If you max out the usb ports, all the drives, max oc on the cpu/gpu, +4K screen does it consume more than 660+?
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Or turn around your numbers to 990w
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Single 900W if the same size. Come on, they are already huge and heavy in P870, if they get any bigger, they might crush the laptop itself. But we really need more power.
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As long as the single brick is no larger and heavier than two combined I don't see where there is any difference. Having one cord and no convertor box to deal with would be awesome. If this modest amount of bulk presents a problem, then I'd say the person is not "in it to win it" all the way. You can always get one of these to put in your school bag along with a sack lunch and a bag of Skittles. Just be careful not to smash the Barbie dolls.
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Everything else is only surplus plastic.
Screens on those are awful. And the BGA is so bad that they manage to hit 100C and melt even without you trying. Some of them are even passive cooled. I don't think it is even funny letting them exist the factory. -
Passive cooling seems to be fine for something like Core M (basically a phone SoC). But using them for laptop chips is a huge WTF.
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At 4.7-4.9, the 6700K uses more than 200W?
OC 980 = 350
4K Panel = 75?
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I was thinking... How many of you really uses the mouse pad? I mean the one that generally is below the keyboard.
In my case almost none and I would be much happier with a full decent, maybe kind of mechanic but not that noisy keyboard. The closest approach would be like the GT80 but without any mouse pad.. just a full keyboard. And lower than general keyboard in notebooks not like GT80 but more like a 2" distance from the bottom enough to place the base of your palms.
And without mouse pad... only maybe with a tinny pointer? Like in some business like Lenovos, Dell, etc/
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Why not both? I use a touchpad right below the keyboard on my desktop as well. Yes, I do have/use regular mouses.
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Yes the idea would be just to switch from an BIG mouse pad to a tiny one or just none but a mouse button track like we find in business laptops.
In the notebook/desktop replacement I have in mind would be like that.
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All i want is manual volume control which you can set even when laptop is off. Like old fashion turning wheel.
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With your statement, you're dismissing half the Clevo community who owns P6xx and W-series machines which are actually very well-performing, do not throttle and are well-designed. The only caveat: they have your dreaded BGA CPUs/GPUs. However, these machines still perform well, have custom BIOSes, have Prema Mod, can be overclocked, etc etc.hmscott likes this. -
Way more than half of the Clevo community.
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Hmm, what do I want?
For AMD to make a comeback in the mobile CPU area. I've been researching CPUs for a NAS/HTPC build I'm thinking of doing in the near future, and AMD seems to have great offerings in the low-powered area (specifically, the Athlon 5350); get some of that R&D into the mobile CPU area, please? Bring back some decent competition in the mid- and high-end market. Ditto for mobile GPUs
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Personally, I don't see massive screen resolutions (>1080p) being too useful on laptop-sized displays, especially for "real work". That said, I think that the Thinkpad W701ds had an interesting idea to have multiple displays in a laptop. That said, I've love to see a new model which has one or two folding/sliding monitors with all 2-3 monitors being high-quality 1080p panels.
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It may sound silly, but do you know about how some flashlights and radios can be powered by a hand crank?
Well, we all know that even with today's technology, longer and longer battery life is still a bit of a pipe dream with current battery tech. Maybe a future laptop could have a retractable crank which the user can pop out in order to manually charge the battery when needed (and when they're away from an outlet / don't have their power brick)? Maybe even include a solar panel or two in the lid to help with battery life if the laptop sees sunlight.Mr. Fox likes this. -
A general purpose hand-operated charger would be more useful than something locked in a laptop.
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What I want and we all need is a Polaris MXM based on the RX 480 core to compete directly with mobile pascal parts that will be both obsenely expensive and hot!
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sli 1080's for laptops (M has been dropped) will set you back over $2000 for gpu's alone.
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for the third time, thin bezels like macbook or infinity display in laptops.. its 2016 ffs
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A 17.3"+ laptop with these specs for the board if possible or the 18phase one -
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- Skylake-E LGA 2066 8-10core CPU
- two way SLI
- dual PSU 330w would be enough
- air cooling is fine as long as it covers decent overclock-able range say 4.5ghz
**shared fan cooling, not shared heatsink cooling, ie cpu has it's own cooling fan same with the two GPUS, but extra heat pipe from cpu goes toward the exhaust of the GPU for more CPU cooling** ie GT80 MSI as an example but only missing a cooling fan module for CPU itself.
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Dual 330W is hardly enough even for current systems, let alone a X99.
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P870 with one 980 unlocked is already 800W+ from the wall. I'm not sure what the efficiency level is under such load, but considering that the PSUs are fin-less passively cooled and don't set anything on fire, they are probably quite efficient and therefore running out of spec.
With X99, the CPU alone will take all the nominal capacity of one PSU. OC the 980Ms just a bit and we're out of spec.
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OK, I went through all 15 pages;
And the MOST important thing mentioned here, is a new ATX standard, for laptops.
Once we had the option for something like this, all the OEMs could choose to drop it into a standard chassis with ease. Multiple ribbon cables should exist to connect usb daughter-boards etc.
And in the future we could change it out when new CPU tech / features warrents it.
It should be powered by existing 19V laptop PSUs, like the 330W ones you commonly find.
Forget SLI/Corssfire, and give us single 1080 DESKTOP on an mxm 3.0x module, to keep weight down. Surely this Pascal offering should suffice, or is there some game I'm not yet aware of?
Forget your 10-Cores in a laptop too, what are they - 150W without overclocking? Why not a 6700K Skylake (better IPC too) for your single GPU. You might even get that all within the 330W envelope, without forcing OEMs into an expensive re-design of PSUs, and that would reflect in the price also.
And I'll say it again, small bezel screens, @ 19" & 1440p, should give me the same footprint as my AW18. If the chassis is any bigger I likely wouldn't be able to hand-carry it on aircraft.
If you add water cooling, again, this could be a problem for air travel, so nice idea, but out with it.
So, an ErikO laptop would be:
1. Single mainstream CPU - SOCKETED. (E-series are always a node / process behind - unacceptable).
2. New L-ATX [yep, I've just named the new laptop ATX board] motherboard, with a normal effing bios that you'd get with any enthusiast board. Alienware I'm looking at YOU. This would also provide you with the USB header for your internal-mounted wireless mouse device.
3. 19" small bezel screen @ 1440p (do we need more on a single GPU for a screen this size? I think not)
4. Desktop-class GPU, constrained to about 170W.
5. Dual physical NIC, possibly one @ 10GE.
6. Min 3x wifi antennas. (I threw out my 7260 & installed my 3x ant 6300N for which I'm very happy)
7. 1x antenna for a digital TV tuner. Like someone already said, I want my machine to do everything. Nothing like rotting in a Vietnamese hotel, (where IP-TV now seems to be the standard) that is constantly failing (yes - even in a 5*). Or cooking in the kitchen, missing the program I was watching in the living room.
8. Improved speakers. I mean, come on, really? We can put a man on the moon, but we can't get this right?
9. Drop the DVD drive already. Useful? Yes. Necessary for TRAVEL in 2016? No.
10. I know you guys gonna set me on fire now - but drop the battery, IF you give me 3x the copper cooling capacity for same weight.
11. Use a linked-cooling system, like Apple, like the gf's Dell M3800, etc. It just makes sense, how it was missed on the AW18 I'll never know.
12. If a detachable screen is too much trouble (think 4x antennas, usb for camera / microphones, display connections), then I want a screen that folds open 180 degrees please. You know why...
13. Power cord connector should follow Apple's incredible magnet-design. Geeze, pay 'em for the license if necessary. And it should exit from the rear, where at least 1x USB connection should reside too.
14 This should weight not more than 5kg, and occupy a footprint no larger than the current AW18, ensuring this is still portable for the frequent traveller such as myself.
For this I will pay $5000 USD, not more.
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We already have a market severely over-saturated with thin and light garbage... way more than enough to meet every need. We need them to burn more calories on some wicked DTR options like or even more powerful than the P870DM-G.Nomad and CaerCadarn like this. -
What about better cooling pads from Fujitsu or Thermal grizzly? If you're going to be paying for a 5K machine, why not the best cooling for VRMs
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2016 and Beyond: What are we missing in laptops/notebooks?
Discussion in 'Notebook Cosmetic Modifications and Custom Builds' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 1, 2015.