Dell Latitude D630 and D830 Coming in April

Explain each of these terms in a way a complete idiot like me can understand it.

 

Thats why I confused, I didn't know about Centrino Duo

True but Dell factory installs it under warranty, not sure if any others do.

 

It's not for Vista ReadyBoost, but it can be used for ReadyBoost if you do have Vista. But it's tied directly into the hardware and used by the processor, so it can be used by an OS at bootup to really speed up boot times. I'm not sure if it can be used as extra processor cache or not.

 

Intel Robson or TurboMemory is an amount of flash memory, connected through a PCI Express mini card (the same type of card as the Wireless LAN module). It's not a cache for the processor, but a cache for frequently used files or parts of files.

Vista does something similar with ReadyBoost, storing frequently needed data on a USB stick, so the harddrive is not needed when reading these files. USB sticks have much faster random access times than a harddrive, and PCI Express is probably a lot faster still. In a notebook there is the added benefit of not having to spin up the harddrive, thus saving power.

Because a USB stick can be removed, Vista ReadyBoost does not cache the files used for booting. Intel Turbo Memory can't be removed, at least not accidently, so you can boot your machine from the flash memory, and have 1GB of your most frequently used operating system files on there.

From what I've heard Turbo Memory will be supported on Vista and MacOSX but not on XP.

 

D830 has Santa Rosa, ExpressCard, and doesn't need Robson if it has SSD.

So the only thing it doesn't have is DVI, and I am not aware of any other Santa Rosa notebook that does have DVI, ExpressCard, and either Robson or SSD.

 

Does D630 use Expresscard? Got built in webcam?

Is the screen better than D620?

Where is Dell going to release it?

 

I am only interested in webcams that rotate. In my opinion, non-rotating webcams are useless.

 

I'm only interested in webcams that don't rotate, rotating webcams are ugly

No seriously, I prefer to have a tiny hole on my screen than a huge rotating webcam because I almost never use it and when I do I don't need very much (aka messenger) If I'd want better, I would buy a notebook webcam and have much better quality.

No offense, just my opinion

 

None taken.

 

The Dell Latitude D630 and the Lenovo Thinkpad T61 will arrive in one more week.

 

Will we be able to order them online immediately?

 

Probably not.

 

hooray, official specs for the D630 list Intel Turbo Memory as an option

 

link??????

 

Dell will offer 14.1-inch and 15.4-inch Latitude D531, as well as 14.1-inch Latitude D631 business notebooks, both featuring the latest AMD M690T chipset, dual core AMD Turion 64 X2 processors and integrated ATI Radeon X1270 graphics. The new notebooks will provide a choice of a standard HDD, solid-state drive and hybrid hard drive, while the D631 will additionally have an optional wireless N connection, according to our retail sources in Europe.

Dell Latitude D531 will come with an option of a 14.1-inch (1280 x 800) or 15.4-inch (1280 x 800 or optional 1440 x 900) widescreen display. The Latitude D631 has a 14.1-inch widescreen (1280×800 or 1440×900). Both notebooks support up to 4GB of DDR2 system memory and provide Gigabit Ethernet, Bluetooth and 56k modem connections, as well as Wi-Fi connectivity.

The new AMD-powered Dell notebooks will incorporate a Combo or DVD burner drive, four USB ports, a Firewire, a VGA output, a COM port and a PCMICA card slot in each model.

Dell Latitude D531 and D631 weigh approximately up to 5lbs and up to 4.4lbs respectively and look exactly or very similar to current Intel-powered D520 and D620 models, according to Laptoping’s sources.

Both notebooks will ship with preinstalled Windows Vista.

Currently we have no information on their pricing and availability date.

 

I did a google search above and there is a D631 coming out ???

Where I get this info: http://laptoping.com/dell-latitude-d531-d631.html

 

Yeah, I'd expect it to come out around the same time as ATi releases their new stuff. The D531 is using the x1270 (although I've never heard of the x1270), so I'd imagine that Dell will want to keep things "all in the family" with AMD/ATi. The 600 series is a little more high end, though, and many of the buyers want dedicated graphics, so they're probably waiting for the true x2000 series GPUs from ATi (since the x2300 is not DX10) or newer FireGLs.

 

I thought this site might be helpful to get some views on the 3 upcoming latitude models which are D531, D630 and D830. You could see pics and 3D views of the laptop.

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/latit_performance?c=my&cs=mybsd1&l=en&s=bsd

 

That is a good link. Thanks!

I notice its RM. Thats Ringgit Malaysia.

The Dell laptops are assemble in Malaysia, but most of the component are not built there.

 

I dont get this below on the D630 that I see on Dell website. There is a USB interface inside the PCMCIA slot?


Supports 34mm ExpressCard via USB interface through PCMCIA adapter

 

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. If it does support Expresscard as well as PCMCIA without an adapter, that is one nifty feature if I do say so myself.

 

The Dell Latitude D630 only has a NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M. I am not sure what that means. I know the D830 has the Quadro NVS 135M and 140M options, so the 140M is probably better. I am disappointed with Dell using inferior video cards in the Dell Latitude D6xx series. Similar 14.1" laptops like the Lenovo Thinkpad T61 have the 140M.
Sorry for the rant. I think Dell made a poor choice using the 135M in the Dell Latitude D630.

 

At least there's not a big price disparity. The larger difference between the D620 and D630 on the Malaysian site can probably be attributed to the base option of the T5500 (1.66GHz) on the D620 versus the T7100 (1.8GHz) with the D630. I mean the D820 and D830 are less than 5% different in price.

 

For the video card, one thing on the d620 and d820 was passive vs active cooling. If it's the same thing, probably that they just don't want to add another fan on the D620/630 (for room available or whatever reason)... quite sad

 

Dont forget this is a business machine. You want such a good video card for playing games on a business machine?

I notice you get 4.5 lb only if you choose the 4 cell battery with travel light module, which is no cd.

If you have a 6 cell battery and a cd on it, then its 5.1 lb. Thats no different than any other laptop weight.

0.5 lb of something doesnt weight much.

 

It looks SOOOOOOOOO pretty !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The Dutch Dell website now also lists the new models at the Small Business section. In addition, there's also an option for a "120GB 5,400rpm Hybrid Hard Drive". Anyone ever seen this option offered anywhere else? I wonder how it compares to Robson...

 

Yeah, I have seen that too (I am also from the Netherlands).

 

hmmmmm, very stupid from dell.. nvs 140m and 135m gpus... so they can claim that they can get 5 hours battery life on 4cell battery,.. oh cmooooooon =/

 

Dell used lower-end graphics on D620 and D820 too so its no shocker that they sticked with the tried-and-true.
NVS 135M should be the 8400M-GS and 140M 8400M-GT, which correspond to the NVS 110M (Go7300) and NVS 120M (Go7400) in D620/D820. I think its understandable if customers want a machine that is cool and quiet, they won't cram a higher-end GPU-s in their business lappies.

 

Has anybody found out how to add a hybrid hard drive to the d630 or how to add the intel turbo cache/robson to it (in the US)?

 

Hi, I placed an order for the D630 about 3 days ago; it's in production at this point. My question is.)
1) The maximum memory speed Dell website offers and most others only sells pc2-5300 (667 Mhz) ram. I wonder if the D630 support the newer faster memory pc2-6400 (800 Mhz). I called "cough" Dell customer service (sales and technical support) and they keep repeating "The system supports maximum memory speed of 667mhz"

2)What is the maximum capacity of memory it could hold. Dell online documentations says it could support up to 8GB; but doesn't windows Vista Business 32bit support only a maximum of 4GB (due to 32 bit coding size i think).

3) What is expresscard, is it the same as PCI-Express. (its in this forum but i was lazy to read all 14 pages)

If you know the answers to these questions. Please reply. Thanks.

 

Odd. The website clearly says; "Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7100 (1.80GHz) 2M L2 Cache, 800MHz Dual Core"

I do not think any laptop can hold 8 GB of ram?? Can a laptop hold 8GB of ram??

Which slot do you need for an Intel Turbo Memory card? Can the Dell Latitude D630 support it?

 

I'm no expert on computer. I took 3 programming class, primary C++. But i wish the response could be a little more helpful.

1) for question 1 i was asking for the memory speed, not the processor. Or if you are saying that since the motherboard is 800mhz, then it should be obvious that it would support 800mhz memory? If its a sarcastic joke, then i don't get it. (btw i got the T7500)

2) i asked this question because the user manuel at Dell.com http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd630/en/HN566en0/specs.htm#wp1102222 (my question was could it?)

3) I think your misundersting my question. I was asking what is an "expresscard".

4) Is the information on this forum accuate as to whether the D630 would support a video card (Nivida NVS.....). The online manuel does not state whether an upgrade is support or not.

 

1. Why do you want 800MHz RAM? It will undoubtly be more expensive and most likely provide little to no performance increase. The Core 2 Duo is not as memory bandwidth as the Pentium 4 by a long shot. 667MHz RAM is more than enough to satisfy the C2D.

2. 4GB. 32-bit Vista will only "see" 3.24GB.

3. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=44753
Just read the first post.

 

1) No one supports DDR2-800. It is not Dell's fault, or HP's fault or anyone's fault except Intel's. Santa Rosa does not support anything above DDR2-667. Even so, DDR2-667 is enough to saturate the FSB bandwidth 95-99% of the time. moving to DDR2-800 would have increased performance minimally so there's little to worry about there.

2) I'm not sure about the memory capacity issue. I haven't heard of availability of 4GB SO-DIMMs yet. Chances they're stating raw numbers for the 965 chipset (on the desktop, they indeed do support up to 8GB) - I don't think the mobile implementation will support 8GB.

3) ExpressCard's main advantage over the existing PCMCIA CardBus is is increase in available bandwidth due to being connected over a PCI-e x1 or USB 2.0, as opposed to sharing the PCI bus bandwidth. The disadvantage is most peripherals are still on the PCMCIA standard, so you may not be able to use existing accessories.

 

The reason why i'm asking for information on 800mhz ram is because most websites (dell.com, crucial.com) i read recommeded that i should get the memory speed to match the FBS which is 800mhz. Of course, my sense is more than my money, so i'm not in a long while buying 800mhz ram (pc2-6400).

I recently ordered a pair of 2gb 667 mhz memory at outpost.com (fry's) which total 4gb.

I was curious thats all. Anywho thanks for all the info.... i will be going now.

 

I think that might have been back in the day when dual channel either didn't exist or more for older platforms. At that time, running the RAM synchronously with the FSB got you the best performance, usually by quite a margin.

Nowadays, that doesn't matter so much. Technically, the dual channel DDR2-667 memory is providing 10.67GB/s of theoretical bandwidth while the FSB, at 800MHz, is only providing 6.4GB/s of bandwidth. So for the most part that memory speed will be able to saturate the available FSB bandwidth.

 

Back, i'm wondering where did you find this info

"Technically, the dual channel DDR2-667 memory is providing 10.67GB/s of theoretical bandwidth while the FSB, at 800MHz, is only providing 6.4GB/s of bandwidth. So for the most part that memory speed will be able to saturate the available FSB bandwidth."

I tried looking on the web, but found useless block diagrams. If you have a link or a pdf of the specifications, could you post it.

 

Oh, it's actually just calculations.

FSB: 800MHz * 64 bits / 8bits/byte = 6.4GB/s
RAM: 667MHz * 2 (dual channel) * 64bits / 8bits/byte = 10.67GB/s

 

Hi,

I got my laptop the other day. Anyways, i have a curious question.

Why is the price difference between core 2 duo T7700 and T7500 is such significant increase. The increase from T7500 (2.20 Ghz) to T7700 (2.40Ghz). Is there an advantage of buying the T7700 besides the speed? Is there a major difference in speed between 2.20 ghz to 2.40ghz?

One more question. Anyone heard anything about the nvidia quadro nvs 135m yet? 3D mark scores? Is it based on DX10? Any link that has more information? Thanks.