Dell XPS M1330

What do YOU think about this model Sirius ?

 

I prefer the Dell Latitude D630 because I think this laptop will only have a WXGA resolution screen.

 

you might be right but again, we still don't know too much about the 1330.
and I believe the 1330 will have better video card than the D630's X3100.

 

The D630 is in a completely different market sector. Its larger and weighs more, plus its got a worse graphics card.

Whats so wrong with wedge shaped chassis'? The Sony SZ seemed fine to me...(except price, but thats a different matter )

 

I like'em too ! cannot wait to see the 1330 !

 

Worse graphics card??? The D630 will have the Business 8400GS equivalent (Quadro NVS 135M). So the graphics card will be slightly worse, but close.

 

Yeah this thing looks hot but painfully expensive.

 

They just launched the SR refreshed model few weeks ago. And it only offer the X3100 card now. Do you still believe that a new refresh will follow again soon ?

 

Yep. I was disappointed the Dell Latitude D630 will only have the 135M instead of the 140M.

 

well everything looks perfect so far, my only concern is the extended battery. A ultraportable with horrible battery life and no extended battery defeats it's purpose.

 

well i'm only travelling about 1 hr with train everyday and then at the school I have enough outlets. my will would be a great card like 8400GT and no more than 5lbs

 

Yeah...
Not just the price.
I'm wondering what the battery life is going to be like..
The laptop doesn't seem to have much space for the battery..
I hope the battery isn't going to be crappy...or the upgrade (the more cells one) is going to stick out too much like the M1210's

 

freelancer - notice if there were to be an extended battery, it would not be able to stick out from the rear like the M1210 because the LCD is blocking the rear with the new design.

It cannot fit in the front either because it's simply too small. I don't know how they're going to pull this one off.

 

I keep my laptop on the coffee table. Where am I going to set my plate if my laptop isn't flat?

 

.......you shouldn't be setting a plate on a laptop in the first place. But thats ok, not my concern.

I don't think they will. Which is a pity, but I think its worth it for the sheer sexiness of the notebooks design.

 

Ah...Thanks for pointing that out...

 

woah! suddenly i am more sure that dell (Maybe) holding back on the GPU on the m1330.. Look! the Znote 6224W is a 14.1 inch notebook that has a freakin 8600M GT and its 2.3kg. At 1st i couldn't believe it as well, until i saw the site with my own eyes

Actually Credit goes to viiiper when i was reading the "Re: Santa Rosa 13"-14" with 8400 GT - LIST !!" thread.

The links he provided to check out the laptop, which btw are already on sale :
http://www.zepto.com/country/default.aspx

6224
http://uk.zepto.com/Shop/Notebook.aspx?notebookid=644

Argh... i really wish dell could stop screwing with us.. and give us a laptop with at least 8400M GT on a 13.3. I mean there are laptops thats slightly bigger with a much bigger and more powerful GPU (8600M GT).. I don't see why its impossible to put a 8400M GT in a 13.3incher. Well if theres no word on them releasing a better GPU for the M1330 by August, im definitely going with the znote 6224w laptop, slightly bigger, heavier, but much much better gpu, since i need it as im using alot of 3d softwares, game alot, and travel alot.

So what do you guys think ? is dell really holding back ? just so they can earn more money by releasing about upgrade in a few months ? Just like they did with the m1210 ?

 

Probably.
Dell is pretty greedy.
I mean, look at the price of their memory upgrades...

 

That is true with all laptop manufacturers.

 

Yeah, but it just seems like Dell's upgrades are more expensive.
Well, from what I see.

 

Well considering how thin the M1330 looks like it will be, and probably in Dell's attempts to keep the battery life okay, they scrapped a more powerful GPU. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if this machine runs pretty warm as it is.

 

I wouldn't be either but...
Look at the new 1 inch thick MBP with 8600GT and then remember that it is still a XPS ! it should be a powerful graphic tool like the older brothers

 

So true.

I thought for a XPS gaming laptop, shouldn't the GPU horsepower be their number 1 focus.. rather than having a weaker GPU but with super long lasting battery life.. they should at least offer 2 options GT & GS.

[Edited few minutes after i read some other post]
odin243 said on the other post that the GT is way too hot for any 13.3 inch, and would be impossible.
Well if thats true, there goes my dream laptop.. and back to more waiting.. and hoping.. zzz

 

Name one 13" laptop from any company with a 8600M, or even a 8400M GT for that matter. The fact is they are either too hot, or eat too much battery for a 13" laptop, period. The 14" Zepto's regular battery lasts "up to" 2.75 hours, which I'm sure is a generous figure. Under heavy use, you'll probably get just a little over an hour before the battery dies. I'd rather have a laptop that I can at least watch a 2.5 hour movie on battery power.

I think the M1330 has the most powerful GPU while maintaining acceptable heat and battery requirements.

 

you are forgetting, there is one importance to an ULTRAPORTABLE system and that is how long it can be kept away from an A/C adapter.

If they put in a bigger card, you'd be complaining about the 2 hour battery life next

If i wanted a gaming system tied to the power cord all day, I'd get the M1710.

This is meant for people who put emphasis on a stylish ultraportable that can play games like HL2, CSS, Diablo 2, WoW and other games fine. And trust me, it will play it fine.

 

Nope. HP, ASUS and Lenovo are just as expensive.

 

i thought 13"-14" are thin-n-lights and not ultraportables..

 

Concerning battery life - the battery life of the old M1210 with a Go 7400 and a 9-cell battery was approximately 4.5 hours.

You can expect similar or BETTER battery life with the M1330, depending on how you customize it. The increased power consumption of Santa Rosa processors cancels out any improvements in power efficiency in the new chipset. The 8400M GS probably consumes more power than the Go 7400, but not much more. Optional LED backlighting and SSD will increase battery life significantly.

 

FREN, where will this 9 cell fit? That's the issue, not whether or not a 9 cell will have good battery life.

 

haha yeah, you're right. But either way!!!

 

OMG ! Will the 1330 have all of these ??

 

yeah... didn't you read?

 

I know this may seem like "Im arguing for the sake of arguing" kinda thing, but i shall say 1 last thing.. and that is nothing is 100% certain.

Unless your a systems engineer working for one of the major companies and have worked on the latest GPUs for upcoming laptops, i won't take your word as facts. <-- (No offense what so ever, so please don't quote me )

Anyways I'm sure before dell released its M1210, everyone was saying the same thing like it would be impossible to fit a GPU like 7400go into something that small. So until some official word states its impossible, i will completely believe that 8400M GT will be impossible in a 13.3 inch notebook.

But hey its just my opinion and im not beating the m1330 down or anything, in fact i might get this or the zepto 6224w. And i still think its a great laptop, only set back is GPU(to me).

 

I just changed my whole "look" and from now on I'll pay much more attn to specs

* 13.3-inch screen, configurable with LED backlight!
* Core 2 Duo processor (up to 2.4GHz), Santa Rosa chipset (965PM/GM)
* 32GB SSD drive or spinning-platter drive options up to 250GB
* Optional NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS / 128MB
* Integrated 2 megapixel webcam (VGA only on LED-backlit display)
* Weight starts at 4 pounds

umm.. i'm wondering.. why would be so strange to put in the GT card which is only 50-100 MHz extra in clock speeds as in this pic, and wouldn't be strange at all to have a 2.4 processor ? what would increase the heat more ? the 100MHz extra from the GT or the 400MHz extra from the processor ?

 

Think the GS is 64bit but the GT is 128bit, the bigger bandwidth consumes more power and produces more heat. Also, the processors from the C2D family all pretty much generate the same amount of heat unless i'm very mistaken.

 

2.0 and 2.4 same heat ? i think you're at least little mistaken !

 

Will there be a port-replicator for the M1330 (the M1210 does not have one)?

I am surprised they do not add this simple port. I travel with my laptop and dock several times a day (external monitor, printer, sound, USB devices).

If the M1330 still lacks this, guess I will have to go with the Sony SZ4 which can handle a nice port-replicator

 

I agree a port replicator would be very nice, but the M1330 is not targeted at business customers, where as the Sony SZ line is targeted at business customers (the SZ comes with Vista Business). So I think it will be highly unlikely to see a port replicator on the M1330.

 

It was a joke .

 

2.0G and 2.4G generate the same heat

same W

 

don't think so

 

It will be pretty similar between the two, maybe a couple of degrees celcius and a watt or two higher. Nothing seriously significant.

The GT has higher bandwidth memory plus higher clockspeeds, and thus it generates much more heat than the GS.

 

Don't you think its a bit ludicrous to argue over specs that haven't even been confirmed?


Don't get me wrong, i hope they are accurate, i'd love to get this notebook (if battery life and price are reasonable).

 

Most likely, it is more like Intel measures the TDP for the highest processor (T7700) and then uses that rating for all of them (T7300, T7100). That way, manufacturers can build one cooling solution and KNOW it will be sufficient regardless of processor dropped in upon an order or a future upgrade.

 

now THIS is a pro explanation ! good thought

 

If any of you guys are wondering about the m1330 battery. I found some information on this page and it states that the m1330 will have 3 choices of battery :

Battery: 4-cell (37 WHr), 6-cell (56 WHr) gold High Capacity 9-cell (85WHr) Li-Ion Battery Options

I don't know how reliable this site is, but you can check it out at
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fdellreview.net%2f2007%2f06%2f06%2fdell-xps-m1330%2f#more-36

If this is old news.. Just ignore it

 

Sorry, but that site was taken down because they stole articles...some of which were from NBR.

 

Any chance Dell changes the design so that it includes a rotating webcam like the 1210? I probably won't buy it if does not come with that option.

 

no chance for it

 

Bummer. Thank you though.