A correction to your post. BGA chips can not be deliddedReason... It has never had IHS
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i was playing battlefield 1 and i noticed that whatever settings i choose it doesn't lock on 120fps all the time. just like in this video. If i choose low settings the gpu usage will be reduced to 50 to 60% but the fps is still playing around 100 to 120fps, same with ultra settings the only difference is that the gpu usage is 80 to 99%. is it normal or do i have to do something
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I figured I would add my 2 cents to help push you.
Everything @Phoenix is spot on, I would just like to emphasize that you don't have to be an expert to get great performance out of this laptop. I'm a amateur overclocker, before this laptop I had OCed two gaming PCs to the max then dropped it down a bit and left them that way for years, not a lot of hands on. Today, I use DGC to get my CPU to 4.1 and GPU to a +100/150 OC which has been set to my Gaming profile, I just click that profile and launch my games. This machine will satisfy me as well as some of the seasoned veterans around here.
After following a lot of threads here and helping a friend with a lemon GS62VR I would suggest buying it from a company that will honor a refund. @hmscott mentioned some of the benefits of buying retail and would echo that, if you start to have problem return it within the refund period and get another one. The RMA through MSI has proven to be a lengthy and frustrating process.
I bought my first "gaming" laptop in 1998, an IBM Thinkpad with 32 Mb of dedicated VRAM, woo hoo! This is my 6th one and the first one bought by the same company and the first one to out perform the desktop I was using at the time. It's a beast and a pleasure to use.hmscott, Rynaus and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
I running with Vsync on fast, Gsync on fullscreen in NVCP, I have a 120 FPS cap set with Rivatuner and am currently trying out using the in game FPS limit. I get drops but smooth play and low input lag.hmscott and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
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2) What are your settings? GSYNC? VSYNC? Try VSYNC set to FAST and GSYNC ONhmscott likes this. -
@Phoenix Thanks! I'm looking forward meeting you
Do you think that thermals affect performance on laptops?
I sort of wanted to go with Asus G701VI-XS72K but didn't... look at it's ram... isn't it great?
Display
17.3" 1920 x 1080 IPS Full HD (16:9) LED Backlit Antiglare Type Display w/ 178° Viewing Angle, 120Hz Refresh Rate
nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - synchronizes display refresh rates to the graphics processor to enable ultra smooth gameplay
Video Graphics & Memory
nVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1080 256bit w/ 8.0GB GDDR5X - DX12
Processor Support
and
Heat Management
Intel® 7th Generation Core™ i7-7820HK Quad Core Processor, 2.9 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.9GHz), 8MB Smart Cache
Optional:
IC Diamond Advanced Thermal Compound
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU - BEST PERFORMANCE
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 bit (Standard),
Optional:
Windows 7 64 bit Pro or Ultimate
Chipset Mobile Intel® CM236
System Memory (RAM)
32GB DDR4 2800MHz System Memory (2 x 16GB) - 4 Memory Slots
Optional:
Expandable up to 64GB DDR4/2800MHz System Memory
Hard Drive
512GB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD in RAID 0 (2x 256GB)
Optional:
Higher Capacity PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD
Supports RAID 0 or 1 (2 x PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs)
Optical Drive
None
Optional:
External Optical Drive - DVDRW or Bluray Writer
Card Reader SDXC
Video Camera Built-in 1.2MP HD Web Camera
LAN/WLAN
Intel Wireless-AC 8260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 WLAN + Bluetooth 4.2
Optional:
Killer N1535 Wireless-AC 2x2 WLAN + Bluetooth 4.1
Input/Output
1 x Microphone-in jack
1 x Headphone-out jack (SPDIF)
1 x Type C - Thunderbolt 3
1 x USB 3.1 Type C
3 x USB 3.0 port(s)
1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
1 x HDMI
1 x SD card reader
1 x AC adapter plug
Audio Built-in Speakers And Digital Array Microphone
Built-in subwoofer
Keyboard and Touchpad Red Backlit Anti-ghosting Gaming Keyboard
Battery 6 cell Li-ion Battery Pack - 93WHrs, 3S2P - up to 4 hours
AC Adapter Output: 330W
Input: 100-240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal
Dimension & Weight
16.9"x 12.2x 1.32~1.52" (WxDxH) (429 x 310 x 33 ~ 39 mm)
7.92 lbs (3.52 Kg)
Talking about MSI that I ordered now...
In videos I saw that there is an empty space next to the SSD's... a huge space for something and my guess is that it's meant for another GPU...
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My specs are 7820hk, 16gb ram, gtx 1080, full hd 120hz. 1tb hd, 256 ssd.
G sync is on in the control panel, vertical sync is on, v sync is off in the game settings.
I can get it to play at 120fps but there are some fps drops. It can reach up to 80s and 90s sometimes specially during clashes with many enemies but what i don't understand is that the gpu usage is around 80 to 99%. So i tried lowering the settings until the lowest preset to maintain a lock on 120fps but still there are drops to 90s but the gpu usage is around 50 to 60%hmscott likes this. -
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then set your GPU to High Performance or Adaptive rather than the default Optimal setting then reboot and try againDonald@Paladin44 and Papusan like this. -
@RalfTech It depends what kind of temperatures you are talking about. Generally exceeding certain levels of temperatures lead to reduced performance.
i believe you have made a great choice. As far as Asus is concerned, i have not heard anything good about the laptops. Moreover @Phoenix has tried asus laptop and after listening to his experience, i am sure to never go for asus.
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To reassure your decision, i had discussions with @Donald@HIDevolution and @Phoenix. And i have also decided to go for Msi GT73VR w/ GTX 1080. I earlier wanted to go for AW 17 R4 but with all the issues people are facing and thermal not yet resolved completely after some changes to heatsinks i think it would be foolish to throw in my money for that.
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To answer your last question, i would suggest looking at the latest comments on review post by Phoenix for his MSI GT73VR 7RF.
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I have another concern, there's a time that i was about to play battlefield 1 and i forgot to plug in the charger. I noticed the fps was low so i plugged it in, however the fps didn't increase even if the charger was plugged in. I restarted the laptop and the problem was solved. To further investigate, I tried to plug out the charger in the middle of the game and the fps decreased to 30fps as expected but when i plugged it back again, the fps increased to 120fps. Is this normal? I'm still eligible to return this for replacement until saturday so I'm checking every corner for problems.
Here's a video of reenactment, first part is i forgot to plug in the charger before playing a battlefield 1
2nd video, i plugged off the charger while playing battlefield 1
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Thank you guys for the amazing comments!
@Phoenix could you help me to unlock the bios when I receive it?Maverick389 and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
With the power plugged in you will still get reduced power to the system until the battery reaches a level of charge, I think it may be %80. I discovered this when I went to play BF1 after traveling and the battery was really low, I had really low performance until the battery charged up. So if the battery was low in the first example then you would have the low FPS, in the second example it seem like you were above that threshold so the FPS shot back up when plugging it back in.
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My unit is packed away now, I only had the one experience with it, most of the time I'm plugged in so I rarely let the battery get too low. Are you able to duplicate this every time?
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If you do, then do this:
And yes, set your plan to prefer max performance or adaptive, NEVER Optimalhmscott likes this. -
just ordered this beast and awaiting delivery. do you guys think i should get the warranty before it ships out to me? ive never owned a msi...not sure what to do.
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So i am into the final checks for my configuration of MSI GT73VR 7RF. Pretty excited.
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When you get it, register it with MSI, then you will receive an extra 3 months worth of warranty.
You can't register it now as you need its serial number and a little check code that's printed under the laptop
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thanks for the advice. so skip the extended 4 year warranty? i mean, i probably will upgrade in 2 years so should i even bother with the extended warranty?
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@Phoenix would you advise to go for the HIDevolution 1 year global warranty as i am going to order the laptop or just the standard first option we get for 1 year Msi warranty?
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Luckily, the MSI comes with a free 1 year global warranty + accidental damage so unless you want to extend it to 2 years, then leave it as it is.
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Phoenix, have you tried playing a hevc file with hdr like say....a lucy uhd bluray file throught the hdmi port? can the laptop play the file @ 60fps with hdr through the hdmi port or through the thunderbolt 3 port?
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I use SVP to play all my movies @ 120FPS but on HDMI only @ 60 FPS since my Sony TV has a max refresh rate of 60hz
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is your sony tv 4k with hdr 10 support?
i backup my ultra hd blurays which play at 4k with hdr on a bluray player. does the laptop have any issues in reproducing the picture quality with this type of file?
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I communicated with @Donald@HIDevolution by email today. My system is held up temporarily waiting for the Prema BIOS to be available. This also will let me run the fast RAM that I ordered with it (I figured the RAM was worth it -- go big or go home). ETA is early March, I think. Agony of waiting, but Prema BIOS is totally worth it.
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Do you think that there will be GPU upgrades available later?
Is the CPU even upgradable on this machine?
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I don't think anything. When a new GPU is out, it's out, stop looking into the future brah.
CPU is not up gradable, it's soldered onto the motherboard
How long did that order take? 6 business days because I paid 50 USD extra for a rush build so don't expect the same. These questions should be directed to HIDevolution for more details upon your orderDonald@Paladin44 likes this. -
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Once you use SVP, you will NEVER watch anything without it and once you go to the movie theater and watch a movie there, you will think what the heck is this, it's so jerky / choppy compared to what your eyes will be accustomed to with SVP
once you install SVP and it runs its benchmark and configures itself
exit SVP, then launch it again normally not by right clicking and choosing Run As Admin otherwise you will get an error in MPC_HC saying error communicating with SVP
MSI notebook order thread: post your orders here
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