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    Msi gs70

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by cotolay, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. bkoon1218

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    So, if one component is fried, the whole laptop is done for? Then again, you must really be pushing your laptop to ridiculous limits to do that, right?
     
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    It would be the GPU to probably go bad before anything else would but hey that is why you have a warranty :). Most parts can handle a ton more heat then people give them credit for nowadays we are all just paranoid of high temps because we dont like the idea. But yeah if a part on the motherboard dies then they will toss the mainboard i suppose. They probably recycle some or most of it ill bet though.

    2 year warranty is pretty nice to have and peace of mind without having to shell out more money upfront for it . Or i guess you can say they jack up the price a little bit to cover part of the extended warranty but MSI is pretty competitive price wise.
     
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    I just noticed the GS70 comes with the 4700HQ processor, while the GE70 has the 4700MQ. I guess in this case the difference is only in the cpu package, one is soldered OEM most likely and the other would be on some sort of a socket.

    Are there any significant differences between the 4700HQ and trhe 4700MQ?
     
  5. Quadzilla

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    Everything i have read about the HQ and MQ seems to boil down to soldered vs removable beyond that they are identical.
     
  6. bkoon1218

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    Tbh, people are mainly gonna buy this for aesthetics more than functions. It's significantly cheaper to get other better laptops, but they're bigger or less attractive (subjective).

    Does MSI offer extended warranty options like Alienware? I only change computers every 4-6 years, so two years for a $1.7k machine doesn't provide me much security, lol.
     
  7. Quadzilla

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    Im not sure about extended warranties beyond the 2 years. You can check gentechpc.com too see if they do by looking at another MSI machine. Scroll to the bottom of the config page where the warranty stuff is and they might offer an additional year.

    Beyond that there is always other warranty companies like Square Trade or pay for it with a credit card that offers an additional year free on computers . That is something i have seen many people talk about getting that free year from there CC company.
     
  8. bkoon1218

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    According to the MSI website, the GS70 comes with two years limited warranty. The Square Trade warranty isn't much different, except for accidental protection. :/

    I see an extended warranty on their website, but I'm unsure as to what it really means. I think it's saying you can extend up to 3 years of warranty. For those that are interested: http://www.msimobile.com/warranty/extend_notebooks.aspx

    Gosh, I edited this post so many times to not be misleading, lol.
     
  9. smashhell

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    One thing.
    The Razer blade 17"inch is 6.6lbs.
    So this thing will be lighter, thinner, and cheaper. :)
     
  10. bkoon1218

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    Can't wait to get some reviews on this. I'm just curious about the noise emissions, heat, and accessibility of internal components. Everything else seems pretty standard.
     
  11. ameybhavsar

    ameybhavsar Notebook Guru

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    Hello Everyone any updates where to buy this machine as it is already up on the site of MSI...I already bought a Y510p Dual Graphics Model and was planning to switch....Any suggestion....??
     
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    Thanks for the Reply...I wonder the price is still to high for this machine...Any suggestion of switching this laptop with my current Lenovo Y510p Dual Graphics...I got that for $1200 and you might be knowing the specs....Also any news on GS60 i.e 15inch model, that should be more interesting to buy... :)
     
  14. Quadzilla

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    In comparison to the Lenovo even though its a nice computer this one will be crafted from Aluminum vs mostly plastic/some aluminum,MSI standard with 2 years of warranty vs 1 year of the Lenovo, this will have the fancy touchscreen touchpad (how useful is anyones guess but you gotta pay for it) and 17inch machines are always pricier then the 15inch generally speaking.

    So when you add just a couple things up like that you can see where the cost comes into play plus this machine is really going to after the more expensive Razer Blade 17 which i believe starts around $2500.

    I think the GE70 which is a 17inch is more inline price wise with the Lenovo but also mostly plastic though very similar in specs to the GS70.
     
  15. bkoon1218

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    Another thing to consider is the possible instability of dual GPUs.

    Without a doubt, the price of the GS70 is pretty high. It just seems low, because it's being compared to the very high-priced Razerblade Pro.

    I just hope MSI chooses to leave out that LCD touchpad. I personally would never use something like that.
     
  16. SniperNoSniping

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    Am i the only one here that would love for something like a GS60?
     
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    I think the LCD touchpad is one of the main selling points of this new model so i really doubt they will just leave it out and again this is there way of competing with Razer without directly stealing the idea from them because frankly it is the same concept they just moved the touch pad where it belongs instead of removing the numberpad and putting it there.


    Ill bet if this machine is successful we will see a 15 inch model of this and heck even a 14inch. Seeing we have GE40,GE60,GE70 i could see them making a premium model of all sizes at some point.
     
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    I dont think the models listed on the MSI website for Aug release have any sort of LCD touchpad, that was just a show thing for future release at some later date.
     
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    Guess i was wrong about the Matrix display then . The GS70 should have the new touchpad though.
     
  20. Covariant

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    "Matrix Display" refers to the ability to connect several external monitors to the unit. The GT models have the same feature.
     
  21. Quadzilla

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    Thanks

    im surprised i didnt know that considering i have the GT70 but something i never used before.

    Its hard to say from the gallery if it will or will not have the touchpad and maybe it was only a concept but i would think for the premium price over the GS70 it should have some other feature except being made from aluminum .

    I guess a reseller or MSI Dragon will be able to confirm this eventually .
     
  22. uzun

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    Im fairly certain there is no type of touch display on these inital GS70's There was something like that on the touch pad of the show machine, but that's not coming for a while to customers.
     
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    Yeah i found that odd considering i thought that was one of the major features they were touting about this machine from the get go ?. I still think there should be something else that differs the two machines of the GE70 and the GS70 other then aluminum because spec wise they will be identical, well virtually save for the 2 fans vs one and abit of weight but i really thought the extra cost came from another feature .
     
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    GE70 has an upgradeable CPU, but is thicker and only has one fan. The thin aluminum case makes the GS70 look much better overall, but they are pretty similar overall. I wonder if the GE70 has heat or throttling issues. There are pluses and minuses to each really. I'm leaning towards the GS70 for the appearance and the dual fans.
     
  26. charliex3

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    As I see, I am not the only one which is deciding between GS70 and GE70 ...
    I don't think that GE70 has heating issue like GE60.
    But GE70 is about 500-750€ cheaper than GS70 :/ ...but i really like Dual Fan + fullcolored backlit keyboard on it :/
    Let's see if GE series will come with dual fan + full backlit keyb. in 2014 o_O and especially with bigger battery o_O
     
  27. bkoon1218

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    Well, IMO, the form factor and the material is already the price difference.

    XoticPC has only one model of the GE70 for $~1.3k with just a 750 GB HDD. The base configuration of the GS70 has a 128 SSD and a 750 HDD. Netting out the amounts, it's about a $300-400 difference for the thinness and the aluminum.

    EDIT: Made my post clearer.
     
  28. zufir

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    wow 1300 ! Can we have the link to xoticpc's website ? I can't seem to find it

    EDIT: I just chatted with xoticpc and they were asked to remove the listings from MSI. :(
     
  29. bkoon1218

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    I hope there wasn't a misunderstanding. $1,300 for the GE70, not the GS70. I was trying to justify the $300-400 extra ($1,800 MSRP) for the GS70 in the material, size, and internal components.

    http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-ge70-2oe017us-p-5781.html

    That's the link in case you were really looking for the GE70 for $1,300.
     
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    6 cell battery ... really MSI ? really ? :(((
     
  32. kent1146

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    Why not? Who the heck uses a 17" laptop on battery anyway?

    At that point, what you are really buying is a desktop replacement that happens to be slightly easier to move around than a real desktop PC. The battery just acts as an incidental UPS.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
     
  33. charliex3

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    17" or 15.6" it doesn't matter there's difference only few minutes while you are on battery... And who? For example me because I am a student and I need something on what I will play some games while I am at home(charger in use) and also my battery won't discharge after 2hours of notepad school work...
     
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    I think you are falling into the trap of trying to buy a single machine that will do it all.... plenty of horsepower for when you want to game, and high portability when you need to be mobile. The problem with that is that you will always end up making sacrifices in either horsepower or portability.

    At this point, mobile technology is not mature enough to provide a single machine that can meet both needs. What I would recommend is a desktop PC for gaming, and a thin-and-light laptop (perhaps an ultrabook ) for your mobile needs. Because the reality is that you don't NEED a 17" machine or a gaming grade GPU with you in class.

    The total cost of building / buying two machines ends up being $1500 - $2000, which is what you would end up spending on a gaming capable 17" DTR notebook anyway.

    If budget is a limiting factor, get a Lenovo Ideapad Y510p with dual GeForce 750m GPUs. Equivalent performance to a 765m, gets up to 5 hours of battery life, and costs $1200.



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    y510p with 5hours of battery life... thats wrong...i already checked 3forums and about 5review and Y510p ends in entropy after 3hours...
    Anyways I am working with 3Ds Max so this or GE70 is my choice but i was thinking about this because it has dual fan... but it seems i'll end up with GE70 :/ ...anyways for what is good thin and ultra fast laptop like this if it will discharge after few hours...nothing
     
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    The Lenovo Y510p has an undocumented feature, where you can manually select which GPU you want to use (nVidia GeForce 750m or integrated Intel GPU). When running on the nVidia GPU, which is the default, you get 3 hours battery life. When on the Intel GPU, you get up to 5 hours of battery life.

    You don't see this battery life figure posted in reviews, because this is an undocumented feature. It does not work with SLI (you need the 2nd GPU removed), and it does not work with Optimus (since it is manually switching, not automatic switching).

    But I am bringing it to your attention on, just to let you know that there is a laptop out there that gets equivalent gaming performance to the MSI GT70, with similar weight, gets up to 5 hours battery life, and costs 2/3rd of the price. Do with that information what you will.

    Good luck with your GT70



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  37. bkoon1218

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    Does the GS70 have Optimus? I figured most 765m laptops use that, so it probably does too. With Optimus, maybe the productivity value (battery life) of the laptop will increase.
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    MSI don't currently ship any nvidia systems without optimus.
     
  39. bkoon1218

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    Doesn't the GE70 use Optimus? That's what XoticPC said, last time I checked.

    Edit: derp, misread
     
  40. Quadzilla

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    Yes all MSI notebooks use Optimus as Meaker said in the post above yours .
     
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    On this picture, aren't there two Thunderbolt ports near the HDMI or am I seeing things?

    Got it, must be their multiple video-out solution.
     
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    Two DP according to tech specs
     
  43. bkoon1218

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    I did a search for the GS70 last night, and there's a rumor going around that there's a model with just a HDD for ~$1.3k. I hope that's true!
     
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    rumor denied.

    If you found that statement on a facebook page, it was probably me. I misunderstood someone else's post on this same thread. (he was talking about the ge70 for 1300).

    sorry :(
     
  45. bkoon1218

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    Boo. :( Got my hopes up. Thanks for clarifying though. Regardless, the current price tag isn't too bad compared to the competition.
     
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    Price seems fine, I just want to be able to buy one! This wait is awful.
     
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    There might be a 15 inch model.I was looking through many topics/posts(whatever, you got the point) and a MSI member replied to some questions about MSI's 2013 lineup...and there he said something like "for the gs60...stay tuned".Or something similar to that.
    My only concern about this laptop is battery life and availability in eastern Europe.
     
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    There's no perfect notebook.

    Everything is tradeoffs.

    With the GS70 it's a 6 cell battery to get thin and lighter.

    The 120W AC Power Adapter is another sacrifice

    For better on battery time an SDD is essential so think about ditching the HDD and only use SSDs.

    IMO,this type of notebook should not have a HDD,only SSDs.

    Find out what the stock mSATA SSD is and buy from a reseller that can customize the hardware to perform better while extending battery time.
     
  49. bkoon1218

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    I'm slightly concerned about the noise now, since the Alienware 14 was rated extremely loud on Notebookcheck.
     
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    Heyy Guyz any news where to buy this beast in US...btw rumors are tis machine has TN panel and not the IPS...??? :rolleyes:
     
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