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    Alienware m17x and m15x Gaming Laptops Unveiled at NYC Event

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Andrew Baxter, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    All I have to say is that after seeing all the excitement for these two notebooks, Alienware had better have sufficient stock. Customers will already be anxious to get their notebook since they have to wait until next year, and a delay would be very bad.
     
  2. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    Just one quick question for you guys.
    If the sager will offer the samething, then in what thing Alienware will be better than Sager ?
     
  3. InFeXiOn

    InFeXiOn Notebook Geek

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    Those super cool cases. Duh? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    I think look is based on opinion. I'm talking about the specs.
     
  5. m1 grant

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    Yes I would also love to know if any other manufacturers have any news on their 8800 laptops.
     
  6. swoley2k

    swoley2k Notebook Deity

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    Im not sure if this has been mentioned already but:

    "Notebooks with the new GPUs will soon be available for order from notebook makers worldwide including Alienware, Eurocom, Gateway, and Sager in North America; AIRIS, Chiligreen, Cizmo, Cybersystem, Ergo, Nexoc, Novatech, Plaisio, Rock, and XXODD in Europe; MouseComputer in Japan; and Pioneer Computers in Australia."

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1195471131866.html
     
  7. Patrick Y.

    Patrick Y. Go Newbs! NBR Reviewer

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    Hmmm... I don't know how I'm "light years behind others" by just being skeptical about the fact that you can fit 8800m in a 15inch.

    After all, I don't have the luxury of spending hours watching out for new a toy :rolleyes: I wish I have your kind of time but I don't.
     
  8. TSXGirl

    TSXGirl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alienware wouldn't let me build a m9750 with a 8700M GT graphics card with XP. Only with Vista. I'm guessing it will be the same with this card.

    (You can only get XP if you order the dual 7950 GTX cards.)
     
  9. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    i think its because xp doesn't have support for dx10...i think. as for pricing....it was around 2100ish with 2.2ghz processor, 1gb ram, 8800gtx, 120gb hdd (probably 5400)...etc. it starts at 1399 plus 500 for 8800gtx, probably 50 for dvdrw, etc....you should be fine...maybe + or - $100, mostly +
     
  10. Thomas

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    Whats the difference between Dual 8800Ms & Dual 8800Ms in SLi mode? :confused:
     
  11. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    same thing...since to run dual you have to have sli mode....no difference between having dual 8800m or dual 8800m in sli...same
     
  12. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Well, technically if you had dual 8800ms and not running them in SLI mode, it's basically having 1 8800m and one very expensive video card doing nothing.
     
  13. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    true true...but what kind of idiotic notebook maker would put two 8800s in "non sli"???
     
  14. The Forerunner

    The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso

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    WEll technically if you tweak it so that the gpus handle different aspects of the graphics it wouldn't be the typical sli.
     
  15. unnamed01

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    Well unlike many NBR members I'm actually glad its coming out in Q1 b/c it'll let me cash in during x-mas and lunar new year,,,even though technically I'm not gaining any money xD
     
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    now that i have a nice part time job that pays 16/h... i think i am going to have to part with my m5500 soon in favor of the new m15x... that thing is a beast.
     
  17. dtwn

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    I know, but Thomas asked anyway. So I figured he deserved an answer. :D
    Sometimes users switch SLI off when testing or conserving battery power too.
     
  18. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    who took those small vids of the notebook while he was touhing it? can that person tell us if there was any keyboard flex?
     
  19. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    No, you just haven't a clue about notebooks in general.

    Well, you have the luxury of spending hours making ignorant posts around... :rolleyes:

    Here is another of your brilliant posts that I just come across in the WNSIB section....

    Yes, you are light years behind the others as I already said. :eek:


    After all, I really hope that they will finally open kindergartens in your country, so you can spend your precious time there. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Sogarth

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    Just figured I'd point out, for those people who are cursing NVIDIA for their delays on the 8800M GTX chips until 2008 Q1. The G92s are currently massively understocked for the desktop 8800 GTs, and I'd imagine that's where all of the current manufacturing is going. Since the 8800 GTs were released before the 8800M GTXs, they're prioritizing those first. As it is, if you look around for a 8800 GT right now, you'll notice that they're almost all being sold over MSRP....
     
  21. gilo

    gilo Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    The "15 inch laptop" is as big as a regular 17" and twice as thick .

    They could put a 12" screen in there and call it a 12" gaming machine just as well .
     
  22. BuleGila

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    Been said many times, but still bears repeating, the keyboard looks amazing.

    My main (only) gripe is the price though. Sure, I know it's probably worth the price tag considering all it's offering, but it's too much money for me. I think I read a post on here that it's about $5k to spec it out for top performance. 5k?!?! I'll have to pass.
     
  23. Macpod

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    a shame that the 17inch version is a step backwards in design and looks twice as thick as the m9750
     
  24. ez2remember

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    It's all great news but now alienware has started the ball rolling I'm sure others will follow suit and do 8800GTX in 15" models, preferably in a much smaller chassis.

    Rock has already got a 8800GTX available now for sale:
    http://www.rockdirect.com/viewNotebook.php?pName=XTREME 770

    I suspected they would struggle putting 35w graphics into a 15". They made the chassis thicker than many 17" models... I suppose you have to compromise somewhere. I just hope it's not 8lbs-9lbs!
     
  25. obigal

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    It doesn't look like there is any DVI/VGA out ports in any of the pictures that I have seen so far (maybe there's a hidden door in the back?), they do appear to have HDMI out ports on thier right sides though (nice) and the m15x seems to be lacking a couple of nice features that the m17x has (most notably what looks like firewire, e-sata, s-video out) and those 3 usb ports will fill up fast but I still want one anyways :D
     
  26. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    You can buy a HDMI/DVI adaptor. DVI and HDMI are the same except HDMI carries sound too so all you need is an adaptor.
     
  27. Patrick Y.

    Patrick Y. Go Newbs! NBR Reviewer

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    ummm... I'm sorry?

    I don't know what I have done to cause you to be so rude.

    Should start insulting just because you don't know that there is different battery modes in Vista? I guess you're even more behind as the preview version of Vista dates back light years ago. Or, should I start insulting you for your lack of manner?

    I'm truly disappointed.... I thought someone older than me would be more polite. Of course, I was wrong about older people having better manner.

    Perhaps a idiot manufacturer placed WUXGA in 15 inch laptop, but the fact stands that it's very rare.
     
  28. Sogarth

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    I figured I'd respond to this one: it's something that both AMD/ATI and NVIDIA have been pushing. PowerXpress for the former, Hybrid SLI for the latter.
     
  29. Dreamer

    Dreamer The Bad Boy

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    Plain and simple, you make stupid ignorant posts and mislead people every single day...

    You can't, since I have never talked about Vista in that thread to begin with, and don't get me started on all the ignorant posts you made there...

    Btw, did you learn the difference between plastic and metal?

    Probably but when you have to deal with 13-year-olds who post because they have nothing else to do.... err... sorry, don't expect politeness.

    I'm truly disappointed... You haven't learned anything since the last time I met you... Anyway, that's your parents' problem not mine. Now go and find other 13-year-olds like you to play with them...

    Pephaps, an idiot forum member doesn't know that five major companies offer 15.4" notebooks with WUXGA screens, and it's been so for a while. And, there is nothing wrong with that resolution, actually it's quite useful for certain tasks... Of course, you haven't a clue what I'm taking about....
     
  30. MrWhereItsAt

    MrWhereItsAt Notebook Evangelist

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    Dayamn. I'm starting to seriously consider getting one of these, or a competitors' equivalent by the middle of next year. Even though I just got my Asus G1S in June!

    It's a fine idea to me to announce these things now - right on the launch date for the new cards. And it should surely help those of you needing a new laptop plan when to do so. If they had waited until Jan to say that they were releasing within 2 months, I can just bet there'd be a lot of complaints from those who'd given up and bought something inferior by then - who go on to protest Alienware having sat on the news for months! This way you know something good is coming, when it's coming, roughly how much it will cost and even a little bit about how good it really is. Foreknowledge is good.
     
  31. kem99

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    This probably falls into the "we don't know yet" category but with the mobile Penryn CPU's scheduled to come out in January and the M17x and M15x scheduled to come out in "Q1 2008", does anyone know if the Penryn CPU's will be available? It would seem to make some sense but all I've seen to date have been references to Extreme C2D CPU's.
     
  32. Redline

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    Wellllll, now thats quite an allegation. Alienware has done it, Dell has had it as an option on their 15.4" notebooks (Latitudes have had it forever, the XPS Gen1 had it, the Inspiron 6000 had it), HP has it available on their workstation 15.4"ers, the ThinkPad T61p has it as an option, and there are others. Apparently, Dell/Alienware, HP, and Lenovo are all idiots now.
     
  33. mrXniick

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    There is a market for WUXGA in a 15 inch laptop. I have one, and personally would never go back to anything lower... so alienware releaseing this new one makes me quite happy.

    Dont post about things you don't know much about. There Is a demand for this, esp with such a powerful graphics card, 1920x 1200 will be a welcome addition to most gamers, since the 8800gtx should be able to run a good amount of games in that res.
     
  34. Johnny T

    Johnny T Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well...Patrick Y. As a 13yr old would say...you just got pwnd... ;)
     
  35. Matthiasa4

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    lol...
    Lets just have it about the new pc's :s

    I think Alienware 'bought' some ppl from apple...
    And just one question to you andrew: did u see the M17X in a black edition or something (like the m15x)... I like the black...
     
  36. sleey0

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    Yup, if I were you Patrick - I wouldn't post on this thread anymore.

    You are just digging yourself into a big hole you aren't going to be able to get out of.

    As they said, take your pwnage and move on.......
     
  37. Matthiasa4

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    And dont forget to talk about the new alienwares :p

    I really want to know what the 2 x 8800m-GTX will give as 3DMARK06 in the m17x... 18k?
     
  38. tygtyg

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    Thanks Andrew for the Info. I have 2 questions:,15x and 17x. Since they all can hold the 8800GTX, ill be goign w. thj

    1.Is the C2D Extreme the new processor type that is also coming out in Q1 2008.
    2.I think Andrew may be able to answer this one: Is the 15incher Heavy.? Im looking to but a lappy in the first half of 2008. Im between 5791 15x and 17x. Since they all can hold the 8800GTX, ill be goign wit hthe lightest one. Would you think the 15x to be lighter than the 5791?
     
  39. Patrick Y.

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    Ok... I admit defeat and will move on in life. :)

    And the lesson I learned.... never argue with adults because they love to insult you as much as possible.

    edit: oh yeah... another thing I learned: adults have really sensitive pride and they won't admit that they're wrong about anything. Last time I talked to dreamer he clearly had no idea that there are different battery modes in Vista. Of course, unlike dreamer, I won't waste time digging through past posts to prove that. Well, I guess I'll spend more time with the 13 year olds that at least don't have foul manner.
     
  40. ARGH

    ARGH Notebook Deity

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    bump :D especially for the 17" model.
     
  41. Phritz

    Phritz Space Artist

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    He wasn't touching it, he was stroking it... I'm sure if theres ne1 who has an m9750 and gets one of these that they'll miss the lovely paint job the m9750 has...

    Alienware has huge shoes to fill with these lappies, I'm betting that they won't be able to surpass the m9750 for the overall balance in price, performance and portability...
     
  42. sleey0

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    Too funny... I didn't even have to check your sig after reading your post - I just knew you had a 9750 :)
     
  43. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    what makes you say that?
     
  44. IWantMyMTV

    IWantMyMTV Notebook Evangelist

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    Phritz,

    My Toshiba 5205-S119 has a 15" 1600x1200 screen with 240 GB storage, DVD Multi drive, P4M 2.2 GHz, 512MB ram, Go 5600 FX, cPad, subLCD that says 'Hello' when I turn it on, 'Goodbye' when I turn it off and even a subwoofer and Harman/Kardon Sound System...it will play Half-Life 2 and Far Cry at 800x600 on medium (read DX8) options and it's worth about $400...all that for $400...

    Try beating that value with your m9750...

    Interesting that the newest generation of computers will never live up to the value of the previous generation especially considering how well all high end electronic devices hold their value (written with lots of sarcasm)...

    Face it...sli'd 7950s are yesterday's computer now...if you want real value, I'll trade you my 5205 straight up for your m9750...

    PS. And the whole 5205 only weighs about 9 lbs and the battery lasts for about 90-120 minutes depending on use...in fact, I can remove the 80GB drive in the StyleBay (leaving me with 160GB) and plug in an additional battery for 150-180 minutes battery life...NOW THAT'S VALUE...sure you don't want to trade?
     
  45. nhat2991

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    Anyone have any ideas how heavy can the adapters for the m17x are?
    I don't thiknk that the adapter can be any lighter than the M1730's.
     
  46. sleey0

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    Nope, that power brick will be AT LEAST 250 watts - aka huge brick :)
     
  47. ARGH

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    the m1730 uses more power than the m17x because it has a physics card so the adapters will be the same i bet.
     
  48. ShortGreenGoat

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    Well I'm looking for advice, I'm after a laptop and would really like to get it before Christmas, I've been going over specs on the m9750 (t7200, 2gb ram, 8700m or dual 8700m (haven't decided yet), 2x 80gb HD) And my real price limit is about £1,400 ($2,800 at todays exchange rate) So is it worth going with the m9750? or waiting for the m15x/m17x? Because i could end up waiting a long time, missing out on any Christmas offers and being sorely disappointed by the pricing/spec for my money/shiny effect and fingerprints (i've heard great things about the material of the m9750). Or getting the m9750, and then these laptops coming out and being cheap compared to it and having better specs.

    Also anyone know about the heating on these things? Again heard great things about the m9750, and ok-ish things about the m5550, and with this being made about of a similar material to the m5550 is it likely to suffer from the same heating problems? (Heard from friends the whole m5550 can warm up quite a bit)

    So anyone heard any info on prcing for something around a t7200/400, 8800GTS, 2gb RAM, and atleast a 120gb 7200rpm HD? Because i would rather know sooner rather then later (hoping to order at the start of December if buying the m9750
     
  49. kem99

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    Well, if you are in the UK, rockdirect.com is taking orders for their version of the Sager 5791 with 1 8800m GPU for delivery by Christmas but its a little above your budget unless you wanted to go for the 7950 or 8700 now and upgrade later, though I think that pricing was for the 8800m GTX. Other Clevo resellers have also indicated that they will be taking orders in December for a projected delivery by the end of the month.

    I've also been on the fence for awhile on whether to order the m9750. I've decided to take my chances with waiting until at least January to see where we are with the availability of the 8800m GPU's and perhaps the mobile Penryn CPU's as well. With that said, I don't think the price of the m9750 is going to go up after the m17x comes out so if you waited for the m17x and determined you could not afford it or didn't like it, I would think the m8750 would still be there for you at no worse price than it is now. You could monitor the price of the m9750 and then possibly pull the trigger if it drops again between now and whenever the order pages for the m17x and m15x go up on Alienware's site.
     
  50. ShortGreenGoat

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    Yeah i suppose, ive looked at Rock but as you say, even with the minimum specs and an 8800GTX its close to £1800, which is way to far over my budget, ill wait for december hopefully by then they'll have put up the m15x/m17x config pages and ill be able to see the sort of prices (though with current 8800GTX ones costing £400 or more to upgrade i may just go with an 8700 or 2x 7950's) The problem is the christmas deal stuff, last year Alienware offered some great deals on laptops and missing out on a decent one (e.g. cheaper dual graphics cards), for the sake of 'it could be better' is a big risk :/
     
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