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    MSI MS-1651 Montevina BTO Notebook Barebone

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by masterbw, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Too funny... :) No, it doesn't mean the owner.

    That is our Mission Statement. We are a Christian company and we strive to serve Him (our living triune God), our customers, our fellow workers and our vendors according to the teachings of our Savior Jesus Christ in a way that will glorify His name.

    PowerPro P 15:3 = Proverbs 15:3 "The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good"
     
  2. wisedude

    wisedude Notebook Consultant

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    There's definitely no fingerprint reader on this right? Xotic PC has had it listed as a component of this laptop for months
     
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    That is correct, there is no fingerprint reader.

    Not to nitpick, but this model has only been available for pre-order for less than a month...are you sure you are remembering the right model on their website?
     
  4. wisedude

    wisedude Notebook Consultant

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    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    You're right, but all pictures as well as Donald tells us that there are no fingerprint readers

    Of course.. theres the possibility it's hidden beneath a secret latch and no one knows about it except XoticPC :eek: !
     
  6. wisedude

    wisedude Notebook Consultant

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    lol, I'm not doubting Donald. I'm more wondering why xotic pc has left it up there for a month
     
  7. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    Guess they're just too lazy to fix their mistakes :p
    XoticPC does seem to update slower than PNB
     
  8. Freiddie

    Freiddie Newbie

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    That's what the 15:3 means? :eek:
     
  9. ArchAngel777

    ArchAngel777 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the information. Anyone who is looking for a custom laptop, I'll send your way in the future.

    I have a few questions for you in regards to the PowerPro P 15:3. Does the machine get very hot? I am currently using my trusty Acer with a Celeron M 1.73Ghz CPU + GMA950 and the machine is very cool the fan is barely noticable and is barely on. I know for a fact that this MSI-1651 based laptop has to run a heck of a lot hotter being that it will be paired with a dual core and dedicated GPU. So if you or anyone else know the following:

    1) Is the 1280x800 version in stock generally?
    2) Does the fan get loud and does it constantly turn on and off every few minutes?
    3) Does the Laptop switch to Integrated Video when 3D Horsepower is not required?
    4) Can this thing sit on your lap confortably, or are we talking a fire hazard?
    5) Battery life? Will this thing last more than 75 minutes surfing the web?

    The machine looks really nice in the pictures.
     
  10. wisedude

    wisedude Notebook Consultant

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    I can answer some of your questions based on what I've read.

    1. nothing is in stock, it's still a preorder. If they didn't get it friday they'll be getting them in the next few days
    3. No, it doesn't switch to integrated graphics, ever
    5. Yes, it will last more than 75 minutes surfing the web. should last at least 2 hours just surfing
     
  11. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    wisedude & sxusteven Thanks for pointing out this typo in our specifications page with the FP Reader. It has been updated and corrected. :)
     
  12. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks for taking time and correcting it :)

    May I ask for what reason did you up the pricing for WSGXA+? :(
    Just when I started to consider it since it's matte, the price is now $99 from the previous $60 >_<
     
  13. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    The reason for the new increase is originally we expected the first shipment of 1651-WSXGA+ models to be in a plastic black/silver trim. Instead they came in the better looking Black Brushed Aluminum (which unfortunately was at a slightly higher price). If you pre-ordered before the increase you are locked in at the lower price. :) We have updated our picture gallery with the updated pictures of both screens.
     
  14. robvya

    robvya Notebook Evangelist

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    there is viking that has that laptop but he doesnt have alot of time to play with the laptop so... i guess we will have someone other advice...

    what i want to know is the benchmark, built quality, flex keyboard or chasis, and if it gets hot

    and **** i should of pre-orderd from xoticpc :( could of saved 100$ from previous setting
     
  15. someguyoverthere

    someguyoverthere Notebook Evangelist

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    The only thing I want to know is when my laptop is going to ship. This is becoming tiresome. I could have had a laptop in my hands from a local place 3 weeks ago.
     
  16. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    For any questions relating to order info please use my email address below.
     
  17. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    Oh crap, now this means I need to look up all the corresponding Proverbs for the other Power Pro models....I can't help it, curiousity will be the death of me....

    And robvya,

    unless I am reading this wrong, you are spending only $30 more since you didn't jump in early, not $100.
     
  18. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    alright, sorry for posting too the questions here

    edit: alright, the matte pwnageness got to me >_<... sent an e-mail for change :eek:
     
  19. Tiden2008

    Tiden2008 Notebook Guru

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    Some of them aren't Psalms, some of them are from other books. Ex. PowerPro I 8:17 (17in version of the P 15:3). I'm assuming I means Isaiah.
     
  20. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    yes, I know...I was a bit too quick with the Proverbs citation (not psalms....)

    That dirty rotten Paladin wants me to read the whole blinking book.....my wife can't figure out why I'm so interested in the Bible all the sudden.

    I fear she is going to be disappointed :eek:
     
  21. wisedude

    wisedude Notebook Consultant

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    Justin, you still have it saying "fingerprint reader" in the graphical header on the specs page
     
  22. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    It was updated also maybe refresh or clear your cache?
     
  23. robvya

    robvya Notebook Evangelist

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    no i havent pre-ordered anything yet im waiting for review and all that, i guess i can wait a bit.
     
  24. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    the fingerprint reader is definately gone, I checked it

    The total cost more for not pre ordering WSGXA+ is $39 + tax
     
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    We tested a few different configurations for battery life:

    WSXGA
    Vista X32
    T9400
    6 Cell Battery
    WLAN, BT, Camera, ON
    MSI, ECO Turbo Battery mode

    1.5Hrs Playing DVD
    1.8Hrs Browsing, Word, Office, ETC

    WSXGA
    Vista X32
    P9500
    6 Cell Battery
    WLAN, BT, Camera, ON
    MSI, ECO Turbo Battery mode

    1.8Hrs Playing DVD
    2.0Hrs Browsing, Word, Office, ETC


    WSXGA
    Vista X32
    P9500
    9 Cell Battery
    WLAN, BT, Camera, ON
    MSI, ECO Turbo Battery mode

    2.6Hrs Playing DVD
    2.8Hrs Browsing, Word, Office, ETC


    3DMark06 Results---5124 3D Marks

    WSXGA
    Vista X32
    T9400
    4GB OCZ 800Mhz Dual Channel
    200GB 7200RPM Seagate G-Force
    6 Cell Battery
    WLAN, BT, Camera, Off
    ECO, Off-Vista High Performance mode
    Stock Drivers, off of CD.



    We are currently running Vista X64 and will post the results ASAP.
     
  26. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    The fan works really well.

    The laptop stays fairly cool but I wouldn't sit it on your laptop. Part of the reason it stays so cool probably has to do with the fact that it has a bunch of vents on the bottom that you'd probably plug by setting it on your lap. One of those $10-$25 lap desks would probably do the trick.
     
  27. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    Yeah, sorry. Between moving, getting all my stuff stolen and new job I haven't had much time to play around. And really, I'm not much of a hardware guy so a review from me would be gibberish. Really, I can only relate this to my experience with the Compal IFL90 which was also a great machine.
     
  28. robvya

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    thanks for your time noclue
     
  29. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    3DMarks on this laptop is nice, but to be honest, I was expecting longer battery life! You know.. More around the 2.5hour zone with casually surfing word or internet >_<. Ah well...

    Looks like there is a significant power consumption difference between the P9500 and T9400. 20% for DVDs, and 11% on Word.
     
  30. someguyoverthere

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    I ordered mine with a P8600 (25 watt). Will that extend the battery life to roughly 2.5hrs for casual browsing and word processing?
     
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    and eco battery on is that the option that make the laptop get more battery life? so if normal mode that means the battery life is more shortened?
     
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    Justin, is it possible to order the Force 3551 without any logos on it?
     
  34. Justin@XoticPC

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    ^ Our logo has a adhesive backing that can be removed easily if you wish. :)
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm planning to pimp out my MSI-1651 hard from whichever vendor I end buying from - but I really like the idea of having a simple plain black laptop without any logos.

    That brushed black aluminum with the WSXGA screen looks fabulous though. Easily worth the extra dough.
     
  36. Justin@XoticPC

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    ^ I agree with you. The brushed aluminum looks very nice. :)
     
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    Correct, as you change to any of the other modes the battery life will now decrease.
     
  38. robvya

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    i guess its worth picking up the 9-cell. Justin, i wondered if i decided to pre-order the MSI-1651, and in like i dont know... 2-3 month i have the money to order a 9 cell battery. Can i do that? and do you have any 9-cell battery?
     
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    The brushed black WSXGA model does not have the cutout for a logo on the lid (A Panel). The WXGA, silver/black does.
     
  40. wisedude

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    so does that mean it won't even be branded if its WSXGA?
     
  41. sxusteven

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    it's still branded at the bottom of the screen I believe
     
  42. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    You would have to ask your reseller, the typical logo inset is not on this model.
     
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    Looking at the pics of the WSXGA chassis makes me want that too, but I think it's too late for that...
     
  44. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    I think XoticPC allows you to change as long as your order is not shipped :)
    Anyways, I sent an email begging for change :p
     
  45. someguyoverthere

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    At this point the change will cost $100 and will likely delay my order. I don't think I want to do that. That doesn't mean I don't want the better screen and chassis.

    If the canadian dollar goes up significantly tomorrow (not likely) then I'll consider it.
     
  46. sxusteven

    sxusteven Notebook Evangelist

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    I see. I had a balance of $90.82 at XoticPC, so I figured, why not use it to get the matte screen (didn't realize it was matte until Friday, otherwise I would've added the $60 instead) I always wanted? Even though I'm only going to pay $8.18, I wouldn't mind the CAD going + as well :)

    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    BTW, does anyone know what it says here?
    [​IMG]
     
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    It says 15.4" Widescreen :)
     
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    Paladin,

    Will we be able to remove the PNB logo from the WSXGA+ screens? You said they have no place to inset the logos, so I am assuming it will be an adhesive that will be possible to remove? I like the look of a bare brush metal aluminum lid.
     
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    ^--^
    Have you looked at the pictures of the WSXGA+ PowerPro P 15:3 on our website? There is no label on the Black Brushed Aluminum LCD lid.
     
  50. gonwk

    gonwk Notebook Deity

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    Hi Paladin,

    Wowwww ... you guys really have outdone yourself ... GREAT Pictures ...

    THANKS!

    G! :)
     
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