Msi Gx620

Crysis DX10 deviates very little in FPS, so it should be almost the same results, but hey, you never know.







As you can see, about 1-2 FPS difference.

I ordered from mWave for $1299.

Sound quality isn't anything special -- typical laptop speakers; no mid-low end frequency, slightly tinny sound. I'm not saying they're bad, but it sounds like 99% of the laptops out there. I will give it this though, the speakers can get fairly loud and doesn't distort.

Webcam is good. Picture quality is about the same as a cell phone's 2-3.2 MP camera, and motion capture is pretty fluid. It does capture some background noise, but nothing bad.

 

Those are some impressive numbers for this notebook. If people say that the 8600m GT DDR3 is the same as the 9600m GT i can tell you it aignt so. The numbers that the 9600m GT on this gx620 read different to its close of kin graphic card the one inside the dell xps m1530. the GPU MEMORY AND SHADER CLOCK are a bit faster on the 9600m GT. In point my lil bro casually plays crysis on his m1530 at a 1024X768 the only machine confirmed to have GDDR3 8600m GT card, and he doesnt mind it one bit he plays it at all Medium settings avgs about 27Fps. I am sure anyone who picks up this value of a laptop will be more then happy with the performance!

 

The sound and webcam are a bummer, I'm comparing everything to an Acer Aspire 7730 as it's nearly the same config and price over here.
That Acer has some impressive sound, dolby certified speakers + subwoofer or something of the like. Does the gx620 have a subwoofer?
I think I shouldn't stumble over the sound though, I'm soon gonna buy headphones for my guitar, but having good sound on my laptop would do great for letting music play in my dorm when people come over... oh! And for watching movies with friends!

It's a tough choice I like the looks of this MSI more + it's a smaller screen with a lower resolution. It does seem like a solid purchase though, both of them.

 

The GX620 only has stereo speakers (2). I believe the 17" version, the GX720, will have a subwoofer. While the factory speakers are not very impressive, the GX620 does have one of the best integrated sound processor, a Realtek ALC888S. If you can't have a X-Fi or external sound card, the Realtek ALC888/889 offers very good sound and supports 7.1 speaker setup. You will be surprised when you hook up a good speaker system or headphones to it.

 

I knew I forgot something...the overclocking! The GX620 allows its user to overclock their CPU by increasing the operating frequency by 15 or 20 percent (User selectable in BIOS). Do take note that this only works:

A.) When you are running off the AC Adapter.
B.) MSI System Control Ultility is installed. Without it, the turbo button will not work.

This feature can be enabled anytime in Windows at user's decrepancy. You can turn it on during a game, watching a movie, surfing the internet or pleasuring oneself to pornography. You'll know when the overclock is active when the turbo button lights up.

With the P8600, 15% increase equals to 2.78GHz.


20% Overclock puts the P8600 right at 2.88 GHz.


Interestingly enough, either overclocks puts the venerable P8600 right up against the exotic Core 2 Extreme X9000, sans the cache disadvantage. I will point out that while the system does not change the CPU voltage, the cooling fan does seem to kick in more often. Nevertheless, the feature seems to work well and I did not experience any system stability issues or lock-ups with the 20% overclock for the whole day. Since this can be done to any processor installed, I'm curious to see what the GX620 can do with an X9100...

(If the cooling system and motherboard's power circuitry can take it...it should put an X9100 at 3.55GHz with a 20% overclock!)

 

I'm starting to get desperate here now lol, but if ANYONE at all finds out about a supplier in Sweden TELL ME PLX! Alternatively an international one, who ships with Swedish keyboard layout..

 

hey does the cardreader support xD?

 

Yes; XD, SD, MMC and MemoryStick.

 

WoW so impressive, MSI seem to be serious about laptop right now. Thank a lot to TRF-Inferno, can u make some tests on battery, how long for wifi on 60% birghtness and how long for watching dvd, gaming also 60% brightness, wifi off ... or watever u want to test, and please comment compare to other average laptop battery. Im really look forward to buy this one

 

You mean there's no shop out there that carries the brand MSI?
Then that really sucks :s
http://www.msi.eu/se/buy.php
It's from the Swedish site, look on those shops if they had the previous (gx600, 610) versions of the notebook, chances are they'll have the new one soon.

Or do you mean it's not available yet? Well...here in Belgium it isn't as well, it should be available some time next week... So I guess it's normal.

 

Yea I suppose I might be a bit impatient, but the stores I've contacted told me they have no information about this model..

 

Hi, I have a slightly different question for those owning a MSI GX620.
I recently bought a Dell Studio 15 and I was quite dissapointed by the machine's build problems, sound, video etc. (Though the LED display was cool). SO I DECIDED TO RETURN IT!

Anyway I was thinking into buying a MSI GX620 that I would use probably 90% to do programming/surfing and 10% to play games. But I do want those 10% to be pleasant (if u know what I mean).

My question would be : what are the known problems for this laptop?
Because no matter how long I googled I didn't find almost anything but benchmark results.

So problems like: it is too heavy, battery doesn't last very long, display quality is not ok, heat problems (maybe due to nvidia gpu), build quality, bad technical support etc. whatever you can think of.

Thanx a lot

 

GX620 is very new, unlikely you are going to find problems until later on.
But I think some NBR members have gotten those 1651 which is the same as GX620. You may check reviews for 1651.

 

Battery Test (Using Vista Balanced Power Plan, Screen Brightness = 60%, Webcam & Bluetooth = Off, WiFi = On)

Internet Browsing (Reading forum and browsing eBay): 2 Hours, 20 minutes.
DVD Movie (Michael Bay's Transformer, Volume = 70): 1 Hour, 50 minutes.
Gaming (Infinite 3DMark06 loop with sound): TBA

So far, my only issue with this laptop is the keyboard. It has a little flex, which will probably not bother 'touch-typists', but for those that likes to type by pressing the keys down fairly hard, it is noticeable. The keys are a little loud when pressed, but again, this depends on the user. Coming from a Macbook Pro, I think the keyboard is somewhat disappointing. Otherwise, its battery life falls well within the range of a 15" notebook with discrete graphics, the screen is quite nice, it runs cool and quiet, and few 15" notebooks can match its performance in its price range. Build quality is definitely good; no creaks, no loose or misaligned panels, and the brushed aluminum pieces on the screen lid and palm rest are nice.

 

Yay i picked mine up yesterday. It totally played the hell outta Company of heroes so I totally stoked. On top of that the computer came with a copy of Rainbow Six Vegas 2 so I guess thats cool even though I don't really enjoy shooters. Cept I gots one problem, It comes with a partition, and I got this weird thing against partitions, and being as this is my first vista lappintop i have no idea how to shrink the size of the data partition and and increase the size of the c partition. Help would be totally sweet, or tell me if I'm posting in the wrong section.

On a lighter note you can totally tear *** on sid meier's pirates in the dancing sections with the number pad. Which I have to admit is one of the primary reasons I bought this laptop. JKS.

Rob

 

ty to TFN-Inferno, you are really nice pp in this forum. I think your information now should be enough to write a full reivew about this MSI gaming now ..... again, ty u alot for ur useful information, i will buy this one for sure

 

Is it possible to install into this laptop Kingstonn DDR3 SODIMM-1066MHz 2 dimm's 2GB each? Because it looks like that this system supports it - FSB is 1GHz and VRAM is DDR3. E-Bay seller respond to me that he can replace WD HDD With 320GB Seagate 7200 HDD with GForce technology.
To TRF-Inferno -
1) can You run HDD WD3200BEVT HD Tune benchmark?
2) do You plan to run 3DMark06 with following settings: Native resolution with 20%TurboOverclock and 6 sample AA and Texture filtering - Anisotropic? Maybe this sounds a little crazy, but it could be very interesting. I'm planning to buy this laptop too. I'm hope that on 9600mGT will run smoothly GTA4 in November. I played this game on Xbox360, but didn't like movement and that this stuff is very heavy & + i need large LCD monitor or Plasma. And GeForce 9600M GT specification looks VERY similar to Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 spec except bus width - 256bits.
3) can You put one large sharp picture of this laptop: Right side, where i can see cooler inside material - is it copper or something else?
Please post these 3 pictures there! Thanks A Lot!

 

Looks like Techtree.com has a review up - http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/MSI_GX620/551-93412-616-1.html

 

128bit vs 256bit is a huge difference + I don't think you can compare a computer component to one of the xbox and playstation because they don't run Windows and other software, they're optimized to run games thus require a less powerful GPU to perform equal results compared to a PC.

I can't state if it would be able to run GTA IV smoothly though, time will tell I guess But as I've seen, this GPU is one of the best medium-high's out there!

@SplinteredVision

Thanks for posting the review! Been looking for ages for one!

 

Although this laptop does have the proper chipset that supports DDR3 RAM, MSI used DDR2 instead, so no, DDR3 will not work in this notebook.

6x AA is not available, so the benchmark is done with 8x AA instead.

Just so that you know, the RSX GPU in the PS3 is based off the Geforce 7900 series GPU. The 360's Xenos is based on ATi's R520 GPU, A.K.A. the Radeon X1800.

Copper heatpipes with aluminum heat fins. From this perspective, the heatsink measures 2" wide and 1/2" tall.

 

Thanks again TRF-Inferno!!!
These are great pictures.
I have 2 questions:
CPU shuts down at 105C, but what t junction has 9600N GT? 77C after 0.5h test looks a bit high! If it is not going to be 85C-90C - 77C is ok.
Does in other laptops this temperature is normal for videocard?
To TRF-Inferno - do You have Stalker Clear Sky? If Yes can You play it and post GPU temperatures there?
Why Clear sky - Crysis runs almost ok on my laptop, but Clear Sky i tested today and get no more than 9fps - which is fully unplayable.
First Stalker is also almost unplayable game on my laptop.
I don't know maybe this game is not for mid range videocards.
HDD burst performance is little confusing because i have the same 2 WD3200BEVT's in my laptop and both performs better than same drive in GX620! Is is very strange because my system definitely doesn't support SATA2, but this drive is SATA2! Do i presume right that GX620 supports only SATA1??? Pictures attached - one with slower burst is in bay slot. Can anyone answer this question? (Laptop IBM R60)

 

I'm not sure what the maximum thermal limit is on the GPU, but I will have to guess 110-120C. To be honest, 77C is not bad at all, considering I had a 8600M GT in a MBP hits 90C within 5-10 minutes, and a HD2600 in a Gateway doing close to 100C without throttling. 70C-80C seems to be the norm for laptops, considering that their cooling ability isn't as good as a desktop.

I don't have Stalker, but from prior experience, the game is very demanding on video cards -- it requires at least a Geforce 8800 or Radeon HD3800 for decent gameplay experience. I'm not sure if it is due to the lack of optimization or poor coding, but the game just doesn't run well on midrange or older cards. The 9600M GT is a good GPU, but remember -- it is basically a mildly overclocked 8600M GT.

Deviations in the results could mean anything -- my computer may have been accessing the drive during the benchmark, it is not defragmented, etc. I just installed this Vista on Monday, so the low result is probably due to the drive not being defragmented by Vista yet, I couldn't really give you a direct answer.

 

The GX620 comes with battery model BTY-M67.

Does anyone happen to know whether the older GX6XX batteries (BTY-M66) work properly with these laptops?

 

If the battery fits in there then it's fine.
These laptops were made with Intel CBB-compliant.

 

Awesome, thanks

 

I am currently considering buying one of the following laptops:
MSI GX620
Acer Aspire 6920g
Samsung R560 Aura M

I have tested both acer and samsung and acer is superior quality wise and also runs really cool (MAX 60 cpu both cores run in load at about 25 26 C each, using prime95 and hwmonitor) whereas the "beefier" samsung runs really hot (about 100+C running 3ds max 06).
Samsung's quality is good (everything you normally touch is ok but the underside gives of a cheap vibe).
My questions are:

1. Is the added performance of R560 worth dealing with such high temps.
2. Is MSI running dangerously hot ?! I've read that prior "gaming" models from msi actually melted and were serviced by replacing the mobo (gx600) without removing the underline cause of the problem.
Which one should i choose?

Also TRF-Inferno could you perhaps run prime95 for about 5-10 minutes and use coretemp (with graphic) so as to give me an ideea about the temps msi gx620 reaches. (i've seen the pics you posted earlyer but i'm a stickler for detail).

p.s. i know this is a msi thread but if anyonw know of other good laptop (desktop replacement - "gaming rig") for around 1000Euros please post or send me a pm. Many thankx

 

Sure thing, but I'll make it even harder. I used Orthos instead because it loads up multi-core processors better than Prime95, and I put maximum load on both CPU and GPU. Room temperature is 77 degrees Farenheit, no notebook cooler. Just plop it on a desk and have at it.



I can also attest that this notebook held up well in a car accident. I had it sitting in my backpack on the passenger seat on the way to work, and I got rear ended by a car while sitting at a traffic buildup. The backpack flew off the seat and hit the windshield really hard. I got home and checked on it, and the laptop is perfectly fine.

 

Omg, hope you were ok, also thanx for the reply (the really fast reply).

I know that both msi gx620 and samsung r560 have the Intel P7350 and as far as i know the maximum temp (global temp core #0 + core #1) for it is about 90-105 degrees celsius. I am worried that such high temps could potentially shorten the device's lifetime. Are my worries justified ?! The temps reached by the Acer A6920g and the multimedia touch control are the only things that make me want to buy that particular model.

p.s. i am trying to avoid any problems with overheating because the laptop will probably be heavily used (i will be my desktop replacement) and will probably handle anything from Photoshop cs3, 3ds max to crysis or cod4.
Also it is my understanding that the performance difference between ddr2 and dd3 is negligible (on laptops) is that true ?

 

The GX620 has a P8600, not the P7350. I wouldn't worry about this notebook's thermal management at all, the heatsink is designed quite well and the best part is that it's pretty quiet and only gets moderately loud at maximum load. I may try applying Arctic Silver 5 later on and that should drop the temperature by another 2-3C.

If you're talking about system memory, then yes, performance difference between DDR2 and DDR3 RAM is negligible. I think the only noticeable benefit DDR3 gives over DDR2 in notebook is the less voltage they use (1.5V opposed to 1.8V).

 

Yes i meant system memory not vram, i am aware that the vram frequency is considerably more important in games (and thus the difference between ddr2 and ddr3 vram si more noticeable).

Ok you put my mind at ease, but how high is too high of a temp for a laptop (what temp causes dmg or reduces the lifetime of the ntbk) ?

Thx again..

 

Hi,

Can You put the screen of 3dMark06 in ressolution 1280x1024?

Do someone has the version with P8400?

thx

 

Are you aware that the 6920g is the old version? There's a new one released, the 6930 and 6935...

 

Helo, the MSI GX620 is pretty cool. But I don't like the red trim. So i was searching for a similar laptop, and this is what i found.

http://www.xoticpc.com/force-3551-built-msi1651-order-p-2462.html

So I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the Force 3551 is the GX620, with just a silver trim??

 

They're pretty much the same laptop. I believe that they both have the same build and the only difference is that the GX620 come directly from the MSI manufacturer and the Force 3551 comes from the other Notebook Retailers ex: rkcomputers, xoticpc, Powernotebook..etc...

Also the other difference is that the GX620 has the Eco/Turbo Button Overclocking function...but from what I've seen in the other threads the Force 3551 for some strange reason has that function too.

 

PLEASE anyone make this available in Sweden QQ...

 

I can confirm that the Force 3551 or any other of the MSI 1651 related barebone rebrands, etc. do have the Turbo Overclock function. You just have to hit the space in between the Eco and Webcam.

 

Do you own a 3551? Just asking because your avatar shows a 3551 i think.

 

I own the MSI 1651 Barebone, which is basically the same thing as 3551 except no warranty

 

This laptop has been treating me exceptionally well so I figured I'll give it a special treat. Just because I'm so curious to see if the Turbo OC will push a Core 2 Extreme X9100 to 3.6GHz, I finally found and bought one. I'll post up the results once it arrives.

 

Anyone know where I can buy a MSI GX620-038US? the $1299 one?? I dying because of waiting to buy one!!

 

I feel your pain They said mid october for Belgium, just hold on

 

See one here.
http://www.frostycomputers.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=038&Search.x=0&Search.y=0

 

hi all!

for all the gx620 users. don`t you thing the screen (even with the highest lavel of lighting) is too dark?? What do u think about this? When I compared it with my LCD LG L1919S I was broken :/ Isn`t it too dark?

 

This seems to be pretty typical for matte laptop LCD screens. I actually think the GX620's screen is actually brighter than normal. If you think this screen is dim, have a look at the Thinkpad T61p's 15.4" 1920x1200 matte screen.

 

Hi all,

I'm gonna order MSI GX620 today, so i want to ask a few questions.

I'm buying from Frostycomputers. But availability is like this : subject to availability. What does this mean? Does this mean they are out of stock??

And also this laptop has the P8600 processor. Can I upgrade it to a T9600??

 

Frosty probably means that they don't have it in stock at the moment, but will have it in stock.
Your processor can be upgraded to: T9400 P9500 T9600 X9100 and perhaps Q9100 and QX9300

 

Here are the official test results for both of those notebooks:

http://www.notebookcheck.pl/Recenzja-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T61p.4415.0.html
(find "obraz" and scroll down)

http://www.notebookcheck.pl/Recenzja-MSI-GX620.11704.0.html

about 50 cd/m^ more for Thinkpad so MSI is definitely not brighter

 

Okay, I stand corrected. I guess I should have looked at the T61p's brightness setting before assessing it, because the one I looked at was awfully dim.

 

For the GX620/MS-1651 owners out there, you can overclock your 9600M GT with nVidia's new System Tools. However, it is not perfect at the moment, since the software will only allow you to apply shader clock changes, but will give an error prompt if you try to force new core and/or memory clock. For the time being, I used it to match the 9700M GT's shader clock.



What does this translate to? About 200 extra points to 3dMark06 score, 3 FPS average increase in Crysis (I went from ~27FPS to 30.7FPS at 1280x960 resolution, medium settings), but in return the GPU temperature jumped up by about 5C. Is the performance increase worth the temperature increase? You decide. I will most likely return it to factory clock speed once the X9100 arrives.

 

Does anyone know how to reprogram the rewind and forward media keys (on the top of the panel next to the Eco button) so that they are for up and down on volume? Annoys me to have to press FN + F7 or F8 everytime for voume.