GTX 1070 MXM 1BA1 1BE1 switch possible?

Hang on nearly finished doing the download of Standard drivers will get you a modded inf for you quickly.

Then i am off to look for a Vaping Battery mod, my one just bellowed a lot of magic smoke after replacing batteries

 

Rght give this a try.

Its standard driver version 431.60

 

Ok thanks i try that asap!

 

code error 43... I guess i'm just doomed here. Thank you a lot for your help man... I really don't see what I can do... can it be a hardware problem on the GPU?

 

good luck on your battery mod, I hope it will work well!

 

Is the GT72VR dedicated GPU only or does it have Optimus I know it doesn't have a MUX switch like like my GT72.

Also will check for another vbios.

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yes because of the gsync there is no Intel graphic, only the NVIDIA gpu

 

Give this tool a try https://egpu.io/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/attachments/3/6824-nvidia-error43-fixer112.zip its ment to fix error 43.

Simply extract the file and run nvidia-error43-fixer.bat

Source: https://egpu.io/nvidia-error43-fixer

 

okay I'll check. I saw it actually but i tought it was only for egpu .. i'll try it out and keep you posted Tomorrow

 

If I follow your thinking, do you think the error code 43 come from the fact I dont have intel HD integrated GPU?
I asked to msi long time ago where was my Integrated HD intel GPU and they told me that since GTX10xx GPU, they dont put integrated graphic GPU anymore in the laptops because Pascal GPU can have a very low power consumption in eco mode, just like integrated intel GPU.

If that's the reason why 1BA1 Vbios lead to a code 43 error, maybe a 1BE1 Vbios has to be tweaked in order to work on a 1BA1 card... maybe there are some kind of power usage optimizations commands that are supposed to work with an integrated Intel HD GPU, and considering there are none, it stays in code 43.
What do you think ?

 

If you have no MUX switch its simply Dedicated GPU all the way, which means Intel GPU is not even active. As for using a 1BE1 Vbios on a 1BA1 GPU you could try with a programmer, just download a vbios dump from the GT62-6RE with UHD (Which means it should be 1BA1) http://download.msi.com/archive/frm_exe/nb/MSI_N17E-G2_86.04.31.00.0C_non-GSYNC.zip and try that.

Not sure why its Code 43'ing on you at all unless MSI put in extra blocks in the EC/UEFI Bios.

 

i tried with this vbios, code 43 again....
yes maybe something in the bios?

 

which software do you use on windows for HW programming ?
Also I think that putting 1be1 vbios on a 1ba1 card won't work because of the pci id missmatch. at boot the checking won't pass dont you think ?

 

What processor do you have in the laptop ?

 

6RE is a skylake version

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to be precise it's the i7-6700HQ, with no intel graphic coming with it (confirmed by msi support)
you can check here for the official Bios, Firmware and Vbios, and the details
https://fr.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT72VR-6RE-Dominator-Pro-Tobii.html#down-driver&Win10 64

This is driving me nuts to have no clue why it is not working...

 

I forgot to ask if the replacement gtx 1070 is the same form factor as your original one?

 

idk what do you mean by form factor but it's the same ship, same design, same version, same revision.. the only difference I spotted is the little connector for an sli bridge on the "new" one (Vortex G65vr had an sli version)

 

Some vortex 1070s refuse to work with any driver newer than 375.70 from November 2016

If you can mod that driver to install and it doesn't code 43 then it's the card you bought that's the problem :/

 

Didn't know this Benny but it's a good call.

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Dude... you are a genius. No code 43 under 375.70 drivers.
Considering I will probably get this card for free, I received it without any signature after receiving an official letter saying it had been lost, I might stick to this.
Should I expect high performances losses with theses drivers? Do you know about anything on how to update these card further after Nvidia patch 375.70?

 

Easy anti cheat don't let me connect to online games now, because of driver signature enforcement has been desactivated... I don't know how I could dodge that... maybe by renaming my card in the .nif file?

 

The vbioses that were released for the GT72VR and GT73VR's 1070's (ending in 8A, 3A, and 0D, if I recall) all work, regardless of what card or system you have, as long as it's a genuine MSI model with gsync, on any of those cards that came with either of those above vbioses. E.g. 3A and 0D are compatible with each other). You can use the GT72VR's vbios (gsync) with a GT73VR (and probably a GT75VR also). There were gsync disabled bioses for the GT83VR, and I do not know if any GT83VR's supported gsync (1080--I do not know if this had a 2x1070 model also), and I don't remember what happened when someone tried flashing a gsync enabled bios on one of these. IIRC it wasn't code 43, but it wasn't good (maybe black screen after driver install).

The vortex issue is a problem, and this was discussed some time ago, and I don't remember any of the details. Maybe this can be solved with a soldering mod of some sort but only @Khenglish would even know how to make this permanent without inf modding.

 

Thing is, these vbios are for 1be1 pci id cards, and you can't flash vbios on different pci id... so I can say goodbye to g-sync except if I do some soldering to change the hardware coding of the pci id on the card, but that's very very tricky and I would probably not risk it.

Now the question is, how on earth can gpu not support Nvidia new updates only a few months after product releade on the market... ? 375.70 is a very old update really!
it is such a shame for msi...

Maybe some more advanced driver and/or vbios modding can bypass the error 43 in some way ?

About Easy Anti Cheat detecting a problem, idk what I could do to prevent it from detecting modded drivers :/

 

I saw this thread : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p870dm-vortex-1070-upgrade-error-code.807675/page-7

But I don't understand what really worked or not at the end. some guys say they managed to install newer nvidia drivers some don't, some say they had to edit 2 files in the drivers to do so, some said only 1... and some say it requires specific vbios but I can't see which one haha
I gonna have a look at it again and try somethings, but if you tried it before feel free to explain! ty!

 

Ok the easy anti cheat is gone after a few restarts... very weird!

 

Easy anti-cheat is a funny dam program. Never complains to me about unsigned driver unless it's a GPU driver.

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And I have no clue why at first it refused to launch the game and now it's all good.... However the GPU is working flawlessly, I just dont have the G-sync anymore.
I might think about repairing my 1BE1 card, what do you think?

 

1BA1 cards are non-gsync always have been whilst 1BE1 have been G-Sync cards. what is wrong with your 1BE1 GPU anyways ?

 

my original 1be1 is dead. I had a full freeze with artefacts all over the place, reboot, and since then artefacts lines all over the place, error device malfunctionning etc...

 

Still following this - unable to get my Razer 1070 Max Q to read ANY other VBIOS in the technpowerup collection - doesn't matter if it matches or not, error 43 of death.

 

since when do you have this error ?

 

After every BIOS reflash. 1BA1 or not it won't read the drivers.

EDIT: It seems to be undoing the BIOS flash on reboot.

 

Vbios can have tricky interactions with the bios and the firmware, especially on a soldered chip like the Max-Q design! so if you have that is working stick to it... why do you need an other vbios ?

 

Higher TDP limit ... this thing never goes over 70 degrees, I dunno why they limited it to 90 watts.

 

Well it's because max-Q are made for smaller Laptop with smaller vent system, so they make sure the temperature doesn't go too high. Some components are not designed to go higher than 80°C (for example BIOS Chip). so in a small space the GPU temperature might dommage other components.
Of course when I say they are not designed for that, it means they cannot garantee they will resist to an higher temperature, but you see what I mean. If you make it goes higher, you become responsible of the dmg caused.

If you want there is this tool here : https://github.com/LaneLyng/MobilePascalTDPTweaker/releases

You gonna need an Hardware programmer however to flash the Bios chip of your card. You can buy the CH341A + 1v8 adaptater+ a clip. You'll easly find package with all of this on amazone. for the rest check the internet. And really care for this adaptater, you dont want to brun the bios chip with too high voltage!

 

Okay cool, so it's possible to mod TDP & voltage/power sliders in this little app and hardware flash it on?

 

Yes It should work! this app was made to bypass Nvidia encrypted Vbios

 

Well it worked on my GTX1060 just look at the benchmarks in signature it now hits 2GHZ on core or more at 115w tdp from 78w tdp lol.

Just bare in mind there are high risks involved and having an SPI backup of a working vbios is always a must. Use the 3 SPI dump and checksum rule before modding and flashing via SPI programmer.

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Appreciate the heads up!

Here's mine overclocked @ 90w TDP - it could definitely be much better at the full 115w its rated at. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/39169327

 

This is a proper performance gain.

 

That score was done with just overclocking/undervolting in Afterburner, it hit the 90w TDP multiple times. I think there's plenty of room for 10 more watts.

 

Now grab Afterburner and play with the clock/voltage curve so it will run cooler and/or more stable without jumping clocks.

 

Is limiting it to 0.700v max across all clocks a performance boost or loss?

 

That seems like a low voltage, the usual to see is more in the 850-975mV while hitting 1800-1900Mhz clock.

 

What should I be aiming for when I'm dailing in an undervolt?

 

@Axel-d-S I had the EXACT same problem as you. I purchased another gtx 1070 mxm for my gt83vr. It was taken from a vortex pc and was id 1ba1. Simply put those cards are pure retarded and will NOT work in other laptops except for vortex pc's. If you get it working it will be on an extremely old driver and on a very specific vbios. I remember getting error 43 and couldn't find a solution. Not even the gpu master @Khenglish could help on that one! It's just one of those things I guess...

I sent that gpu straight back lol, now I know any gpu taken out of a vortex can not be trusted to work in another pc

 

I thought for sure a Razer 1070 1BA1 would be more compatible with other Ultrabook BIOS. :/

 

Bro I would not mess with bga vbioses unless its clevo or dell. I tried modding my hp omen 17 i9 rtx 2080 vbios from 150w to 190w dell aw 51m and the laptop died. Black screen fan spin at 100%. HP implemented some nasty **** into their vbios, some typical hp encoding which PISSES me off

I flashed back the vbios and the laptop didn't change. Hell I flashed the bios and me firmware too. Everything was backed up twice and the crap still didn't work.

So, if I were you bro I'd just leave it

 

Yikes ... thanks for the heads up. I'll know not to buy such a locked down machine next time. Do you think a Dell G7 would better for BIOS and VBIOS modding?