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    ~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Affirmative Inaction, Oct 10, 2010.

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    I don't think so, the newer heatsinks do fit though.
     
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    Thanks. Newer meaning GT680 or GT60?
     
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    Thanks.

    I have my eyes on a K4000M, though. :)
     
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    you have in other laptop that k4m ? or have only MSI ?
     
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    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, I have it in another laptop, and I plan to take it out and put it in the MSI.
     
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    Witaj Majster MSI :),

    Could You send me your GX660r modded bios? I couldn't find it on google so I have registered here to send You a PM (but I can't). I would be very grateful. I want to put Samsung 840 EVO SSD in to my MSI and without your bios I thing it's imposibble. My email is experty84[MAŁPA]gmail.com
    Cheers! :)

    I have downloaded V3_BIOS_GX660R-UltraGSM.zip - maybe this one is enough?

     
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    V3_BIOS_GX660R-UltraGSM.zip
    yes no need more all ultragsm bios have unlocked sata option
     
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    Thanks :) tomorrow I'll flash it.
    Cheers!
     
  10. Nevril

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    Hello everyone!

    I have a GT663 (with GTX 460M).

    Some question:
    - I read GTX 770M from Clevo should work P&P with modded drivers. Can you absolutely confirm?
    - What about the Heatsink? Can the 460M one be adapted?
    - At a merely speculative level what do you think about Maxwell instead? Is there anybody who is waiting for some card and willing to test it?

    Just to be sure my MSI is the GT663 not the 660

    Thank you :)

    P.S.: No, I don't want the 7970M (don't have enough money, even the 770M is still a bit expensive for my pocket)
     
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    Here is an old list of stock BIOS supported SSDs I tried to collect some time ago: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=143883.0
     
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    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone tried putting a FirePro M6000 (GCN) on the GX660? (I may end up with one, originally acquired for a different purpose/project, and I was wondering if it will work...)
     
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    Hello !

    I am an owner of the Msi GX660R too, during the last years I made a lot of updates, well the laptop is still the same but I removed raid 0 (tryed to install ubuntu in dual boot but made a huge mistake :p) and updated my OS to windows 8, then windows 8.1 64bit.

    Is anyone running this OS? I have only one problem: I can't change brightness, I mean the button is working and the system is receiving Fn + up (I can increase and reduce brightness on the brightness bar) but the brightness on my screen stays the same, I think this happened because I updated to windows 8, it was working on windows 7.

    Pweeese halp !

    Thank you guys! (sorry for bad english)
     
  14. tuoghu

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    This is a problem of the driver ati ,try to Change brightness than disconect power cable and riconect.see if something Change ;)

    Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
     
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    Recently bought a used GX660 for 50 USD which only needed a new powerjack soldered, and is working great now! I however have a problem with the touchpad, which only seems to work momentarily, it will work until reboot or sleep, and I will have to keep putting the machine to sleep and wake it up again until the touchpad responds again, anyone tried the same and got a fix?
     
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    dunno if there's a keyboard shortcut to deactivate it with a function key. i always stuck to using a mouse on mine.
     
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    There is, however I have already tried disabling and enabling the touchpad, however that doesn't work. As said, the touchpad works sometimes, and other times it does not work.
     
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    maybe there's a newer driver. dunno.
     
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    Try re installing the hotkey driver.
     
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    Hey. I have the same problem.

    Also I can't change mode to eco or film. Buttons is working and system is receiving it but nothing happend
     
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    Have you tried a version from a newer machine?
     
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    Yes form GX 660R but still the same problem
     
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    Just wanted to report that I was able to install and successfully operate a 1,5GB MSI 670MX on my GT663R - despite claims that, of all the Keplers, it can only be done with the 770M.

    So it's working alright and overclocking well too: 3DMark 11 - GTX 670MX on MEDION X681X (@ 915/4400)

    I am doing some more extensive testing now, but it holds its own even in Furmark.

    As to why it works: I can only guess it's a question of bios. The card has an engineering sample bios on it (reportedly modded by svl7), so I assume that's the reason. [I can dump the bios if needed.]



    Forgot to mention: what's better still is that the mod does not even require another heatsink - I am using the good old 460M heatsink with a minor job, as in the picture below (original borrowed for photoshoping purposed from UltraGSM).

    Simply remove the little blue bump, cut 1mm of the long side of the purple protrusions (to bring them in line with the smaller protuberances nearby), as for the green thing - I did not have it on my heatsink (UltraGSM's was a 560M) but it may well fit the fets on the video card. Otherwise remove, I guess.

    The memory is not an ideal fit (the heatsink has three protrusions on each side instead of four), but I guess it's enough (the memory on the back of the card is not cooled anyway). Of course, one could level that area of the heatsink (dremel out the memory bumps) and then use taller thermal pads.

    images.jpg
     
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    Hi. I've owned a GX660 for a while now and decided to upgrade it. I've installed an i7-640m and it's running without problems. I'm having problems with the third RAM slot though. I already have 2x4GB at the bottom slots and I bought a nearly identical 4GB stick. The problem is that whenever I put anything on the third RAM slot, the laptop won't boot and I'm just getting a black screen. I've tried keeping the 2 slots at the bottom empty with the only the new stick at the top, and same thing. I also tried using one of the old sticks on top and no go, whether or not i put anything on the bottom slots. I've tried using the new stick along with one of the old ones on the bottom slots and the laptop boots. I *think* the top slot is broken, but I'm hoping it isn't. Any ideas on what I can try?
     
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    Best to keep all memory modules identical, or at least with the same specification.
     
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    Thanks for the response. I wish that was the problem as it's easy to fix, but the specifications are nearly identical. The tRAS for the old sticks is 25 while the new one is 24 so I doubt that's the problem. Also, as I mentioned, I used the new stick along with one of the old sticks. That worked fine. What doesn't work, is taking the new stick out of the equation and just using 1 old stick on the top slot, or using 1 old stick on the top slot along with the other old stick on any of the bottom slots.
     
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    Primarily just the 3 timing values and voltage value should be as close as possible.
    Other things affect little to none, but nevertheless it is still a potential to cause instability.
    You can try one first but if there's any stability issue then just buy another one to replace the stock one.
     
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    I seem to recall slightly.... are you using a GX660R or non R? For some reason I seem to recall the non R version being unable to use all 3 slots without perhaps flashing BIOS or was it a physical limitation? I think it had something to do with being the dual core version.
     
  31. landsome

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    You seem to have a problem with the 3rd slot. This being said, afaik the dual-core mobile CPUs (incl. i7s) can only access a max. of 2 slots. In a sense, this makes the 3rd slot irrelevant anyway.
     
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    i'm looking for a long time info's but i don't find. can i upgrade to kepler gpu? i mind to gtx670mx/gtx675mx or gtx680m? or still nothing? ati hd7970m/8970m from clevo fit, yes?
     
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    http://store.steampowered.com/app/267130/
    Real Mantle test on my GX660, i7 840QM, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz, 7970M 900/1500 (edited vbios) 2GB DDR5, Turbo mode OFF, out-of-the-box demo settings:

    D3D:
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    Oxide Games
    Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
    C:\Users\Hexaae\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_06_07_1252.txt
    Version 1.10
    06/07/2014 12:52
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    == Hardware Configuration =================================
    GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970M
    CPU: GenuineIntel
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 840 @ 1.87GHz
    Physical Cores: 4
    Logical Cores: 8
    Physical Memory: 8569917440
    Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
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    == Configuration ==========================================
    API: DirectX
    Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
    User Input: Disabled
    Resolution: 1920x1080
    Fullscreen: True
    GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
    Bloom Quality: High
    PointLight Quality: High
    ToneCurve Quality: High
    Glare Overdraw: 16
    Shading Samples: 64
    Shade Quality: Mid
    Deferred Contexts: Disabled
    Temporal AA Duration: 16
    Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
    Detailed Frame Info: Off
    ===========================================================


    == Results ================================================
    Test Duration: 360 Seconds
    Total Frames: 6057

    Average FPS: 16.82
    Average Unit Count: 3565
    Maximum Unit Count: 5464
    Average Batches/MS: 318.42
    Maximum Batches/MS: 697.64
    Average Batch Count: 22938
    Maximum Batch Count: 136412
    ===========================================================


    MANTLE:
    ===========================================================
    Oxide Games
    Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
    C:\Users\Hexaae\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_06_07_1259.txt
    Version 1.10
    06/07/2014 12:59
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    == Hardware Configuration =================================
    GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970M
    CPU: GenuineIntel
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 840 @ 1.87GHz
    Physical Cores: 4
    Logical Cores: 8
    Physical Memory: 8569917440
    Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
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    == Configuration ==========================================
    API: Mantle
    Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
    User Input: Disabled
    Resolution: 1920x1080
    Fullscreen: True
    GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
    Bloom Quality: High
    PointLight Quality: High
    ToneCurve Quality: High
    Glare Overdraw: 16
    Shading Samples: 64
    Shade Quality: Mid
    Deferred Contexts: Disabled
    Temporal AA Duration: 16
    Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
    Detailed Frame Info: Off
    ===========================================================


    == Results ================================================
    Test Duration: 360 Seconds
    Total Frames: 11608

    Average FPS: 32.24
    Average Unit Count: 4333
    Maximum Unit Count: 5569
    Average Batches/MS: 639.30
    Maximum Batches/MS: 2901.54
    Average Batch Count: 22117
    Maximum Batch Count: 135045
    ===========================================================


    One thing... In Mantle mode, even at 55fps wasn't smooth as D3D at 55fps. Strange but true.
    In Mantle mode, even with 5200+ ships on screen slowed down to max 12-15fps, D3D was in slideshow-mode instead and 3fps.
     
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    nice info - im wonder if orignal clevo cards run the same easy way ?

    what's temperature in games with or without OC gpu ?
     
  36. J_D_L

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    So my GX660R died a few months ago. In the middle of a game, the graphics corrupted for a second, the screen then went totally black and after switching off and back on, it wouldn't show anything on screen. I was pretty sure the fault was with my HD5870 - I tried it later, and although the screen was black, the laptop was booting into Windows and I could even get into the remote desktop.

    Now a few months later, I saved up some money to buy a replacement (second-hand) 5870. I installed it last night, but now with the new card the laptop definitely isn't booting at all, and the screen is still staying black. It doesn't seem to be doing any kind of POST at all - the laptop will turn off just with a short press on the power button - no "long press" like it needs whenever it gets past the BIOS POST at least. If I put the old card back in or put no card in at all, the system will boot, albeit without video.

    The new 5870 is second-hand, but I'm assured by the seller that it was working. It's not 100% the same as the old one that I removed though.

    Is there a possibility of getting the new card to work? Could I flash the vBIOS?

    EDIT: I checked the model number and apparently I have a Clevo card, so presumably it's a vBIOS issue. I can't flash the vBIOS on the new card without getting past POST. Could I get the vBIOS chip from my old 5870 soldered onto in place of the new one? Is there anywhere that does that?
     
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    Plain gaming - some 75C without, below 85C with OC-ing. Standard voltage, though (.950v).
     
  38. debianik

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    for flashing in home buy:
    24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer CH341A with Software Driver | eBay
    and
    New SOIC8 SOP8 Flash Chip IC Test Clips Socket Adpter BIOS 24 25 93 Programmer | eBay
    or solder cable to gpu or desolder bios chip
     
  39. J_D_L

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    Ordered both :thumbsup:

    Thank you sir - you are a hero. I'll let you know how I get on.

    If I could just ask for a bit of advice though - once I have the drivers for the USB adapter installed:

    1. Can I just use the usual software to flash the vBIOS chip (e.g. ATI Winflash/Radeon BIOS editor) as if I had the actual card plugged in, or will I need to do something extra to get the software to find the vBIOS chip in the adapter?

    2. Would you recommend booting through DOS to flash this way, or should doing it through tools booted in Windows still work? ( Advice elsewhere suggests doing both!)

    3. Obviously I want to flash a different vBIOS version than was intended for the Clevo card. Do I have a better chance of compatibility by flashing an MSI vBIOS like my old card, or another one like a Dell vBIOS?
     
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    1) only specific tool added with programmer - CH341A with Software Driver CH341A programmer
    2) you do this on any other working pc / laptop that can run windows software
    3) in my case dell card 5870 no working correctly - bad colours, flashed to msi - gt660 not posting, then you must try both but be ready to send back the card (that's whay you buy second thing to easy flash bios without touching anything that leave marks on card )

    of course you can also flash msi mb bios with that tool
     
  41. J_D_L

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    Awesome - thanks again.

    I think I've identified the vBIOS chips - my old MSI card has an "MX25L1005" and the new Clevo one has a "PM25LV010A".

    All the info on the CH341A programmer seems to be in Chinese. Thankfully the version I ordered off eBay doesn't seem to be as complex as the one in the images on your link, so I shouldn't have to mess around trying to figure out DIP switches.
     
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    should be exactly the same software - of course english and other languages for sure is available
     
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    Well if it does not work out and you need the card flashed instead let me know as my 5935G motherboard setup can program any card regardless of brand of bios.

    However the card may be dead, that is my only concern. We are dealing with old tech. A GTX 770M may have been a better, more reliable option.
     
  44. J_D_L

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    Thanks for the offer - I'll let you know.

    I was wary of buying older second-hand stuff, but I felt I had a better chance of comparability replacing like-for-like than trying to be adventurous and doing an upgrade as well. Also I can't afford much more!
     
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    Does anyone know where i can download xonars unlocked bios?
     
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    Hello guys, do any of you suggest changing touchpad to Synaptics (as mine is Sentelic with terribly poor usage)?

    Also do you guys have a fresh link to "majster msi" s modded BIOS for SSD compatibility? Or any alternative for his that solves SSD compatibility?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    @G-Row
    tecginferno

    ggnoplay
    also tech inferno
     
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    thx for rosponse!
     
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    anyone knows where to get an lite-on180w psu in europe?
    my cheap 180w noname psu, bought at ebay, broke today. now i dont want to buy a cheap psu once more...
     
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    Have you checked eBay again? Perhaps it was just a bad luck with the adapter.
     
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