, they would only put in 4200 rpm hds and tell customers that 5400 rpm creates too much heat. :rolleyes:
     
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    They might have exaggerated a bit, but I think their point was/is valid, considering the fanless thermal design.
     
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    the notebooks i was talking about was actually their 15.4" notebooks, not their ultraportable models without fans.
     
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    Here in Singapore, the S6410 is widely available in educational institutions ( not the LED backlit version though). I see no advantage of the S6510 unless it offers a higher resolution (1440 x 900).
     
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    wow so tempted to get one for university
    though id be only leavig in another 1 and half year this looks so
    tempting and considering that its a fujitsu

    thought the black eterior and the white interior is a bit reminiscent of the
    toshibas
    the white keyboard also worries e a bit and the dirt and grease on the hands being less visible given it were a black keyboard
    well guess no laptop is perfect
    thanks for another great review jerry
    cheers
     
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    Does this model have a glossy screen or a matte one?
     
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    Glossy. It is mentioned under the section Build and Design.
     
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    Thanks Jabba. I missed that. The glossy screen is a deal-breaker for me. I find it difficult and also tiring to look at glossy screens at airports, in airplanes, bright meeting rooms etc. Are these "new" LED-based glossy screens any better than conventional glossy screens in this respect?
     
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    Yes they are.

    To roughly sum it up the general benefits of LED backlit screens are: better contrast ratio, brighter colors, better power saving capabilities, and thinner screen designs.
     
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    How big is the power supply?

    One of the headphone jacks you mention on the front is actually a S-Video mini jack. It is in the tech specs, and PC Mag mentioned it being on the front in their review. If you look closely at the picture it is the one furthest to the left because there is a picture of a screen next to it.

    If I go to the review from the main page, the picture links don't work for me. Here on the forum it's fine.
     
  41. Jerry Jackson

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    The power supply brick is 5.5" x 2.1" x 1.1"

    Because a few people have asked about the "shock mounted" hard drive I'm attaching an image as well.
     

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    Jerry,

    Thanks for the hard drive picture. Will I be able to swap it with a Hitachi 7k200 on my own? Also, what is the contrast ratio of the screen? I decided to not buy another ThinkPad because of the bad screen. I wish the S6510 had a matte screen though.
     
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    You shouldn't have any difficulty replacing the hard drive (assuming you've replaced a notebook hard drive before).

    I was also a little surprised there was no matte option, but Fujitsu claims that they've determined that the vast majority of their customers want glossy screens now. Fujitsu did not provide the contrast ratio of the screen in their white paper or product sheet, and we don't have a way to accurately measure that in our offices.

    As for overall screen quality, although we include comments about screens in our reviews it's important to note that most manufacturers use LCDs from multiple OEMs during production, and even two LCDs with the same model number from the same OEM can have very different performance because of the range of tolerances in production.

    On several occasions we've had two of the same notebook in our offices and we've found that the screen on one notebook can be great and the other one can be only average. My point is, you probably don't want to base a decision on the screen alone ... simply because you might get a screen that is better or worse than you expected.
     
  44. JabbaJabba

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    Well put and very true.
     
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    That's very helpful information. Thanks Jerry.
     
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    How's the heat on the palm rest after few hours of use?
     
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    Roughly the same temperature as the bottom: mid to upper 80s in degrees Fahrenheit. Fujitsu did a great job keeping heat under control ... just watch out for the heat exhaust coming from the fan.
     
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    What would people say is Fijitsu's BEST notebook, as far as LCD quality goes? I actually prefer a lower resolution. I don't like staring at tiny text, but I just want it to look great.
     
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    Nice review Jerry !
    How do you about this laptop compares to Thinkpad T61?
    Is the chassis made of magnesium alloy or plastic? And, are there any ripples produced when pressure applied?
     
  50. Zehao

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    is this laptop suitable for my polytechic education?
    and is still good for games like dota and maple story?
    the spects that the school offer me are:

    *intel centrino duo processor technology
    -intel core 2 duo precessor T8300(2.4GHz, 3MN L2 cache, 800MHZ FSB)
    -intel GM965 express chipset
    -intel pro/wireless 4965AGN network connection

    *mircosoft windows vista business
    *fingerprint recognition technology
    *2GB DDR3 667MHz, max 4GB(after free upgrade)
    *250GB SATA HDD
    *14.1" super fine wide XGA TFT ( black lite LED)
    *1.3 mega pixel built-in camera
    *dual layer DVD super multi writer
    *V.92 modem
    *10/100/1000mbps gigabit Ethernet
    *intergrated bluetooth
    *SD/SDHC/MS/MS pro/xD card slot
    *approximately 1.7kg

    this are all the spects.
    please tell me if it's good.
    i am still learning abt computer stuffs. thanks
     
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