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    "Official" x460DX Owners Thread

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by mstefanko, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. mk3pete

    mk3pete Newbie

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    also have another weird problem
    dang sorry to be annoying :rolleyes:

    im getting 3 Open File Security Warning windows
    asking me if i want to run these programs
    C:\Windows\System32\igfxtray.exe
    C:\Windows\System32\hkcmd.exe
    C:\Windows\System32\igfxpers.exe

    i click run on each of them, one after another and seemingly nothing happens
    windows continues as normal :confused:

    anyone got an idea on how to fix this :)
     
  2. MrRebeLs

    MrRebeLs Notebook Enthusiast

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    You mentioned the zip folder so just wanted to clarify, you should extract the files from the zip folder before running the installers. Right-click the zip file and select extract, pick location, etc...
     
  3. MrRebeLs

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    Next time you reboot you'll see these again. To fix it there should be a checkbox on that window to either always open or trust the program. Checking that will hide the window.
     
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    Has anyone here tried the Intel WiDi? Do these laptops even have it? lol
     
  5. mstefanko

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    I'd be curious about the widi too. I know I saw a video of it being demonstrated with the x460, and the dx still definitely has it. Unfortunately, my tv doesn't natively support it, and not sure dropping a bunch of money on an adapter is worth it or not.
     
  6. wumpus243

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    There was something in the device manager or elsewhere that showed it as 'present' in an '006US' model (mine) for sure. I spoke to the Canadian product manager (before I bought, with some questions), and she said it works well, and that version 2 is even better, but not to expect miracles with it. I also spoke with a supposed Sony 'WiDi Expert', and he said that lower resolutions have less data to stream, and so have better refresh (less pauses or hiccups), and that other devices broadcasting at the same frequency tend to make the connection have less bandwidth too. So if your TV is next to a WiFi router or cordless phone (or on the opposite side of your notebook from those things), you might even be hard-pressed to get sharp 720p from ten feet away. However, if you were to drag your X460DX and your giant screen TV down to the bottom of a coal mine and sat less than 20 feet away, you might even get 1080, although even then, there might be some occasional pauses and compression artifacts unless you dropped to 720, which should be flawless. He said to think of it like when you're streaming HD: the less distance and interference, the better bandwidth, and the better bandwidth, the better resolution and image quality. But I think the Sony might have only had WiDi 1.0.
     
  7. mk3pete

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    yep most definitely unzipped the folders :)
     
  8. mk3pete

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    worked out the problem!

    turns out you have to have the bluetooth on for the driver to install.
     
  9. Benchmade 42

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    Remember before you even attempt to think about clean installing your stock hdd or putting a new hdd/ssd, make sure you download all the updated drivers for your MSI model at the website and save it on a usb flash drive or a blank cd or external drive.

    After you double/triple checked all the drivers necessary to run your system stable ( besides the fresh windows OS and its service pack and updates), like the chipset driver, gpu driver, touchpad driver etc..., then you can start the installtion of the fresh windows 7.
     
  10. eight35pm

    eight35pm Notebook Evangelist

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    So I'm about to order this because it looks pretty good for the price and is the best I can find at 14". I just wish it had a better screen. I hope it works out!
     
  11. bryf50

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    So my x460dx is now matte. I took a ride to a store nearby that sells lcd panels. They had an LG panel that would fit perfectly. I figured why not it was only $50. Anyways I'm quite enjoying it. Not only are the reflections gone but I feel like the screen door effect was more apparent on the CPT. And it handles fingerprints and dust sooo much better. Viewing angle wise its about the same though. I'll post some pics later if I can.
     
  12. Xerloq

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    That's awesome! Really looking forward to pics and a description of your install method.
     
  13. prepseb

    prepseb Notebook Evangelist

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    Same resolution?
     
  14. bryf50

    bryf50 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yup.

    I don't have a camera atm but I'll summarize the install process.
    1) Remove the battery.
    2) Open the screen to its maximum extent
    3) Carefully pop off the bezel starting from the sides. I just used my finger nails and a bit of force.
    4) The top and bottom are held in by double sided tape as well as clips. With a little force it's removable without damaging anything. I found putting the panel back in without the tape didn't really change much of anything.
    5) The tricky part is the hinges. Make sure everything else is off first. This is where its important for it to be open all the way. You have to not be scared to bend the bezel a bit. You have to pull them out at an angle.
    6) Once the bezel is off its a matter of 2 screw holding the panel in. You unscrew them and slide the panel downwards. Once the panel is out you flip it to reveal the LVDS cable. There's a little sticker holding the cable in. You have to peel it back and from there just pull the connector out.
    7) Reverse the process to get the new panel back in. Again the hinges are a pita. Make sure you do them first. They have to be inserted at an angle and then pushed down with a lot of force to snap back in.
     
  15. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    What's the model of the LG screen?

    Did the store you visited have any insight as to higher resolution screens?
     
  16. Xerloq

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    That is, would it be possible to find a 1600x900 and use the same LVDS cable?
     
  17. wumpus243

    wumpus243 Notebook Consultant

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    Nice work! I'd really love to know the model too, to check the colour, contrast, brightness, etc. Matte would be so nice.

    Bravo on the guts to change it, and thanks for sharing - once we know the model, that becomes one replacement model that we know works nicely!
     
  18. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    The Dell Latitude E6420, Sony Vaio CW, and CA series also use 14" 900p screens. Whether they're compatible with X460 I do not know.

    I plan on re-pasting the CPU and GPU on mine when it arrives.
     
  19. bryf50

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    Unfortunately I made the mistake of not writing the model number anywhere. I figured I would be able to grab it though system info software but it's not coming up. That said I'm pretty sure the model is LP140WH2-TLA1. Datasheet here http://www.avidia.com.tw/docs/product/LP140WH2-TLA1.pdf. Like I said it's nothing special but I feel the matte screen really balances the laptop out. It makes the glossy plastic on the bezel and keyboard a lot more tolerable. Also, the colors and gamma were totally off out of the box. A few adjustments with the little calibration program in windows and it was much better.
     
  20. Xerloq

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    I haven't felt my machine get that hot, so I dont know if repasting is necessary. Still haven't had time to benchmark temps...
     
  21. inm8#2

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    This laptop seems like a similar machine to the 4820TG I own.

    I hope MSI can come out with a kick 14" machine next year with a solid dGPU, which seems to be more rare among 13" and 14" laptops these days due to the thinner/lighter trend and improvement in integrated graphics.
     
  22. Nick

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    My X460 just arrived(!), mom wont let me open it until I finish my homework :(
     
  23. Nick

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    Has any tried the new bios? When I try to flash it, Windows tells me it wasn't meant for X64?

    EDIT: iFail, version on website is current.
     
  24. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    In my opinion, this owns the M11x R3. Maybe even the m14x.

    Ran 3DMark06 with HWMonitor:

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Overclocked to GT 550M clocks:

    [​IMG]
     
  26. manifest3r

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    :eek: Is that on IDLE!?

    Is it stable?
     
  27. Nick

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    I only ran 3DMark06, then reset the clocks, but it seemed stable. I used MSI Afterburner.

    The core was only up 68MHz and the shader 136MHz.

    After that I overclocked it to GTX 560M speeds: core 775MHz, shader 1550MHz.

    I didn't run 3DMark06 on those clocks, but I will later today.
     
  28. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Overclocked to GTX 560M clocks:

    775MHz and 1550MHz. I believe I'll have to overclock the memory if I want any significant increase.

    [​IMG]
     
  29. wumpus243

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    I also have a 3820TG (very similar to the 4820TG) , and it is a very nice unit (when it came out, I thought it was the best value in powerfouse thin & lights). But the only thing it has better than the X460DX though is two fans (one for CPU, one for GPU). The X460DX blows it away otherwise, even at the 4820TG's unboosted slightly higher base clock rate. I don't understand the reason for the post here.
     
  30. wumpus243

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    Same error, but my download said two revs higher than my installed BIOS.

    Possible iFail too? :err:

    PS - Pretty good 3DMark06's for just Afterburner!
     
  31. i_have_a_bike

    i_have_a_bike Notebook Consultant

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    anyone have any thoughts on how this stacks up against the packard bell nx69?

    I can get the PB for 700 euros, while the MSI will cost me 780euros. The PB has 6gb ram instead of 4gb as well as a slightly larger HDD (750 vs 640). otherwise they are identical in specs. problem is the PB is not upgradeable (no access to HDD or RAM). I also thought it spoke pretty highly of the MSI that there is a pretty active owners thread here while i can find little to no (user generated) info on the packard bell. Is the MSI that stand outish in its segment?

    any thoughts would be great. also apologies if this is not an appropriate place to ask this.
     
  32. Nick

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    I've never used a Packard Bell, but this review is favorable: Review Packard Bell EasyNote NX69-HR-127GE Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    Looks nice, the only real difference is that it is .1" thicker than the MSI.
     
  33. HotBlood

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    I'm waiting until Windows 8 to buy my next laptop.

    Any news on the next iteration of the X460?

    I would love to see a matte screen, backlit keyboard, perhaps IPS option.
     
  34. bryf50

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    So I've done some more upgrades. I managed to grab a non-es i7 2620m(dual-core, 2.7ghz 3.4ghz turbo) for really cheap mostly for AES-NI which the 2410m sadly doesn't support. Got it yesterday and put it in without a problem. Doing so also meant replacing the TIM on the gpu with some Tuniq TX-4. I don't remember what it was previously but after playing bf3 for about 20mins the gpu was a respectable 80C.

    I also picked up a 64GB Crucial M4 and a cheap ebay caddy that should come in a few days. SSD + New CPU + Matte screen. My super laptop is almost complete =p

    As a side not one thing that pisses me off about the laptop is all the damn cracks and crevices that are just big enough to get dust stuck in them. You find that with notebooks that are better designed don't have this issue. Also screw glossy plastic.
     
  35. fengstar

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    Currently considering this laptop, vs the Lenovo y470 and Acer 3830tg/4830tg

    The i5 version of the x460dx is around $850, far more than the other laptops I'm comparing it with. The i3 version is however only $650 or so with the mail in rebate. Should I really pay $200 more for the i5?
     
  36. i_have_a_bike

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    from what i understand the MSI has better build quality than the 3830tg, as well as no (noticable) throttling issues. Thats the reason why i ordered one at least

    i5 also has power boost whereas the i3 does not. i think the i3 will be fine for now but if you want it to be more futureproof than i think the i5 will be a much better choice.
     
  37. MrRebeLs

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    I played with the 3830 and was very disappointed with the build quality. Spec wise it sounds great but between throttling and the quality i passed on it. This MSI is built like a brick.
     
  38. i_have_a_bike

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    good to hear. i had to pay a premium for it above other models with (ever so slightly) better stats. hopefully it will arrive tomorrow :D
     
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    Of course it's good to be a little more future proof but is it worth $200 more? :p

    $636 vs $830

    For now I'll just wait and see if the i5 prices come down any for black friday. Hopefully I don't regret missing out on the MIR on the i3.
     
  40. i_have_a_bike

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    wether or not it is worth it is subjective. it was worth it for me though

    just got mine in, loving it allready. build quality is muuuuch better than the HP nx69 i had a look at.
     
  41. budi_87

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    Hey guys. I am planning to purchase a 14 inch or lower laptops as a gift for my brother and I am fairly confused by the many options out there. after much research, I found that there is only 2 other laptops in this 14 inch or lower category that can compete with msi x460dx. Asus u46sv-dh51 and lenovo Y470. on paper, Lenovo y470 should trounce the other 2 in terms of performance and value for money because it has Nvidia 550m GT gpu, i7 cpu and bluray player for the price of $100 more than the msi X460dx. while the asus u46sv-dh51 is on the last spot. the thing that stops me from buying the lenovo is that they dont make the laptops that they sell by themselves. The mobility of the lenovo laptop is ranked last on paper and since, I am looking to buy a laptop for someone and had some bad experience with lenovo laptops being a defect previously. I dont think its a good idea to go through that route. (their customer service is a joy though. replaced my defect laptop right away) so between the last 2 laptops, I am leaning towards msi x460dx. I am just wondering to those who already owned one, are you satisfied with it? is there any quirks or anything that I need to know?

    BTW, I also found the one more version models to this msi laptops. its x460dx-216us. apparently it gives a faster cpu and bigger GPU memory (2gb). Sorry for being lengthy. any replies is always appreciated. thank you.
     
  42. Nick

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    The Y470 has much worse battery life compared to the X460. It's also much thicker. The difference between the 540m and 550m is minimal, and I was able to overclock my 540m to past 550m speeds with out issues.
     
  43. CaseyP

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    Hey guys,

    I am just about to pull the trigger on one of these. I just want to wait to see if any new models drop around Christmas.

    I am telling myself to wait until January, where they try and sell all the computers they didn't sell over the holidays.

    I've got my 006 configured at Xotic PC with a 640 gig 5400 rpm HDD and 8 gigs of ram for 794, plus a 30 dollar mail in rebate and free shipping.

    so 764, and the 8 gigs ram, and the larger, slightly slower HDD puts it almost identical to the heavier, champagne colored Asus u46sv.

    There is a new model on Newegg: they've discontinued the 006 but added the 216, which has a 2GB version of the gt 540m, and a 2430 version of the i5. However it's currently at 849 dollars, and I'd rather have the 2 gigs more ram and larger HDD for less.
     
  44. Nick

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    The video memory will make 0% difference. There's a brand new MSI X460DX-006US on eBay for $729: MSI X460DX-006US Notebook Laptop i5 2.30GHz 14" 6GB RAM 500GB 7200RPM GT 540M | eBay

    Or the i3 X460DX-008US for $719: MSI X460DX-008US i3 2310M 2.1GHz 14" 4GB Memory 500GB GeForce GT 540M SEALED NEW | eBay
     
  45. fengstar

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    Is there anywhere that has the i5 x460dx new for under 800, without downgrading on the hard drive?
     
  46. Nick

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    ^ yea i read your post above me, but I'd like to buy brand new unopened. Plus the whole no returns or exchanges is kind of :/.
     
  48. Nick

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    You can return items on eBay for almost nothing. I bought a used iPhone, and it had a tiny crack by the charging port and eBay let me return it.


    You can return anything you buy on eBay if it's not as described.

    I hear a lot of people stating their reason for not buying on eBay is the return policy. While, in reality it's pretty awesome, just as good as Amazon.

    You have eBay and PayPal protection. Also, all three sellers have excellent feedback.
     
  49. budi_87

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    first let me begin by saying that MSI x460dx is a very good computer for its projected demographics. MSI thought about the WIDI functionality and provided with bigger ram for the GPU. As we all know that bigger resolution requires bigger GPU ram. And I have decided to buy it for my brother.
    and now, as for the point that you said about battery life, Of course Y470 is much worse on battery life front as it has a faster CPU and GPU. the CPU alone Draws a lot more power. As for thickness, its only 0.3 inch difference. IMHO, at this point, I think its safe to say that it just becomes a matter of preference on the thickness front. I mean when macbook air first came out, everyone was pretty surprised on how thin the laptop is. but so what? macbook air sacrifices power, functionality for mobility. same goes here I guess. with that 0.3 inch difference, MSI sacrifices a functionality such as being able to play bluray disc. I am certain that in the future, there will be a thinner bluray readable ODD replacement to make up for what MSI X460DX lacked. but thats gonna cost more than $100 just to replace that. while lenovo y470 already have that and i7 core gpu. and if you checked, the i7-2670QM is not a cheap processor. $378 was the recommended price that intel provided. 2nd Generation Intel® Core? i7 Processors (Mobile). add that up together assuming you purchased the cheapest version of the x460dx. $719+378+150(assuming the odd upgrades is that cheap)-150(assuming that the processor and the odd is sold) = $1097 this also assumes that you do the changes yourself. if you ask some technician to do it, thats at least 100-300 more. (once I was curious and ask Geek Squad personnel how much do they charge on setting up wireless router. they quoted me $300. SETTING UP WIRELESS ROUTER. man do I get the shock of my life! :eek: ) What I am trying to say in my first post is that buying lenovo gives you the most bang for your buck.
    As for GPU overclocking. I seen what you did. and that was something amazing. But if you can do that on this 540m GT gpu, dont you think that the same goes for 550m GT? I mean if you see both the GPU design, 96 pipelines, memory speed, memory bus width they are practically the same card with stronger cooling system provided for it. dont you think that you can do a lot more with the said card? one could say that just use laptop coolers when it gets too hot. then it defeats the purpose of that 0.3 inch advantage or the 0.5 pounds advantage. I believe that those people who bought this particular model of Msi decided on buying it because they want that harmony of being able to play games and carry it around without being planted to wall socket all the time. And after you overclock it, your battery life sank too. so much that the lenovo becomes the one who has the longer battery life. you said that you get 5 hours battery life while doing web browsing. did you use your overclocked gpu while just surfing the net or have it act hybrid or turn it off completely?
     
  50. Nick

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    I think you're confused, why on earth would I overclock my GPU while on battery surfing the web. The battery life estimates for both the X460 and the Y470 were done on the Intel HD GPU.

    Just to make sure there isn't any confusion, the Y470 gets 3.5 hours of battery life on the INTEL GPU. The X460 get 5 hours on the INTEL GPU.

    It's personal preference, I prefer a system that is very portable, fast, runs cool, and doesn't throttle under heavy load. Go ahead a Google "Y470 Throttling". The Y470 has a much worse cooling system then the X460DX.

    While .3 inches may sound small, I've actually owned a laptop that thick. And compared to 1", it's a sizable difference.
     
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