It can be removed with an hair dryer/heat gun too. Just make sure not to heat the card too much. Or with a small screwdriver as per Meaker's suggestion.
@Talon
Nice! That's great to hear.
I'll update the vBIOS links once I get to my notebook!! I'm on my phone right now![]()
@Kevin
Yup all Clevo kits come with the X-Bracket. MSI doesn't use it.
BTW thnx for your favor![]()
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I may have spoken too soon, the program opens, but it seems I can't really get it to work. Maybe I'm missing something, but even try to select differet layers using the Fn + 1-4 keys won't work. I'm able to just hit default and it changes the colors back. The program itself is working, which is a start as before it wouldn't even open. I am using a rather old EC firmware, so I'm wondering if an update to a newer firmware would make it fully functional.
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) Will I need to do that for every driver update? Guessing so...
So yeah, my old GT780 (MSI-1761) is now up and running with a GTX 970m. I repasted the CPU since I was in there anyway, and both the CPU and the new GPU are running significantly cooler now. Both were hitting 90C after an hour of Dragon Age Inquisition, but now both are hitting a max of about 74C.. I always welcome the cooler running temperatures... Maybe I'll try a different paste at some point too. I had Arctic Silver 5 on hand, so I went with that.
Here is my first run of Fire Strike.
Comparing to other upgrader's scores, I think my CPU is now the bottleneck at least when it comes to a high physics score. Still, that's a fairly significant increase from the stock 560m's average score of about 1450-1500 on Fire Strike. If it gives this laptop another 2-3 years of highly playable life, I'll take it.
Looking at HWMonitor, it also shows that the 970m's voltage under load is a lower than the 560m (assuming that can be believed). I might try hooking the rig up to the stock 150W adapter to see how far it will run. I wouldn't mind having a spare brick at my parents' so I don't need to lug one back and forth when I am visiting.
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Hi Guys, I have a MSI GT70-0ND-646NL (a dutch GT70) with a 3630 i7 and a 675M videocard. MSI changed my 675m into a 870 when he died 2 weeks beforce the end of my warrenty. It is a great extra boost, but now i want more ofcourse and want to by a clevo 970m. Is my motherboard suitable for this card (bios wise) if i change the vBios to MSI?
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You should be fine for the upgrade.
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I think you must check it by yourself, first make update of your BIOS and EC firmware, then try to install latest drivers from NVIDIA website, it's highly likely you don't have to modify your vbios nor drivers to get your new GPU working
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And here's the updated MSI vBIOS links with the encryption key
MSI 970m 6GB
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Your CPU is limiting it a bit but don't worry as you won't feel it so much in GPU heavy games, only CPU intensive games may not perform at par with newer CPUs (small difference though).
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Hi guys! I've had some issues with my 880M and the technnical support have changed me (paying of course) my 880M with a 980M. When I get my laptop back I can send you some benchs and see if all is going fine!
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Just have found something interesting <3 <3 <3 Amazon.com: Dell Alienware M18x 330W AC Adapter XM3C3 ADP-330AB B DA330PM111: Computers & Accessories i think gonna get 1 to try it
I wanna Tanks Kevin@GenTechPC he helped me a lot with this whitebook proyect, definitely ill get my next pc from them amazing support! -
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If you don't like the new version you can always reverse it.Talon likes this. -
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Ok, EC firmware updated to MSI latest version listed on website. SteelSeriesEngine is now more fully functional. Everything seems to be working fine, the one exception is the color selections. I can now assign macros and keys to open apps, I can cycle the layers, but the only layer that appears to have colors that work is layer one? The other layers work, and allow keys to be assigned but for some reason I cannot get them to display colors.
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Ok, now color selections do work as long as I choose the normal profile, audio, and gaming. Still can't seem to figure out why dual color, breathing or wave won't work. I did try reinstalling the software as well.
So SSE is now 95% (fair right?) functional. Its actually pretty cool being able to select different color schemes on the fly.Last edited: Dec 16, 2014Kevin@GenTechPC likes this. -
Actually, did your model come with the steelseries keyboard? It may not be fully functioning colorwise if that's the case because the motherboard is missing the controller for the colors.
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So for now, I can safely assume SSE is functioning as intended as all other features work perfectly. Its a pretty neat app.Last edited: Dec 16, 2014felix3650 likes this. -
It would have been nice if those 240W were used completely (so OCing and peak power cnsumption would not have to drain the battery).
Using NOS my battery altready shows 20% wear..
I think we can pretty much say that it's functioning correctly (good news indeed)
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So I have the first GT60 2OD running SteelSeries Engine
Is my laptop even a 2OD anymore? Sometimes even I'm confused. HEHE.
Now here is my new question. If SLV7 can edit system BIOS, can he edit the bios to change the chassis type to a 2QE even for non upgraded GPU systems? Is that an easy change? Even after I had installed my 970m, SSE wasn't working on the old system BIOS (I tested this before). So it wasn't the 970m that tricked SSE into working. It was simply the system reporting as a 2QE to SSE upon launch. Hmmm. -
Both Prema and slv7 can do that. Changing the BIOS string to report a 2QE might work. My only concern would be the BIOS SKU detection code. If you rename it to a 2QE, what would a "real" 2QE config be called (like in you case)? Naming conflicts might arise.
We'd have to ask slv7 for more info.
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According to MSI, there's a special firmware for the keyboard to work with SSE, obviously yours doesn't have that version of firmware, however if it works then it's all good.
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I am calling BS on MSIs claim there is some sort of magical firmware in the keyboard. I've had this GT60 since before they officially launched and unless they came into my house when I was gone and installed it, its a bone stock keyboard.
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and what you have changed ? Maybe i can use also SSE on my old GT70 0ND (with MS-16F3 Motherboard).
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I noticed that when my laptop is working on AC without battery, my benchmark score and game FPS are fairly lower than AC + battery, does it mean my AC is not powerful enough so it charges additional energy from the battery? Should I get new AC?
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Why are you removing the battery? Just leave it in all the time. It doesn't hurt the battery at all, and is clearly hurting your performance.
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If only we could get our hands on it...
Aparently MSI uses the same EC firmware for GT60 2OD/2OC/2PE/2PC/2QD models with the same BIOS code and SKU detection routine. And I think the same BIOS too
In the end all those SKUs use the same 16F4 motherboard revision.
From what I found out SSE does this to check compatibility:
read SKU model (for MSI notebooks).
read EC for SteelSeries keyboard S/N or keyboard firmware (own line-up of SS keyboards).
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At first it seemed like I was out of luck.
Just got the card. Inserted it and did a quick boot just to check if my machine is booting.
Then did the mod to the heatsink. Applied the pads and put eveything together.
But taking a closer look: My machine didn't seem to recognize the card at all.
In Windows I juat had microsoft basic display adapter thing.
So I tried to flash to MSI but even nvflash was telling me that there is no nvidia card in my system.
But then I remembered reading something here about the latest nvflash so I tried that.
Heureka. Card is working... NVDriver installed without modded inf... I'm SOO happy... Off to benchmarking...
Yay...
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i don't know why after playing with the vBIOSes i cant get into my machine BIOS anymore, the funny think is the machine work fine can boot into windows play games etc, how i suppose flash bios if i cant get in it to disable secure boot, some one have the latest bios and EC for the ms-1763 win8 raid sku? ec upgrades from windows so wanna try it 1st
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This is why Talon's system model changed. The BIOS itself contains the name string so with a newer BIOS (not EC) the new name came up.felix3650 likes this. -
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The other issue I've noticed is that I can no longer control screen brightness through SCM or the hotkeys (Fn-Up/Down). I'm guessing it's now at 100% brightness all the time, and I'd like to turn it down a bit if possible. Not the end of the world, but would make my retinas a little happier. -
Hope can get the bios and ec updates to try to play with them and see if i can fix it
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got a new NVidia driver 347.09 - BETA
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Hey there guys been busy for last few days so was just checking what´s new.
Talon you can add my system to tested too it´s a GT70-2OD which works flawlessly with GTX980M. I have digital signin disabled anyway but if somenone wanna to disable it permanently I use this tool : Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider 1.3b
I did not needed to change nvdispi file with new 347.09 beta drivers which installed without any problems and modifications. I´m now running on BIOS ver. E1763IMS.711 and EC ver. 1763EMS1 ver. 5.16. Now the BIOS identifies my laptop as GT70-2QE. So think I should be able to run SSE too.. will test it out :-D -
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Yes Ryzeki.. It´s a clevo (blue PCB) card running without any problems for like two weeks now.. so think won´t be even flashing MSI vBios cause it´s not necessary at least for now and for me :-D
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Troy-C, do you use the new Dragon Gaming Center that supports new Shift Technology available only on the newest MSI laptops with GTX 980M and GTX 970M?
There are 3 modes:Sport,Comfort and Green mode. Sport runs CPU and GPU at the highest frequency for maximum performance. Comfort limits GPU frequency to level 1. Maintain GPU temperature at a maximum of 89°C. Green disables Intel Turbo boost and limits GPU frequency to level 2. Control CPU and GPU temperatures at a maximum of 85°C. I think that Green Mode is the best for performance and keeping temperatures under control. -
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This is the link from MSI GT70 2QD DOMINATOR:
MSI Global - Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Motherboard, Graphics and more 64
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The Official MSI GT60/70 970m/980m Upgrade Thread
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