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    ~GX660(R) Owner's Lounge~

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Affirmative Inaction, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. Rcl483

    Rcl483 Notebook Guru

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    Please need a quick answer cuz I have to tell it to the seller.


    Thanks in advanced!
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would go with the single WD drive. You can either add a booting SSD drive, or pair up another WD drive for hardly anything.
     
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    Thanks!, yes Ill go for the single hdd :)
     
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    cirian75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just powered up my GX660R

    bios setup says my 500gb hdd are raid 0

    But in windows I have 2 HDD, one at 525, 2nd at 376

    I thought I would see one 900gb plus HDD with raid 0?

    halp
     
  5. Kushan

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    Your RAIDed hard drives can still be partitioned like a regular hard drive. In fact, there's at least 1 other hidden partition housing all the recovery stuff.
     
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    cheers, now reads 920gb in size
     
  7. cirian75

    cirian75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is there matte screen protector aval ?
     
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    Rahul Notebook Prophet

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    What do you guys think of this GX660 model being offered?

    MSI GX660R i7 Gaming laptop RADEON HD5870 1 GIG DDR5 | eBay

    The specs look good for the price, even if it is last generation. I think the savings look worth it over getting the newer Sandy Bridge GX680 series. I was wondering if I should go with this, if its still a decent rig for the price.
     
  9. Tim4

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    For this price I would go for 16f2 barebone.I owned GX660 and then ordered PowerPro 11:36.At the end I am very pleased with it. You will get second gen i7 for the same price.560M is on par with 5870 and will be better with new driver release plus it's very good overclocker.
     
  10. Klayzen

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    My GX660 started slowing down last night. Chrome, Firefox, IE9 all wouldn't load pages at all. It said "Waiting for Cache..." in Chrome. It got to the place where it froze everything up, so I just restarted my PC thinking it was a normal slowdown.

    Now, I cannot get past the MSI boot screen. I can not enter BIOS by pressing Delete. No other buttons work. The hard drive light is not flashing. The only light that's on is the little sleep light on my trackpad.

    I removed all USB devices, ethernet cable, power supply, etc and nothing seems to work.

    I'd rather not have to go through the warranty process as it's the last option. Is there anything else I can do? I can't open it up because of the warranty sticker. I have a feeling it might be faulty RAM. Ideas? *hopes to find his receipt...*
     
  11. cirian75

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    normal idle temps for the 740QM model after 10 minutes laptop cooler pad off?

    Room is 22c

    [​IMG]
     

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  12. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    I´d say yes, mainly if your lappy is new. Mine used to idle at around 40ºC as well in the beggining, now it´s 4ºC lower aprox.
    5870 is a bit high, though, IMO. Mine idles at 37ºC/38ºC, and maxes at 58ºC after a lot of gaming (turbo fan on when gaming, off when idling, surfing, etc). In the beggining it was considerably hotter, around 5ºC higher idle and around 68ºC on full load. Anyway, still nothing to worry about, if you consider ATI specs says 50ºC/55ºC - 80º/85ºC (accordingly to Asus manufacturer, to calm down G73 JH owners worried about GPU temps; we suppose they didn´t lie, of course).
    Thermal paste has a period of cure, give it a time and you will see.
    Have a good one, pal.
     
  13. cirian75

    cirian75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ah the old bedin

    we fried my E8500 for 24hrs for that before we O/C'd it.

    the GX660R is my sole pc now, got fed up of have 3 and one never having what the other one had when I needed it.
     
  14. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    It's fine. Mine is about 55°C idle, and 88°C when gaming after hours (I am overclocked at 880/1093 though... on my bed! I should get a cooler, I only put a book under it haha).

    Quite a mighty card, this HD5870m is. I am still amazed at how it defends itself at any game.
     
  15. Velho

    Velho Notebook Geek

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    Ryzeki, always good to see you around. Another opportunity to thank you once again for giving me that push, you know?
    Yes, this 5870 is a fine damn good GPU! After the break in period it started to work even better, amazingly cool, and handling all the games with ease.
    The whole stuff is outstanding; the model proved to be solid and reliable, after 1 year from its release. I´ve never had a shadow of an issue, no BSOD, no crashes, nothing. It´s cooler than before (I doubt a laptop with the same specs can run as cool as it; at least my unit is super cool).
    Easy to remove bottom to dust the fan. To be on the safe side, I bought a spare fan, as I intend to keep the lappy for a lot longer than I tought.
    Take care, my friend.
    Have a good one, you all.
     
  16. cirian75

    cirian75 Notebook Enthusiast

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    where can I bag a spare fan?
     
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    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    Black screen msi ms 1656 gx640 - YouTube

    Please! My laptop black screen!

    can anyone help me!

    I need to know where to buy a new VGA? if the problem is the same vga ..


    It sold for $100 GTX260m operates in gx640??
     
  19. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Yes, the dell gtx 260m will operate in the gx640.

    I got one for 65$ recently. Search for "8700m" ;)

    Before you pay 70$, it may be a good idea to check the model number of the fan, which is NOT an MSI model number but an Adda, Delta, or Forcecon model #. It was probably used on other laptops and is available for less $$.
     
  20. elisons

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    I did not think I looked on ebay and has ... Send to Brazil?
     
  21. ElleSon

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    Hi

    Just wanted to share idle/load temps from my newly upgraded laptop.. geuss that temps are ok for this machine.

    However i got a small problem. If i try to install any catalyst higher than 11.4 i get a message saying no compatible video card found, somthing like that!

    Is there a solution for this?
     

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  22. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Where did you buy your HD6970m and how much was it?

    Are you installing drivers the old way of removing, driver sweeper, installing from scratch? If so, don't do that, go straight for the 11.8 or newer Cat drivers, install and let it do its magic. Unless the HD6970m is somehow not very supported and you would probably need modified inf.
     
  23. ElleSon

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    MXM UPGRADE and it kinda expencive around 550 usd, still cheaper than buying a new 5870m here in dk (625usd)
    Tryed going straight for the 11.8/.7/.6/.5, tryed from scratch. same result.
    Seems the only driver willing to work is the 11.4 from techpowerup.
    For now its not a problem coz it still kicks a..
    Will try the modified inf.
     
  24. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Good luck with that. I wanna upgrade y GPU but its too expensive... so I will probably wait a while before doing so. I'm ordering a pair of SSDs soon tho.
     
  25. ElleSon

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    SSD´s in RAID setup is most likely a better investment over the 6970.
    I think i was on this site i saw a guy selling hd6970m and hd6990m for clevo´s
    and the price was very fair. heatsink, 180w psu and ati hd6970m for around 500-550usd
    im not 100% on the price.. look at the markedplace

    Well found a solution to my cat. problem, it seems all Preview versions do the job, why?

    Anybody got a idea why this is?
     
  26. prastis

    prastis Notebook Consultant

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    guys how do you find the 5870? is it strong enough to support new games such as bf3 and guildwars 2? and you could tell me any good places in the uk where i could find cheap deals for a gx660 in the uk? new or refurbished i dont mind if its below 900 pounds i would really appreciate it ;p
     
  27. pras1011

    pras1011 Notebook Consultant

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    I have a 6970m and its much better than the 5870. Heat is a major problem which can be sorted out. Do a search on here for my topic "5870 in a gx660".
     
  28. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well I was able to play the BF3 aplha fine even at 1920x1080 with a small OC, so I guess medium settings on retail should do the job, provided it looks like BC2 which runs great on Hd5870m
     
  29. scaw

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    Has there been found a solution to the LED not working when entering Windows?

    I can turn them on during booting, but in Windows I can only shut the LED's off.

    I can't seem to find an answer here or on MSI's forum..
     
  30. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    What do you mean? the external LEDs around the laptop? there is a software utulity that allows you to change that.

    I don't remember much tho because I uninstalled it.
     
  31. whaxxx

    whaxxx Newbie

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    I just finished reading all 119 pages..

    I just had my GX660 i5-520m, 8GB DDR3, Radeon HD5870, 1366x768, 500gb for a week now..

    @ryzeki - I'm also looking at getting an SSD to be my primary.. any recommendations on a low priced but good performing one?
     
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    I am also researching this myself. So far I am almost 100% set on the Crucial M4 128GB SSDs, will be putting two of them in raid 0.
     
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    Well I have had best luck with the M4s.
     
  34. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yup, saw you amazing numbers there. My eyes popped out and I almost hit "buy" button before I realized I had no money yet xD
     
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    Thanks ryzeki.

    I have checked some reviews of the M4's, and it really does have a good performance at a fair price. Can't wait to get one.

    ...but wait, I just noticed that the M4 is SATA 3. Would that be a problem to us non-sandy bridge users? Meaker's barebone has the newer sandy bridge processor, that means his chipset is different than those 1st gen i-series GX660 that we have.

    Would we have to stick to SATA 2 instead? If so, I think the OCZ Vertex 2 might be the next option... hhmm..
     
  36. Jackiz

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    Hello GX660 users im just new here and i just got my machine w/ a specs of i5-520m, 8GB DDR3, Radeon HD5870, 1366x768, 500gb a few days ago. i hope to find help things in this forums ^^ . . . please to meet you all . .
     
  37. Velho

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    Congratulations, and welcome aboard. You'll be amazed how these laptops run the games flawlessly without overheating. Solid products. Your rig with the fabulous 5870 is able to run anything maxed out, because its resolution is more "friendly" than GX660R's. Enjoy!
    Greetz.
     
  38. Jackiz

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    @Velho thanks for a warm welcome . . may i ask how OVERDRIVE in the catalyst works??? do i need to do it when i want to run my game smoothly?
     
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    Hello i'm new in this Forum, also i'm owner GX660R for half a year now. want to ask about Vbios, recently i'm updating Vbios from MSI website, and now my lowest clock is 400, and i think i want to back to original Vbios, how do i find it ?

    and is new Vbios is Good or the original is better ?

    Thanks
     
  40. Velho

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    I never OC my PCs, so I´m not the best person to give you a guide on this matter. Anyway I think CCC Overdrive has a sort of "auto and safe OC", if I´m not wrong. But If I were you I wouldn´t think about OC, your lappy will be able to run even MW3 and BF3 maxed out smoothly. Screen res is 1366x768. Mine is FHD and I play BC2 almost maxed out (I just force DX9, wich disables antialiasing, and put everything else at max, including HBAO, and have no shadow of lag or input lag).
    The best adviser around here is Ryzeki. PM him to ask about the OC thing, he is a very friendly dude!!
     
  41. Velho

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    Same advice I gave Jackiz: PM Rizeky, he is a GX660 library!! :p
    Once you restore your BIOS, you don´t need to look for anything new (IMHO), as original versions of BIOS and vBIOS are pretty decent. My unit is totally stock (I just upgraded to Windows 7 Ultimate 64), and it´s been virtually issue free, slicing every game I throw at it.
    Good luck!
     
  42. ryzeki

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    As far as I have checked, SATA 3 is backwards compatible with SATA 2 but obviously our speeds won't be as fast, as we are limited to 3Gb/s with Sata 2. I am not so confident about the Vertex SSds right now. If I remember correctly Forge, an user of GX660R , had issues like a lot of people mention in newegg with drives sometimes not being recognized or picked up by the laptop. So far the Crucials seem solid and those are my current best bet. There is a forum dedicated for SSDs etc so you can learn more there, as well as ask for general compatibility questions.


    Welcome! Overdrive works like most OC tools, which allow manual overclocking of your GPU provided you accept the disclaimers. I personally don't use it because I find MSI Afterburner easier and even more informative than Overdrive. You don't need to enable it, and generally it is not advise to overclock your GPU unless you really have problems running a game and you want to squeeze a bit more performance. But don't expect mirables.

    The best you can do is to try and stick to overclocking your core clock and not your memory. memory overclocking is a bit unstable for most GX660's HD5870m so far, with some reaching around 1100 tops, but rarely being 100% stable.

    Clocks seem far easier to overclock and temperatures are usually cool enough for a decent increase. Try uncreasing from 10mhz at a time, checking temps and measuring with something like furmark which quickly pushes a GPU to the max.

    MSI afterburner allows you to check your clocks, and temperatures in real time. Using GPU-z, another free GPU identifier utility, allows you to see up to three GPU temps based on core, memory and another area I forgot. The important thing is to keep the max temps in control.

    Generally GPUs can reach over 100°c before they auto downclock or shutdown for protection, but with this machine and turbo fan I always try to keep temps in the 80°cs realm, when overclocked. Of course ambient temps play a bit role so if you live in a hot area, your regular temps might already be in the 80s.

    Anyways, you dont need to enable overdrive for overclocking, and you dont even need to use it at all. In general I don't think you should mess with overclocking unless you really wanna sit down for a bit and learn more about it.

    I don't think it is really needed for most games, unless you wanna fight benchmarks haha. :)

    The vBios released are supposed to be more stable. They modified the clockspeeds due to some GPUs crashing. They are basically the same in performance and both still relatively cool. At worst, it might consume a tiny bit more battery, unless that really bothers you, I say you should keep the new bvios you installed. To get the originals you would need someone with stock GPU vbios use something like GPU Z to save a bios file version of theirs, and then downgrade it.

    Same advice I gave Jackiz: PM Rizeky, he is a GX660 library!! :p
    Once you restore your BIOS, you don´t need to look for anything new (IMHO), as original versions of BIOS and vBIOS are pretty decent. My unit is totally stock (I just upgraded to Windows 7 Ultimate 64), and it´s been virtually issue free, slicing every game I throw at it.
    Good luck![/QUOTE]

    Haha thanks! :D Tho there are other great posters in these forums, so I will try to lead everyone with the person that can help if I am unable to.

    You are correct in that overdrive has some sort of auto and safe OC but in experience, they are quite slow.

    Anyways as you mentioned, its probably better to not even OC as most cases is not even needed. This GPU is awesome :)
     
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    Hi, i just bought a GX660 Core-i5 480m, 8GB RAM, 5870m about a month ago. Has anyone had issues of flash videos freezing the system up after hibernate or sleep or after playing a lengthy session of games?

    I currently have the (2010-07-26) MSI provided driver in their GX660 driver download website and latest flash player version.

    I found a temporary workaround by disabling hardware acceleration in flash player settings. So far it has worked for me beautifully. But i do get lag when viewing 1080p videos or when playing flash based games like the ones encountered in facebook coz the lack of GPU acceleration, it does bug me a bit.

    And as far as my experience with my GX660 i cannot install all default AMD provided drivers (catalyst 11.8). I get the "catalyst has found no compatible devices" whenever i try a fresh install of drivers and try to install the latest AMD provided 5870m driver. So im stuck with the "latest" MSI provided 5870m driver. However i can update the catalyst control center, SDK, and C++ that are included in every Catalyst packages available from AMD.

    I tried overwriting drivers but the 11.8 package sees the MSI provided driver which was relased back in 2010 as "up to date". As seen with my attached pic. [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]

    Or maybe the vbios is the culprit? I dont know. But it definitely has something to do with the 5870m drivers or something related to the 5870m...

    The problem i am having is just a minor gripe for me, i mean, the GX660 itself is stable no BSODs no random freezes and i can play games for 5+ hours at a time with no problems and the machine just stays chill while on full load. But it would still be better if i sort the flash video thing out.

    I can run crysis 2 in extreme settings with high res textures and dx11 just fine and same with other graphic intensive games, like BFBC2, bulletstorm and metro 2033. Like i finished crysis 2 in one sitting and metro 2033 in another day so imagine how long that took. So i can safely rule out any problems with the 5870m itself.
     
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    Hi, guys.

    Well, my dad always told me when I was a kid: never make a compliment more than once!
    So my 5870 started to underclock all of a sudden. I noticed a huge FPS variation in my games, from 80 to 20 for some seconds, then back to 80, again to 20, etc. I went to CCC and voila! The clocks drop from 700/1000 to 100/150 in the middle of the game, then return to default, etc. I have the latest CCC. Is there any way to fix it? Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
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    Enforce clocks to stock maximum via disabling ATI powerplay or via AMDgpuClockTool or MSI afterburner. That will peg the clocks to whatever you set it no matter what.

    I did experience that, had my clocks stuck at 400mhz 2d speed, launched a game and clocks didnt go into 3d mode. So i launched AMDgpuClockTool and enforced the clocks there. I tell you drivers are kinda buggy. I never had any problems with my desktop cards which are nvidia.
     
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    clocks not changing are indeed buggy drivers.

    As for updating drivers, don't do a fresh install, download the full drivers from the AMD notebook drivers and then install right away. Let the utility auto install it.

    If that doesn't work, you can always install the catalyst software, and manually installing the video card drivers via Device Manager, and selecting the drivers yourself to force the new one.

    To be honest I have never had issues with hibernating, playing a lot, etc and never had clocks going down. Then again my vbios are updated and my clocks are overclocked...
     
  49. Velho

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    Thank you very much, it solved the issue instantly. I used AMD GPU Clock Tool, as you did. I think I've never had such a fast answer to any question I've posted in any forum!! Again, thank you very, very much.
    Have a good one.

    *Edit
    @ Ryzeki
    You posted while I was thanking flowingbass, so I'm editing to thank you as well. I've installed the CCC the way you suggest before posting the issue. I made this way because I read a previous post of yours recommending this procedure ;)
    This forum rules.
     
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