***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

You guys can probably for get that upgrade business as it was an unforeseen situation. Meaning that while mid stream MSI was force to change a few key components in their systems to meet system specs. And that could only be done through a gpu change and parts of the motherboard changed along with it....Speculation until or If MSI decides to respond.... And be prepared for that to change even further if other things come to pass...

It seems to be alright as bga Laptops go. Had it up to 4.5 4.6 ghz, but that is still a work in progress. Did some test benches at 4.3 ghz though.

 

u always get golden chip sir, never cease to amaze me johnksssssssssssssss

 

GPU die is the same size, come on man, look at the photo's already posted.

The 'm' variants were sized the same, they came with less internal components enabled, reducing their power requirement.

Maxwell was 28nm and the Pascal resized 16nm draw less power at the same clock, but since they run faster they are drawing just a tad more power.

The MXM cards for Pascal could have been physically and electronically compatible with the previous generation laptops if designed to be compatible, but they were purposefully tweaked to not be plug in compatible with the previous generation, at least we know this for sure about Clevo, MSI is still an unknown.

MSI and Clevo have let us down.

 

That's not golden, that was just some light tweaking.

 

aye overclock master, do u plan to teach us or take ur skills to the grave

 

msi have let down since they choose to use BGA CPU, clevo let me down since they direct two 1080 GPU heat towards CPU. cpu for life bro, its great to have good powered graphics card and thats secondary.

 

For you and other benchmarkers, or other primarily CPU needing users, but for the rest of us it's all about the GPU.

The CPU needs to be straight-line powerful enough, with just enough cores to feed the GPU(s), any more than what's needed is dead weight and a drain on power and cooling.

MSI, Asus get what's needed for gamers, and usually deliver nicely.

Clevo is catering to the CPU benchmarking crowd. For us gamers it's overkill.

It's all fun until our dreams of upgrading are dashed...

Come on MSI, commit and follow through already

Update: MSI has come through with a trade-in program for GT72/GT80 owners:

Official MSI News, Events, and all things MSI.....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ents-and-all-things-msi.795144/#post-10326272

 

i would never be able to understand gaming at 60fps or 120fps they look the same LOL. these GPU are so poewrful that u can get easily get over 60fps on 1080p, these GPU would only be useful when comes to external display.

btw now that msi is dead to you, what do you plan on getting? imho, HONEST OPINION, its best to just choose whats best from each company, get it, and hope nothing goes wrong after. i'd still be impressed by MSI if they decided to up that cpu heatsink in gt83 but i have yet to see the inside, its good to be really excited about everything rather than just hating a brand name. good hardware/design will always be good regardless which company makes them, same with bad hardware/design. etc

 

It's less a question of whether or not the hardware is good and more about whether or not the company will make things right if something does end up bad.

 

MSI is out of the running unless they come through with the GPU Upgrades as promised.

Clevo is out because there is no need to buy an upgradeable laptop if upgrades are thwarted by Clevo at each new release.

Asus is expensive in the top models I am interested in right now, but the mid range are appealing to get something to tide me over till Series 200 chipset + Kabylake.

There are still a lot of Pascal notebooks as yet unannounced and unreleased, so still watching.

A desktop might be a good idea for now.

 

Here is the latest word from MSI:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...for-the-msi-rep-2.795226/page-3#post-10326270

 

very generous just like the dell warranty program

 

Just a thought..... this is *** The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)*** thread. Is it possible to please keep the discussion on point? If you want to discuss the GT72/GT80 MXM upgrades, a thread is available for this. Why not discuss this there? If you want to discuss opinions of the manufacturer and the pending GT72/GT80 trade-in offer, why not create a thread? If you want to discuss other manufacturers, thread are available, why not discuss it there? If you want to discuss CPU's and OC'ing, threads are available, why not discuss it there? Please consider the purpose of this thread. Thanks.....

 

Considering the trade-in from GT80* will be to the GT83VR, everyone involved will end up here eventually

But, the trade-in discussion can better be served in these threads:

GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0-gt80s-owners-gpu-upgrade-discussion.795236/

Questions to MSI:

[Official] Questions for the MSI Rep! #2
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-questions-for-the-msi-rep-2.795226/

Announcement from MSI:

Official MSI News, Events, and all things MSI.....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-msi-news-events-and-all-things-msi.795144/

@-=$tR|k3r=- :

 

LOL! Yeah, but when you come back, the GT72/GT80 situation is history, we'll have GT83VR in hand, and perhaps with a more favorable 'on-topic' experience.

 

Looks like GT80S is excluded since it's not using the same mobile GPU as GT72/GT80.

 

Kevin, @-=$tR|k3r=- asked us to move this discussion to the threads directly involved:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...pgrade-discussion.795236/page-8#post-10326453

 

still need to see the internal, anytime now gentech pc!! thanks in advance ken

 

Mh... it seems that thousands of non-US customers ... will remain screwed. Including me, then. It was exactly what I was afraid and I had spoken.

 

5.5kg and 5000$ seems it is other world's laptop... not my reach. And.... one gtx 1080 isn't enough? need to be SLI?

 

Hi

I am stuck between the gt73 with twin sli 1070 4k or the gt83 twin 1070 sli and 18" 1080p

what are your thoughts on the 4k screen?

would you choose the gt73 mainly due to size over the gt83?

i keep switching my pre order thats due for shipment on the 31st i just want to make sure i am buying the right version.

i would value your opinion

 

Will there ever be a 4k screen version of the GT83? Or is this laptop more of a portable computer to connect external monitors/VR headset on? I would get this if it would have a 4k screen to make use of the dual gpu, but it will be a waste getting a sli laptop and game on 1080p. Might look at single gpu 17.3" ones. I really liked this one though, being 18.4" with a mechanical keyboard.

 

Yeah, this thread is for the flagship SKU's, but sure, single 1080 or SLI 1070 GT73 or GT83 models are sure to deliver an awesome gaming experience. It's all a matter of your price range and preferences.

I have done a few updates to the first post of the thread ( HERE), and MSI now has the official specs available for the -069 and -024 flagships. I will continue to update the lead post, as more information becomes available. Hopefully we will see deliveries SOON!

 

Not till the first week of September is what I'm told....

 

I'm in europe! 5000 euros are not good like 5000usd??? ****!

 

ibuypower states 6820HK for 1080 sli config

anyone see a 1080 sli config without the 6920hq?

 

Yes, the -069 SKU mentioned in my post above, and specs found HERE.

 

So no 18.4" 4K display? How did Asus get them for its GX800?

 

Unfortunately, they didn't make that an option.

 

Only 460w of power meh

 

That's an old PDF, the new product pages show 2 x 330w for the GT83VR 1080 SLI and 2 x 230w for the 1070 SLI GT83VR/GT73VR

GT83VR 6RF TITAN SLI
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-6RF-Titan-SLI.html#hero-specification
AC Adapter - 330W adapter x 2

GT83VR 6RE TITAN SLI
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-6RE-Titan-SLI.html#hero-specification
AC Adapter - 230W adapter x 2

GT73VR 6RE TITAN SLI
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT73VR-6RE-Titan-SLI.html#hero-specification
AC Adapter - 230W adapter x 2

 

Hmmmm, with regard to the -069 SKU, I was speaking to the CPU.... didn't notice the PA spec. My understanding is if it's a GT83VR w/ SLI 1080's, it should have a 660W PA.... don't understand the -069 SKU being spec'ed with a 460W PA. I'm thinking this must be another typo error. I guess we'll have to wait until reseller's have actually taken delivery.

 

i noted this already but the 069 and 024 sku's still dont make any sense as they are priced and documented...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nvidia-gtx-1080s.794897/page-22#post-10323045

seems like 200 dollars are being charged for a locked cpu, but then u are given ram with "headroom" beyond what cpu is specified to handle (2400 provided with 024 sku, versus 2133 limit by processor)....warranty is listed as 1 year on the 069 which is also odd...power bricks also differ as mentioned above

i have put my order for gt83vr-sli , on hold until i get clarity behind
1)the trade-in program
2) clarity for specifications of both sku

i appreciate gentech accommodating my request to put it on hold..the issues of upgrade-ability and sku confusion are clearly with msi and not gentech

I would love to be in here giving a positive reviews and mods for the new model as i have on previous generations of msi laptops since gx640, but looks like @ -=$tR|k3r=- might be having to do it all by himself, while this stuff gets figured out

 

Meh, none of your reasons to place your order on hold, were ever a concern for me. Hey, I sold mine, remember, and to bring my older unit to the level of the new GT83VR -024, I still would have to purchase the NVidia 10 series GPU upgrade kits (if it were available), double the system memory, double the primary SSD storage.... and I'd still be lacking the improved cooling system, and working through EC and PA mods. So yeah, it worked out good for me. I suspect all of those things will come into consideration with any trade-in offers, and not likely cheap there folks..... and certainly not FREE.

Just say'in......

Anyhow, yeah, I seriously doubt I'll be alone in this venture, but, we'll git er' done, with ya, or without ya.

 

i partly agree- if i had sold my gt72, the upgrade program would not be of concern, but i do feel this was very misleading if msi fails to deliver what they marketed and promised.

as far as sku spec, it may not matter to you, but if i had a choice----- if ram , warranty and power supplies were equal i would choose the unlocked cpu. extra 2 bins on multiplier is not hard to overclock and if the cooling system is really that good, then the unlocked cpu should be able to go much higher than that.

 

I sold my GT72 too, anyhow, like I say, none of that was even a concern for me. I don't generally keep notebooks very long, with the exception to my old road warrior. I simply chose a different path, worked out fine, and it's really different strokes for different folks.

I'm thinking the warranty and PA's are the same, could be wrong, but if so, it will be a major WTF to me. We'll know shortly as soon as resellers take deliveries.

 

a video review with the internal looks coming soon? or we be waiting for notebookcheck again..

 

Striker's GT83VR is here

 

I'll be right down to test it out for him!

Then we can test it against the P870DM3.

 

Nice a whole 'nuther laptop weight taken up by the wad of cables, adapters, and PSU's

What's that little box the PSU's are plugged in to in front of the bigger dual PSU adapter? An Adapter-Adapter?

 

Looks like they do not want you to travel without both adapters. I almost thought that was the same with mine till I did the reboot. And was able to game on one psu.

 

AFAIK the 6920HQ is also unlocked, and can be tuned with XTU.

Maybe Ken/Kevin/GenTechPC can check out the OC'ability of the 6920HQ in a video next time they run across a laptop with one?

 

Yipe, both power supplies cable outputs are fused together into a block that plugs into the dual PSU unit? I hope not...

If 1 PSU is flaky are you stuck, and you could have run on the other PSU while waiting for shipment for a replacement of the failing PSU? Now you are off-line if either fail, and your "backup" PSU is locked onto the failing one. Yipe.

 

BOO-YAH! Thanks KEN! AND, absolutely NOT, johnksss is NOT to use mine as his test-book.... he can use Jason's inventory all he wants, NOT mine! Let's be VERY clear about this! Ken, I want an injunction and protective order for my notebook, the sheriff standing by, and johnksss is not to get within 100 feet of my notebook, ya hear? LOL!

 

It looks like that part may be opened though with both tips intact.

@GenTechPC Is that possible?

But, But, But....That's where my laptop came from.

Edit: Besides...I only want to push one button. That automatic over clock button to see if it crashes.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, John..... you and I both know, it could never end with just one button.

 

6820 is HK series, the 6920 is hq series...afaik there is no 6920hk..if there is its not in intel ark....only k series are completely unlocked for a few years now..all other chips u get 2 free bins via xtu on core and cache which is technically overclocking, but by no means do real overclockers consider it so..thats why intel makes the k chips

thats why the sku's doesnt make sense..you'd think they would put in the most overclockable chip into the most expensive machine, but as is one has to pay 200 dollars to get a locked cpu

 

It was a typo, correct as HQ in my first usage, then dropped in the HK the second time. Fixed.

 

As it turns out, most chips at 45w stabilize at the same 4.0ghz. Some may push it to 4.1ghz, but both CPU's are gonna run about the same OC or bin step. It works out the same.

 

you are making assumptions which do not allow for the bin lottery to be played, which is part of overclocking