MSI gx660r-060 is what we've been waiting for

Fellows, Does it come with a mouse from MSI??

 

Can some one please tell me the difrentes betwin the gx660r an gx660??

I know the 660r has raid0 and trial-chanel and a FHD screen, but dows the gx660 hase de secound hd bay with conector(and not only the HD)? and does it have the 3th memory slot (just not filed in stock mode)

Becouse if sow i wold buy a gx660 and buy later the memoru dim (2gb 1333) and a secound hdd to make raid0, i wold only lose the FHD screnn with i dont really need....

Bguards m8s

 

Thanks for the tests, thats nice temps for such a good performer. Wondering how would stock fans do...

IBT had some issues in the past not stressing i7, i was hoping this new 2.5 version was able to, maybe have to be setup in the options, was reading for desktops to use 8 cores, but not sure, never own an i7 qm. I think joker ran just prime95 and was more stresful than IBT in i7.

Well you going to do it sooner or later, so why not .

 

I'm very satisfied with all temps so far.
Just to let you know with the TURBO fan mode furmark temps droped to 78c after a minute or so.
I'm liking this laptop more and more everyday, I think it's a great choice new gaming laptop.People have complained about the looks but I think it really looks good.
Off to work for me
I'll give the OOCT a shot once I get home,
Do I have to run it for a full hour to get a good reading?

 

Sorry No Mouse or Backpack.

As you stated it mainly comes down to the Display, Ram, Hard Drive and Processor. The GX660 has the same amount of Ram Dimms as the GX660R. It also has a 2nd Hard Drive Bay. However the Bracket for the 2nd Hard Drive bay is not included on the GX660 by default. You can always upgrade the GX660 to have the same amount of Ram, Hard Drives and CPU as the GX660R comes with.

 

Could you guys that have the SSD in this machine do a bench on it to check if this computer is also having the 4k random read/write issues with the PM55?

 

What's your score with ff14 benchmark at high or low resolution? You can try high resolution even if your monitor is not full hd.

 

Except using the Xotic configuration selection for the GX660 which oddly limits the CPU choice to max out at an I7-720.

 

Could someone answer this please ?

 

If you want an i7 your better off just getting the 060 model and deleting the Blu-Ray drive. Upgrading the others just makes them all more expensive with less hardware.

 

There is currently no laptop with sata III. However, there is verty little to gain by using the crucial with the sata III. It's one of the fastest SSDs out there, and it almost saturates the sata II bandwith. It also has some kind of new flash memory, and it is a better choice than the sandforce controled ssds in my opinion, since the sandforce based drives get their speed by compressing data whereas the crucial works with uncompressed data, and is as fast or faster than the sandforce based drives.
When i'll be gettin this laptop in october, i'll be gettin the 128 crucial ssd and the 1tb hdd for storage. Unless intel release their 3rd gen ssd by then, but i don't think so.

Goin for the crucial instead of the seagate is the better choice. It is worth each and every penny, and it is even worth to not eat for a week if that is what it takes to get the crucial instead of the seagate. However, if you can't and can't then the seagate hibrid drive is the next best choice for speed, but overall, nothing can be faster than a correctly chosen ssd.

 

Definetly ssd and hdd combo is the best choice. even raided hybrids wont be as fast as a ull blown ssd. Because the ssd has exceptional fast read time. ANd that's the thing that makes a difference.

As crucial ssd 128gb, real ssd, may be the best choice for the money NOW, intel is gonna launch the 3rd gen models in q4 and where gonna have x25m 160 320 and 640gb model. We can only speculate about the pricing and performance. If the biggest model is gonna be priced the same as the biggest model in the 2nd gen, than the 320gb model may be the same price as the crucial 128gb model. But it's only speculation. We need to wait until q4 to acctualy see what is worth it and what is not.

 

Thanks bytales. This is the configuration I am thinking about then after reading through all of this thread:

MSI GX660R-060US - Gaming Laptop
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- 1 Year "No Dead Pixel" Guarantee
- - Intel® Core™ i7-740QM, 1.73-2.93GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache) - Standard
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU (Cools better than all Compounds)
- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- - 6,144MB (6GB) DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2GBx3)
- Standard Finish
- - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8X DVDRW Drive w/ Software
- - 128GB Crucial C300 Solid State Drive (SSD Serial-ATA III)
- - 500GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)
- No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay (When adding Hard Drive, Optical Drive Is Removed)
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO)
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- No Network Accessory
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- No Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Pre-Installed + Drivers & Utilities Disk
- No thanks, do not create backup recovery DVD's
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 2 Year MSI US Parts & Labor 1 Year Global Warranty w/ Lifetime Tech Support

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Comes in just under $2k - not bad considering I started off looking at Alienware that with a comparable config would probably be closer to $3k. Actually, it would be interesting to call AW and see how low I could negotiate the price knowing that I have a backup plan and nothing to lose. My only negative on the MSI is I wish it was a bit more discrete. I don't know why gaming laptop makers assume everyone is a spiky haired punk rocker enthralled by flashing lights. Most of the folks who have the money to afford these rigs have jobs and would like to take their PCs into business settings without looking like they are carrying a disco ball! lol

 

FYI the M15x is huge compared to this laptop and weighs about 3Lbs more.
And it comes with a 5850, which is not bad but the 5870 is better which we all know.
The lights are not that bright and pretty inconspicuous, last time I checked the AW had lights too

 

Good point, even if I got them down to the same price I'd much prefer a smaller footprint.

 

Ikas,

Can you please help me on how to exactly apply the IC diamond 7 stuff. It's so stiff and the dot method stated on the website looks kinda sketchy. After cleaning of the CPU and Gpu with alcohol of course! I have the same laptop as you btw =P

 

First soak the ICD7 in a cup of warm water fir about 5 minutes to soften it up, that's the whole tube....lol.
That's the only thing I don't like about it, it took a lot of trial and error to get it right.

 

alrite so i soak the the whole tube in warm water and then i just use the dot method described on the website? sounds easy enough lol =S. And how do i make sure there is enough pressure for the paste to spread out, do i just screw down the heatsink or are there any extra steps? Lol i heard this stuff is great, it's just super hard to get on.

 

I press the heasink down with a little pressure and wiggle it around a bit.
This stuff is thick so I lay a rice size blob down and check to see if it's covered well.If not just apply a bit more.
There is no perfect way but this method works for me.

 

Color saturation is kind of hidden haha. Open the Ati CCC, then Desktop&Display setting, and on the bottom left you will see a laptop icon shown with a tiny black arrow pointing downwards on the icons top right corner. Click that and select configure then the color tab.

Enjoy MUCH better colors.

I use my config with a bit less brightness, a bit more contrast an 130 saturation for optimum enjoyment!

I'm currently working on my review too.

 

Okay thanks a lot for all your help, I'll be sure to post some benchmarks and tests with and without the IC 7 in a few days, and what methods worked best for me

 

No problem!
That's what these forums are for. Good luck.

 

No, the forums are for me to make remarks about Ikas' choice of avatar. ZIIING.

But for paste, I do the spread method instead of glob'n'smoosh. I'll put a thin line along the die and use a tool like a razor or a putty knife to massage the paste into a nice thin layer. I personally like this method.

About to start OCCT PSU test.


EDIT: Well, this does not bode well. About a minute into the actual testing, it looks like my PSU conks out and I'm reduced to battery power. I've tried with two different power strips and also directly plugged into the wall, so that's not the issue. Replugging the PSU in fixes the battery-only problem.

I guess the PSU can't handle stress of that magnitude. Ikas, Ry, care to test as well? CPU settings of 64-bit Linpack and hyperthreading enabled. GPU at 1024x768 with default Shader Complexity.

 

Wouldn't that cause a certain amount of air bubbles though?

 

You'll get air bubbles anyway. This way you can ensure you have a nice even spread before putting the heatsink down.

See this argument.

 

You gotta be kidding me, look at yours, what do we have some chick with glasses and WTH is that blue thing that hippie dude holding....
Oh i will run the test but 1 thing for some reason the GPU and PSU area is greyed out and i cant access it, anyway here goes

 

Results!
I still dont know whats going on

 

the psu that come with msi gx660r are supposed to be 150w right?

 

They are 120W

 

It's a wooden sword wrapped in a cloth. If he bleeds on it some runes pop up on it and it can chop up zombies and stuff.

Anyway, that's weird. I can run either Linpack or OCCT GPU just fine, but doing PSU test conks out my PSU.

Must investigate.

Rob, if you have a test model handy, could you check this out, too?



EDIT: Hmm, looks like if I uncheck hyperthreading in the PSU Test options I can run the test without the PSU conking out. Thirty minutes of torture, here I come.

EDIT2: I take that back. About three minutes in it conked out again.

 

Heh so many ways to put this stuff on... I think I will just heat it up and use the pea method sounds the easiest... But thanks for all your help . Btw anyone know how much faster the c300 120gb is compared to the intel 80gb g2 ssd? I am trying to decide whether to stick with the 80gb and get the bluray player, or get no bluray and get the c300... Decisions, decisions...

 

Test done per your request and the results are the same:

- Shut off in about 5 minutes

- When try to turn the machine back on again the power lights will blink for one second and won't turn on.

- had to discharge the AC adapter before I can turn it back on again.

 

Will the Targus 180w universal adapter work for the 660r?

 

Its not a big deal, not like any game will push it to those lvls. Btw have you tried Furmark + IBT to see if the same behavior happens or just with OCCT?

 

Woah, that's worse than mine. Mine just reverts to battery power and I have to off/on the powerstrip to get it detected again.

Hmm. My Asus G51vx PSU has the same ratings as the Liteon one that comes with the GX660R. Let's see...

I know I know. It's just that I want my machine to be able to withstand stress. I'll try IBT+Furmark in a bit. I'm running OCCT with my Asus G51vx adapter right now.


EDIT: Five minutes in and the Asus PSU is going strong. Liteon piece of crap.

EDIT2: Test self-aborted at 5:53 because "CPU is too hot". However, there was no PSU shutdown. Conclusion: Stock PSU licks goats.

EDIT3: Rerunning test with max temperature ceiling increased to 100C. I'm going to be carefully monitoring my temps.

 

I was tested with Asus PSU, didn't bring the MSI PSU home.

 

What settings? Did you leave hyperthreading on? I'm running a test now with GPU at default settings and CPU with 64-bit Linpack but no hyperthreading.

By the way, how do you discharge an AC adapter? you know, in case it happens to me, haha.



EDIT: About twelve minutes in the Asus PSU conked out. Power hungry sucker.

EDIT2: Thoroughly happy with my GPU temperatures (though CPU still makes me squirm a bit). The behavior I noticed was that when the GPU hit 82C or so, the fan would kick in higher--about the same level of noice as my 94C threshold on my G51vx--and it would then drop to 79C, where fan noise would drop to a noise level akin to my 86C threshold on my Asus. Repeat ad infinitum. I would've gone for the full 20 minutes, but what was the point?

70F ambient, Furmark settings as seen in screenshot. Computer mounted on passive Xpad cooler.

 

http://dl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/media/FFXIVBenchmark.zip

 

Does anyone know what the Intel Turbo Boost driver is for? Its on the driver page but wont install on my system. Msi's documentation leave's much to be desired.
Actually, while i'm at it. Does anyone still have their unformatted laptop, what is the name of the camera software that comes pre installed? I've formatted mine, and forgot the name.. not the 'camerarecorder' app, but there was another one. Someone should make a list of all the stuff that came on it, there was power2go or something like that.. a camera app and a norton trial, i remember that much.

 

Hey Forge, Ryzeki..
Did you guys take the stickers off the palmrest yet?
What a PITA they seem superglued on and separate when you try to peel off leaving the sticky part.
What did you guys use to get them off?

 

Does it support digital audio output like the gx740 with an adapter?

 

GPU temps are pretty impressive for one cooler setup, i remember the G73 had a 95C club (not sure what sensor was though), but still 80C with no active cooler seems a great setup. The i7 run hot, at least from what i remember, even the mighty sagers reached 80C+ in benchmarks, given that we are not used to those temps with our crappy c2d, seems this is normal for i7 quads. I personally dont do anything to heavy on the laptop besides gaming, so i might just go with high clock i5, but seems most of the pre assemble laptops are coming with i7... so will see. Either way this laptop seems to be a really nice option or alternative in the 15'' market.

 

Ikas, the best way to remove the sticky residue is to use a product like gooGone. I've tried it before and it really works.... Not too expensive either. Here's the link: GooGone Goo Gone 4oz Bottle

And amazon: Amazon.com: Goo Gone Remover Citrus Power: Kitchen & Dining

 

Will that ruin the plastic finish, I've seen the stuff but it seems caustic.

 

Not sure on that one. You might have to call them and ask... But also you can try using isopropyl alcohol or ronsonol ( lighter fluid). I searched around on a few forums and they say only the goo gone spray ruins the plastic but I would still be cautious...

 

Have to say, I'm interested in this notebook. But with Forge's comments about the PSU, I'm a little leery at the moment.....

 

wow even asus psu worked for this beast? btw which asus unit psu did you guys tried on? from what i know off, asus g73jh and this msi gx660r come with 150w psu.

 

The PSU is fine it only went wonky when stessed by a benchmark that will never come close to regular everyday and gaming use.

 

Do you know if the Targus 180w universal adapter will work the the GX660r?

 

maybe we should make an owners lounge or something for this machine cause this thread was supposed to be for early speculation lol