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Has any one does a LM repaste on this system yet ?


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The main differences are locked CPU, slower SSD, and 1x 16gb ram instead of 2x8gb ram on more expensive model, which I'm not really sure are worth 700$ more all I would be doing is gaming no CPU work, but what I'm afraid of is huge CPU bottleneck on games like GTA V where my frame rate will be dropping on max settings and msaa on locked cpu, is it possible that with overclock of CPU I could gain 20 or more fps compare to locked one?

 

Not as far as I know, but @Mr. Fox repasted the SLI Clevo 1080's with LM, but he took VERY good precautions--there is a 0% chance of LM leaking out into the PCB after the hard work he did.
He said you're best off just using Kryonaut on the GPU's. The heatpipes with the larger chip surface are already working at high efficiency for what limited cooling can be done to a laptop GPU, so you will only get a few C difference going to LM from Kryonaut. Big gains will come from the CPU, but unless it's an unlocked CPU (6820hk or 7820hk), don't bother putting LM on a HQ CPU.unless it's a 7920HQ (only one that clocks high enough to be of use)

 

Hmmmm...the faster ssd won't really be noticeable. The Ram is more for expandability I guess.

I don't think it would be a hugely noticeable difference in cpu. Though personally I would suggest you stay closer to the higher end with the 79 and 78 Cpu's.

I'll dig and see if I can find a comparison video for you.



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Hi guys,

Can someone let me know please if 1070 sli version of Gt83vr is silent enough under load and during idle conditions?

 

I'm testing that as we talk


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Fan I set the fan noise to basic and set it to about 20% and fans run quiet and the system temps stay nice .. I only texted it in player unknown .. right. Ow I'm trying to figure out if it worth spending the extra money for dual 1080 system looks to be about 1k more


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Are you going to be playing past 1080p?

I have mine pushing a acer x34 at 94fps frame capped. If you are going to be doing a similar set up I highly recommend it. If not dual 1070's will last you a good long while at 1080p even if you OC the screen.


@PredetoR_TR depends what you are doing with it. The 1070's are substantially quieter than the 1080's from what I have heard. Even that being said when playing at 1080p on the internal screen or my buddies 144htz external mine does not get too loud. It's just when I get silly playing my games at 1440p lmao.


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How has scaling been is games I only tested the one


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So far I haven't noticed any big issues. GPU utilization I couldn't really tell you a whole lot about. But the big AAA titles I have played have no issues so far.....though I usually wait a little while before I jump on the band wagon.

The one notable would be Neir: automata I have to use a mod to get it to fit to 3440×1440 properly and that does not play well with dual cards but it runs 59+ at high and ultra settings with no dips.

The games i have that can only use one GPU don't see any benefit or much if any drawback. Those being stellaris, space engineers, game dev tycoon, banished etc.

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I just found an open box dual 1080 system with 1tb SSD and 64gb ram for 3200-10% off How much louder is the 1080 sli system over 1080 system and is it worth the extras 700?


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Not a whole lot louder I wouldn't think. I can still have a convo with it going full blast. I play with headphones though so I can't hear it. Lmao.


Also single 1080 system. Isn't that only on the 73/75.

If it is you also get a mechanical keyboard too.

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I had the dual 1070 running very quit but had the fans at 22% ish


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Nice, the 1080's are a bit of a different beast if I recall from some of the convos I had with the 1070 users. They are a fair bit hotter and slightly louder. But when I ran mine next to another one I couldn't tell if it was a whole lot louder or not.

Which model do you have?

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I got the Newegg one 069 model .. I think 2850 is a good price for it ?


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Hi guys,

I recently bought this beautiful beast with 1070s in them and 6820HK processor. I just received it few days ago and I first started noticing every application I opened the CPU usage was at 100% and it fluctuated like that even at idle. I decided to upgrade all my drivers, BIOS and EC the same issue prevailed. I decided to game on it anyways and within 15 minuts the laptop shut down by itself. The first 3 times trying to boot it up it would shut down after getting to the welcome screen. After the 4th try, it booted up to BIOS screen where it showed a "partition is being repaired". It was running well after that, no more CPU spikes and all the temps are in the OK zone. I let it idle for 2 hours then all of the sudden I hear the fans spin up to almost 100%. Checking in the task manager I saw "system" application took more than 50% of disk usage. Not long after that, it shut off on its own again. I got the "partition is being repaired" notification again. Now, every time I boot up my laptop, the CPU temp is extremely high. At idle, with CPU fans running almost at maximum speed I get 80C-94C. Without the Cooler boost enabled, it would shut down by itself. I tried resetting the laptop to factory settings without luck since I will always get the message "there was a problem resetting your pc". Please help!

Here's a video of my laptop sitting at idle right now:

 

It sounds like there might be an issue with the windows install or your harddrives.

The only other thing i could think of would be in the MSI Dragon center there would be something called X-boost for usb and HDD. i would disable that because i know it can bumb your cpu and HDD usage to max synthetically to keep speeds up on them.

 

Thank you for the quick reply. I have already disabled the X boost for both USB and HDD in the clip above and the CPU temp was still high.

This laptop came with Windows 10 pre-installed. How can I do a fresh install since I've been getting the error message every time trying to reset it? Also, if its HDD problem, I should just check the SSD where the OS is installed on right? Since my 1TB hard drive doesnt have any files on it.

 

No problem i try and help users when I'm around.

to do a fresh install first id direct you to making a back up image using MSI's software. It' should be easy just grab a 32gb usb and let it do its thing, then I would grab another one of 8Gb or 16gb I don't recall what windows needs, and then create a windows 10 installation media on the drive. Restart your computer and run through the instructions as per prompt. I think on these ones you can only install onto the NVME drives. i tried doing it to the 2.5 inch partition and it wouldn't see it or when it did work it wouldn't see the m.2 spec drives.

I think there are ways to "healthcheck" your SSD's with some software but i cant recall the program being used.

@hmscott hey dont mean to bug, if you got a spare moment to help that would be great.

 

Do a clean install of windows Pro or Enterprise (ISOs are the digitallife forums if you search for them), after finishing the install, download shutup 10 and disable all the crap there, and then, go back to these forums, and download the Intel Chipset drivers and your touchpad drivers, then test your system and report back.

 

Appreciate you guys for all the guidance. I'm going to do a fresh install for windows 10 now and will report back to you guys with the results. Hopefully this will solve the issue

 

Is it a free upgrade to windows 10 pro?

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I don't know. You should be able to use a valid windows 7 key, but I'm talking about a CLEAN install, not an upgrade install. (usually, when you use windows 7 keys in windows 10, you have to upgrade to 10 from 7 from the OS). But you can still do a clean install of windows 10 Enterprise (not sure about Pro) and not have to enter the product key right away. At least that will let you see if a clean install of Enterprise will make the system work correctly. We're trying to troubleshoot here, to get the OS out of the picture.

 

Ah yea, I was just curious, these machines only do Windows 10 so I'm not sure how well windows 7 will work. I'm sure we can find codes on the cheap somewhere.

 

Don't worry about the codes. Solve the CPU usage and temp issue first. That's the priority.
Use Throttlestop 8.48 to check cpu core usage after your clean install, then hopefully you can start reinstalling the normal stuff piece by piece until its either fully fixed, or you find the clunker driver which broke stuff.

 

After clean windows 10 install, with only intel chipset drivers it seems like the CPU temperature still remained high even without any usage. May I note, even in BIOS the fan already started to run high. Where should I go from here guys?

 

Try doing a full cmos clear? Hold down the power button (with the power light OFF) for 45 seconds, then release and power on.

Also are you sure the heatsink is making contact with the CPU?
I think you should try a re-paste ASAP if you have any thermal paste sitting around. If not, buy some kryonaut. You should not be getting 90C+Temps in the Bios. This is not a new system, is it?

 

I just did. Now i get an error screen right after BIOS saying the "required dvice isnt connected or cant be accessed". CPU fan still seems to be running loud at this stage though.

 

That screen is probably from HDD or SSD settings (ACPI, Raid, etc). I suggest HIGHLY checking the CPU heatsink and repasting!!! That CPU would not reach those temperatures at stock whatsoever. There's no way for it to reach 90C if you aren't overclocking. The fans seem to be working. Try opening the laptop and check the thermal paste and the connection of the heatsink to the CPU. Unplug the battery FIRST and AC tho before doing ANY work inside the laptop.

Did you feel the back of the left side of the exhaust port for temperature?

 

I'm trying to avoid opening up my laptop since its brand new. But if installing fresh Windows 10 and the high CPU temperature still persist, Im leaning more towards hardware problems. I will try to repaste it tonight to see if there are any improvements. Thanks a lot for your help!

 

The left side exhaust port is blowing cool air out. Does that mean that maybe the heatsink and CPU are not sitting on correctly thus it cant pull the hot air out?

 

Oh, sorry, disregard my last posts.
I just paid careful attention to your video just now.

Your CPU is perfectly fine.
It's running at 40C.

There is a defect in the laptop. Some temperature sensor is busted and not reporting the correct temperatures. This issue could be caused by something signaling wrong temps to the Embedded Controller or some other issue. This is beyond anything I even know about. There's a 'chance' it could be a defective CPU, but I think only Prema knows how these things work. The DTS sensors on the CPU are working correctly. Those are the individual thread temps you see in Throttlestop. But the CPU temperature below that doesn't match anything. The "CPU" temp that you see in Throttlestop is supposed to be equal to the highest thread temperature. So something isn't working properly.

I would suggest RMA'ing the system.

 

Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I'm gona keep you posted on this matter.

 

wanna see an updated version of gt83vr with desktop cpu in it.

 

Would be nice but I doubt we will see it. With the newer hex and octa core cpu's things are probably gonna get a lot hotter.

Ryzen and core i9 require bigger coolers as is.

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well 8700k coming soon, 6 cores they could just have that instead.

 

IMO I don't think we are going to see a 6 core cpu in a desktop format in a laptop anytime soon. Look at the clevo laptops with the desktop processors, they hover somewhere around 70-80c with undervolt, liquid metal, and delidding.

Now if we drop to an i5 or something probably we could do that. you also have to consider a lot of dev's are still not writing well enough for multi thread support as is. I would love to see better load scaling across more than 4 cores.

 

There's going to be 8700K LGA Clevos... the CPU TDP is the same as prior K series for a start. Temps are an issue of factory and reseller QC, fan profiles favouring lower fan speeds, combined with 90W K series LGA CPUs. A perfect heatsink fit, LM and delid does result in 70-80C temps... when heavily overclocked, e.g. [email protected], [email protected], not at stock + undervolt. Mine for example wouldn't go beyond 60C at stock 4ghz full load unless I deliberately turned the fans on silent.

As for other DTRs with LGA, Eurocom have said there's a MSI based 17" in the works, a bigger brother to the 15 inch Tornado F5.

 

Really? I'll have to do some digging and look again. Thanks for the info.

I'd love to see the gt73 or 83 with a desktop cpu.

Edit: isn't the 8700k still 4 cores?

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The first thing I think you should wish for in the GT83 is a higher res screen... the 17" MSI with LGA socket may be SLI... unknown. It would be great to see competition for the Clevo LGA+SLI beasts! Maybe both brands can push each other to no longer cripple awesome hardware with annoying anti-enthusiast power limits (Prema and Svet would have a lot more free time lol)

8700K according to leaks (latest is a picture taken at an Intel event in China) is 6 core 12 thread and IMO will beat Ryzen 8 core at everything except multithreaded workloads (Cinebench etc). 8600K is 6 core 6 thread, will be interesting to see how that stacks up against 7700K and Ryzen. Amazing what gains can happen in response to decent competition at mainstream price points...

 

Yea the problem is the only other 18 inch screen in production right now is from Asus and they are not inclined to share.

I saw a leak about the i3 8350k I think it was performing close to the 7600k or 7700k in multi threaded performance.

And yea more legitimate competition would be a good thing. If they managed to build a GT73 with desktop cpu and dual xx80 I'd consider buying it. As it stands now I have a tentative waffling between the clevo successor to the 870dmg3 and what MSI releases down the road.

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woah can you link me to where they say that? thats good news

 

Hello guys,

A little update to my CPU overheating issue. I took my laptop to MSI warranty center in my country. After a long week of waiting for the technicians to find out the issue I finally got my beast back. According to the technician it was due to too much thermal paste causing micro bubbles between the heat sink and the CPU, thus not cooling it effectively. From my initial testing the CPU runs normally now. No usage spikes and idles at 35-37C. I'm going to do more testing and report back to you guys.

I'd like to thank you guys for the support and the vast knowledge about this laptop.

Falkentyne and Nuclearlizard thank you so much for taking ur time to help me out. I appreciate it a lot

 

You're quite welcome. I'm glad your laptop is working fine.!

But i'm on a 'let's brick my laptop' tear to try to remove these absolutely silly power limits.
But i don't have enough information. If the EC firmware uses checksum32, I can make the flash "succeed" but then it will either brick on POST (if an unencrypted checksum fails) or actually boot and I would have fun with the power limits. But sorry I guess I am thread crapping
Others told me to just enjoy my laptop but i can't. I just can't. people dont know my life. People don't understand. Everyone judges things from their perspective and most of them are much richer, happier, have relationships and are stable and not in danger of dying from a disability.

Someone who reads these forums MUSt know or have the ability to do something. This world is TOO BIG for someone not to know.

I can keep the checksum the same, looking at these values in a hex editor (HxD)

CPU_CrtT = 1.CPU_ThtlT = 1.CPU_ThtlT = 0.SYS_CrtT = 1.SYS_ThtlT = 1.SYS_ThtlT = 0

by changing the first CPU_ThtlT to a 0 and the second to a 1. This will keep the same checksum32 and make the flasher flash it.
But then what? is there also an unecrypted checksum check? Someone has to know....

@hmscott
You've received tools from MSI before under NDA. Surely you MUST know something.

 

No, I don't have any tools or info that can help, sorry.

 

There is a msi version of prema somewhere on the msi forums. I can't recall his name. But he should have tools or knowledge that could help.

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Svet

Already been asked afaik, he doesn't mod ECs only BIOS

 

Ahhh. That's no good. I wouldn't know how to do that stuff either, lol.

Don't have much time to fiddle around now a days and even less time to fix my mistakes.

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Hah. The key to being rich is to get paid while fixing other people's mistakes!

 

True enough, that's what I do all afternoon and yet my cheque isn't all the larger for it. Lmao.

To bad this monster machine would blow up the vehicle power plant if I tried to wire it in. Or it would kill someone if it broke loose.

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