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    New PowerPro R 12:17(MSI 1761 barebone with GTX570M)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Tim4, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. haniunited

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    Come on guys I cannot beleive there's still no video review of this beast with benchmarks and proper commentary, please guys who have this give us some videos to chew on whilst we wait our packages to arrive. For example because I made an international order and my friend will bring it 'as soon as possible' I have no idea how long until I have it, so please give me some videos pals :D
     
    haniunited, Oct 4, 2011
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    I plan to put up some gameplay videos soon. Hopefully that'll be a nice tease?
     
    Geek Weekly, Oct 5, 2011
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    Well go look at the 780DX? same hardware.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 5, 2011
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    Pretty much yeah...just different material on the chassis and a couple less touch button features. The plastic on the chassis even looks the same as the DX.
     
    xault, Oct 5, 2011
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    The touch buttons all work on the PowerPro R 12:17, including TDE, Turbo Cooling and Cinema Pro.

    You have to have the secret formula, but we do :)
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 5, 2011
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    I asked this elsewhere, but I'll ask here too.

    I have purchased the 1761 barebone and I can't seem to set up RAID 0 in the BIOS. There aren't any options for it. My BIOS is version E1761IG6 (v3.06). Is there any place to get an update? I just want RAID 0 to work.

    My second question is in regard to the RAM. I bought 8GB (2x4GB) ADATA 1600MHz RAM and it is running it at 666MHz and not 800MHz. It does support Intel XMP. Yes, I know that it defaults to 1333 so ensure it will be supported, but how do I use it at its rated frequency of 1600? Also, I do have an i7-2760QM (ES) which does support 1600MHz RAM.

    If you have any questions about how my computer is configured, look here.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 6, 2011
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  7. Decapitated Chicken

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    So I overclocked the 570M to 730/1460/1750 and ran 3DMarkVantage and got an incredible score of 15,522 3DMarks.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 6, 2011
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    There are two BIOS versions available. One for RAID 0 and one for non-raid. Please ask your vendor for the proper BIOS version for RAID 0.

    Intel XMP is typically NOT supported by laptops because the BIOS does not allow for multiple memory profiles...so, it clocks it down to DDR3/1333. I would return that memory and buy DDR3/1600 without XMP support.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 7, 2011
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    We have some benchmarks available at the links below of the MS-1761 for your reference:

    MS-1761


    RKC 1761 Extreme
     
    [email protected], Oct 7, 2011
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  10. long2905

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    So say if i have i7 2860QM and this pair of RAM, will it work at 1600?

    Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3P1K2/8G
     
    long2905, Oct 7, 2011
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    Xonar, Oct 8, 2011
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    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 8, 2011
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  13. haniunited

    haniunited Notebook Consultant

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    Guys can the 2630QM be overclocked using a program like I did with my T9400 on my old Asus laptop? I just used some sort of program with sliders and upped the clock to hell and back.
     
    haniunited, Oct 9, 2011
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    No, sandy bridge CPUs can't be overclocked.
     
    Xonar, Oct 9, 2011
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    Could someone please send me the latest version of the barebone BIOS please? I'm interested in modding it to support overclocking.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 9, 2011
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    What overclocking? I'm afraid you won't find any. This topic has been discussed for months now. Only the Alienware M18x has the capabilities to overclock via BIOS. :(
     
    Xonar, Oct 9, 2011
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    I understand that, but I would like to modify the latest BIOS to see if I can do it. For example, some guy modded the 16f2 BIOS to support overclocking.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 9, 2011
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    Yep, that'd be me. Did you go through the thread and actually see what I've been posting? You must not have, because I specifically recall writing that it is overclocking through the BCLK (NOT multiplier). Your maximum overclock potential is ~120 mhz through this method. Yep, 120mhz, .12ghz. It's not worth risking voiding your warranty over such a marginal increase.

    Like I said above, the M18x is the only notebook able to overclock the CPU through the BIOS using multipliers.
     
    Xonar, Oct 9, 2011
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  19. Decapitated Chicken

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    I understand that. I was just curious to see if I could get it to work. More importantly, however, I want to change the 'optimal' RAM setting to 1600MHz and then the failsafe to default.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 9, 2011
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    A seller on ebay is offering a backlight keyboard from Steel Series for their MSI 1761 laptops. They are also offering the keyboard as a $60 stand alone item and claim that it is suitable for "GX780 GT780, GT780R, GT780DXR, also works on MSI GT780 BAREBONES!!!!"

    Can any of the resellers confirm whether this upgrade exists? If so, will they stock them?
     
    Moses2000, Oct 10, 2011
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    Yeah, they have them in stock now.
     
    mtmelton, Oct 10, 2011
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  22. Moses2000

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    Has anyone seen the keyboard upgrade offered by one of the resellers active on these forums?
     
    Moses2000, Oct 10, 2011
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    Nope, and none of the resellers here have confirmed anything...yet.
     
    long2905, Oct 10, 2011
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    Geek Weekly, Oct 12, 2011
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    Just got my laptop from GentechPC, review in the coming days.

    Any requests guys?
     
    haniunited, Oct 12, 2011
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    Yeah, box it up and send it to.....
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 12, 2011
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  27. haniunited

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    How do I make the touch button for the DVD work? it works when outside windows so it's clearly a driver issue, what driver do I need to download? Thanks in advanced.
     
    haniunited, Oct 12, 2011
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  28. xault

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    S-bar needs to be installed and running.
     
    xault, Oct 12, 2011
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    The button will work when you are in the BIOS, but in Windows 7 you need to have the S-Bar utility installed for the eject button to work, and Windows 7 has to be booted with the blue star at the top of the screen loaded.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 12, 2011
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  30. haniunited

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    Are you kidding me? I have to have that ugly thing on my desktop? I'd rather eject from My Computer.
     
    haniunited, Oct 12, 2011
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    :confused: I am curious why a blue star on the desktop, which would usually be covered up with your active windows, would be considered ugly and unwanted??
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 12, 2011
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  32. haniunited

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    Mostly because the idea is ridiculous , I'm one of those obsessive users who remove every single running process until perfection, this blue star would go against everything I 'stand for' when it comes to using a computer.

    I just love to be in control.

    Thanks for your helpful replies though I do appreciate it.
     
    haniunited, Oct 12, 2011
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  33. xault

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    I find it quite funny how so many absolutely hate the S-bar star icon. To each their own I guess. Most of the time, I eject from the computer instead of the touch button, but I still keep the S-bar running.
     
    xault, Oct 12, 2011
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  34. Moses2000

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    I've decided to join the club and just placed my order for an MSI 1761 barebone from Gentechpc. The only changes I made to Ken's stock settings are to add a second 750GB HDD and a 4x BluRay Drive. Hopefully it will ship tomorrow or Monday. Sweeeeeeeeet!!!!
     
    Moses2000, Oct 13, 2011
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    Congratz Moses, you absolutely made the right choice - I just finished playing GTA IV with everything set to 'Very High' and all sliders on 60.

    No stuttering at all, you can go with sliders at 100 but it will lag a bit at night.
     
    haniunited, Oct 13, 2011
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    jacobbobcorn, Oct 14, 2011
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    Swapped in an AUO173HW01 v4 glossy screen. Best TN panel I've ever seen. Colors are much more vibrant. No bluish hue or grainy anti-glare coating texture unlike the default chi mei screen. If you still need matte, the AUO173HW01 v5 is matte and supposedly good too. I've had an AUO matte panel before and the anti glare coating is way better than the chi mei coating.
     
    kakashisensei, Oct 14, 2011
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  38. Geek Weekly

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    Great news! Powernotebooks.com is offering the Steel Series Keyboard upgrade for the PowerPro R 12:17. Ahh it's nice to have choices. Haha.
     
    Geek Weekly, Oct 15, 2011
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    I wonder how they are managing that without the second cable needed for the backlit keyboard. Last I heard, someone mentioned that there was only one cable in the barebones version... They must have found a way to add it in.
     
    xault, Oct 15, 2011
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  40. long2905

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    would someone with a barebone try it out?
     
    long2905, Oct 15, 2011
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    That is correct...however there is a bit more to it than that.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 15, 2011
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    trade secret huh? Can you drop a hint on whether the MS16F2 can use the same method? ;) just yes or no will do.
     
    long2905, Oct 16, 2011
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    The MS 16F2 motherboard will not support the Steelseries keyboard.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Oct 16, 2011
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    So would you be willing to describe how you managed to get it working on the 1761 barebone?
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 16, 2011
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    I have hooked up with a retailer on ebay who will sell me the keyboard for $60 plus shipping. As part of buying the keyboard he has promised to also provide an instructional video on how to modify the 1761 barebone to take the keyboard.

    I haven't bought yet, so don't have the video :(
     
    Moses2000, Oct 16, 2011
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    I'm interested, especially why the MS-16F2 can't work with it. It is just because it isn't "MSi Qualified", but in reality there's no difference?
     
    Xonar, Oct 16, 2011
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  47. long2905

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    man I'd rep you so hard when you share it =)
     
    long2905, Oct 16, 2011
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    The 16F2 DOES NOT have the power connector on the systemboard for the keyboard power and color control.
     
    [email protected], Oct 16, 2011
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  49. Decapitated Chicken

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    If you buy it, please share the instructions.
     
    Decapitated Chicken, Oct 16, 2011
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    The keyboard mounting is different between the branded GT780DX(R) and the 1761 barebone. The EC/Firmware also controls the power and color illumination. I am going to try it in a few days, they may have "cut" the screw type mounting tabs off so the keyboard will fit and flashed with the branded EC to get the power and color control. I will let you know asap as i try it.
     
    [email protected], Oct 16, 2011
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