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    First Impressions: The New HP Laptops Discussion

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, May 6, 2010.

  1. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    This week HP launched plenty of new notebooks, including models in the dv, dm, and ENVY series, but the debuts might have left you wondering what's changed or what happened behind the scenes to spur the decisions. We talked with many product managers in New York City last month to find out how they updated many of their new models.



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  2. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    The envy 14 looks awesome. :D

    The fact that its more affordable helps too!
     
    booboo12, May 6, 2010
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  3. Phinagle

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    Heard anything more about Crossfire in the dv7?

    Specifically if it's just a Hybrid Crossfire between the IGP and discrete GPU or is it a full on Crossfire set up with two discrete GPUs?
     
    Phinagle, May 6, 2010
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  4. ChristopherAKAO4

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    I have never really been a fan of HP (consumer) laptops, but these look pretty sweet on paper. I'll be curious to see how they turn out. The whole clean design thing feels like Macbook Pro ripoff though. I do wish they had reconsider the super glossy screens while they were at it too.
     
    ChristopherAKAO4, May 6, 2010
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  5. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    The starting price is a little too high if you ask me and the 14.5" 1600x900 resolution, yuck. Too bad you can tilt the screens and convert them to portrait mode. :p

    I'm not a fan of Apple but if I wanted something that looks like a MBP i'd buy the real thing for a couple of hundred bucks more.
     
    Rodster, May 6, 2010
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  6. Linuxperiment

    Linuxperiment Notebook Consultant

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    These laptops look awesome. HP is gonna be doing well if these come out.
     
    Linuxperiment, May 6, 2010
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  7. RoyalScion

    RoyalScion Notebook Consultant

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    I'll be sold if the battery life is good, and it doesn't get too hot...
     
    RoyalScion, May 6, 2010
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    gee-gee Notebook Guru

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    gee-gee, May 6, 2010
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  9. Marengo

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    What about a new dv8?
    Does anybody know something about it?

    It would be a shame if they decided to discontinue this model.
     
    Marengo, May 6, 2010
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  10. Ahbeyvuhgehduh

    Ahbeyvuhgehduh Lost in contemplation....

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    Also agreed ... I am looking forward to NBR doing a review on one of the laptops with the amd chips....
     
    Ahbeyvuhgehduh, May 6, 2010
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  11. dietcokefiend

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    dietcokefiend, May 6, 2010
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    is that resolution low? Basically I'd want something approximating the screen on my D630 ~ 1440X900
     
    booboo12, May 6, 2010
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  13. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    HP's always look alright on paper. That's why they sell well. That, and their good looks, and the fact that they're at the forefront of everyone's minds when they're shopping for a new computer.

    Problem is, they run HOT. Once HP establishes the reputation of not burning my skin off, I'll consider them.
     
    Kierkes, May 6, 2010
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  14. LE25

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    LE25, May 6, 2010
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  15. catacylsm

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    The 17 inch rocks from what i can see.

    Pushing eyefinity out is simply amazing.
     
    catacylsm, May 7, 2010
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  16. roblen

    roblen Notebook Geek

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    14.5" 1600x900 is great if all you do is watch movies on it.
    The new tech pink design is hideous especially with the black battery sticking out.

    HP spends money trying to make them look good on the outside while not doing much improvements under the hood. Did they re-engineer the cooling systems? Is the fan gonna sound like a jet engine still?

    HP consumer notebooks suck overall. The only ones worth purchasing are their business lines.
     
    roblen, May 7, 2010
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  17. neothe0ne

    neothe0ne Notebook Consultant

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    What's wrong with 900p at 14.5"? Show me a better resolution at 14.5".
     
    neothe0ne, May 7, 2010
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  18. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    I'm not sure what you're talking about. The price is a steal, and the resolution is excellent for that screen size.
     
    L3vi, May 7, 2010
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  19. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    How many <=14'' laptops have higher than 1600x900? The only one I can think of the the Vaio Z.
     
    abaddon4180, May 7, 2010
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  20. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    I want to see a few reviews on the new AMD chips... HP is using them A LOT, Dell is going to used them and so is Acer... there must be something behind these chips... come on, review!!!
     
    yuio, May 7, 2010
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  21. vladmoney

    vladmoney Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I will definitely wait for reviews before I decide to purchase. But yes, they look good on paper
     
    vladmoney, May 7, 2010
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  22. dietcokefiend

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    Even the Voodoo blog is saying 5650 with 1GB GDDR3

    HP Envy 14 and 17 notebook: Big Changes for Less - The Next Bench

     
    dietcokefiend, May 7, 2010
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  23. synaesthetic

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    To clear up any possible confusion:

    The Envy 14 has Intel HD Graphics by default if you select a Core i3 or Core i5 processor. You can upgrade to an ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 for an additional charge. The Core i7 version of the Envy 14 has the 5650 by default.

    The Envy 17 has the Mobility Radeon 5850. None of the new Envy laptops carry the same 5830 that the current Envy 15 has.

    Hope that helps. :D
     
    synaesthetic, May 7, 2010
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  24. weiistone

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    The HP Envy 14 and Envy 17 are available on June 27 and May 19, respectively, at www.hpdirect.com. The 14 starts at $999, while the 17 starts at $1,399.

    From...

    Hands On with the HP Envy 14 and Envy 17 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

    :D because I really want the HP Envy 14....Mmmm, sexy. I was hoping for a 14-15 inch notebook to come out with specs I'd want (wishes granted, is there a santa claus? you betcha!) but a big :( because it won't be out till the end of june and I'll be off to Taiwan for business and won't be back in a while...i wonder if international shipping rates are anywhere near reasonable...
     
    weiistone, May 7, 2010
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  25. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    Well that laptops are assembled and shipped from China.
     
    MGS2392, May 7, 2010
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  26. weiistone

    weiistone Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone know if it makes them cheaper if I buy them at the source? :)
     
    weiistone, May 7, 2010
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  27. Tex

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    I'm thrilled that the dv series is getting a facelift! The terrible urban art and chrome really turned me off of the current generation. I've been shopping for a new lappy for over a year, this may finally be it.
     
    Tex, May 7, 2010
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    14 inch ENVY looks like keeper.
    Me happy ! :)
     
    IKAS V, May 7, 2010
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  29. pro101

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    Feels a bit like an infomercial, but at least a decent one.
     
    pro101, May 8, 2010
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  30. LE25

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    Look @ the videos floating around on Youtube. The base Envy 14 includes the 5650 all for only $999 , sickest deal I think yet ..
     
    LE25, May 8, 2010
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  31. Phinagle

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    More info on the new models is starting to pop up on HP.com if you search for it.

    Envy 14 and 17 PDF with specs. Definitely a Mob. HD5650 in the 14.

    http://www.hp.com/united-states/personal_again/datasheets/envy14_17_ds.pdf?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

    Specs of the dv3, dm4, dv6 and dv7 from HP Singapore:

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-4166202.html

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-4150055.html

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-4150017.html

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en/ho/WF06a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-4149935.html
     
    Phinagle, May 8, 2010
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  32. Matt Woller

    Matt Woller Notebook Evangelist

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    The Envy 17 would be appealing - if you couldn't get the MSI GX640 or Asus G73 series for $200-300 cheaper, with better components.
     
    Matt Woller, May 8, 2010
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    looks like no 5830...? ::cry::

    still 5650 is a great card for a 14inch notebook. 720p webcam? nice...
     
    LE25, May 8, 2010
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    This could be key to their success
     
    vladmoney, May 8, 2010
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  35. gee-gee

    gee-gee Notebook Guru

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    If it has a 5650 then I rather wait until they update the m11x and get that instead.
     
    gee-gee, May 8, 2010
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  36. abaddon4180

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    I thought they were only upgrading the processor in the new M11x?
     
    abaddon4180, May 8, 2010
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  37. gee-gee

    gee-gee Notebook Guru

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    Considering that the 335 is already on par with the 5650 it does not need to be upgraded.
     
    gee-gee, May 9, 2010
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  38. m8o

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    I was so excited to see this preview, thinking our reviewer's 'juice' would get them an 8740w somehow [no, I didn't expect it to be w/a a DC2 screen] so I could hear a bit more about it, but alas, no 8740w yet. :eek:
     
    m8o, May 9, 2010
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    That's the big bottleneck in that system
     
    adyingwren, May 9, 2010
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  40. LE25

    LE25 Notebook Consultant

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    the envy 14 looks to be better than the m11x in every aspect besides size and weight..
     
    LE25, May 10, 2010
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  41. Guntraitor Sagara

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    If the envy17 can get rid of that stupid white hot palmrest in ALMOST ALL of their premium laptops I'm sold. If not then Asus g73j is for me with a very cool palmrest.

    Also, The beats audio did really "beat" the Altec lansing speakers? Altec Lansing for me had the best audio quality I had ever heard on a laptop, I wonder what makes this beat thingy so special. :rolleyes:
     
    Guntraitor Sagara, May 10, 2010
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  42. weiistone

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    personally...headphones all the way ^__^
     
    weiistone, May 10, 2010
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  43. Albatross

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    The Envy 17 seems to have all the connectivity... including USB 3.0 and esata. I was on the fence about trying a G73JH, but this looks like a nice alternative.

    Does anyone know if there is a big performance hit with the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 (Envy) vs. the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 (Asus)?
     
    Albatross, May 10, 2010
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    Notebookcheck: Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List
     
    vladmoney, May 10, 2010
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  45. Phinagle

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    Just linking Notebookcheck.com suggests that you take it at face value and that's a complete fail thing to do. The Notebookcheck.com ranking of the Mob. HD5850 is borked because it averages the scores of the GDDR3 version Acer uses with the GDDR5 version in the MSI GX640 when the two perform a league apart.

    The difference between the Mob. HD5850 with GDDR5 that's in the Envy and the Mob. HD5870 is only 75Mhz on the engine clocks....which is not that much.
     
    Phinagle, May 10, 2010
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  46. Albatross

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    This discusses your point. Thanks for the response.
     
    Albatross, May 10, 2010
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    weiistone, May 10, 2010
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    Found one more which goes into better detail about the 14

    HP Envy 14
     
    weiistone, May 10, 2010
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    Albatross, May 10, 2010
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    Is the Xfire in the DV7 a future option or not?? I guess that if the option is available, the price of the DV7 will skyrocket...
     
    rjbg84, May 10, 2010
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