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    ***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Aug 13, 2016.

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    Lol yea I 4got was thinking Razer but spouted (cr)apple specs lol...

    If u want video proof of blade pro issues I prob have some filed away somewhere
     
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    It's always been that way, mostly anyway, some new titles support SLI coming out, but most don't, then they add SLI support later - and before that some come up with nvidia inspector hacks to use an old profile and make it work on the new app.

    It's really a running joke, the anti-SLI guys come up with a list of new games that don't support SLI, making that their reason why SLI sucks, but after a few months most of the titles drop off that list and support SLI, so they come up with a new list of more new games.

    It's not hard to come to terms with the situation for SLI, and enjoy the benefits, it's just alot easier and cheaper to name new games as justification for not getting an SLI laptop.

    Again, you seem to not be "with the program" when it comes to SLI, even after owning an SLI laptop.

    I'd recommend getting rid of both the Razer and GT83VR, and then build a killer desktop, and wait for another round of laptops that fit your needs better.

    There's a lot of fun to be had in the new Z270 desktop builds :)
     
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    Only 1 year warranty for a $3.3-5k laptop is a total ripoff...
     
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    Yes, as I recall it's usually a 10c-15c improvement from delidding a 6700k/6600k, so the 77xxK series are at least 5c or more worse.
     
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    See @HaloGod2012 the multi-gpu support is ramping up ;)
     
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    The GT80 needed a 3rd fan too, for Haswell / Broadwell / Skylake, it wasn't a problem when undervolting, mine kept the temps low, but that 3rd fan was an option many suggested for years before MSI added it.
     
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    Not quite, you are still putting it out there that the Kabylake silicon is running hotter at the same clock frequency, and I'm saying it's not.

    I'm not expecting to see any increase in thermals from laptop Kabylake CPU's over Skylake CPU's running at the same clock frequency, given the same cooling.

    Variable results are going to be rampant, what with paste and heatplate mating issues being what they are with all laptops these days.

    It's going to be difficult to judge whether it's the Kabylake CPU or the vendor assembled cooling that's to blame when getting reports from owners.

    We'll need a controlled test.

    But, again, I don't see any reason to expect a problem, so it's not worth even
     
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    The other thing to try, since the GT83VR has the same power plug as previous models - it does right? - is to plug in a single 330w PSU directly into the laptop, and see if it powers up :)
     
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    The only thing I worry about is the EC/firmware expecting a minimum power level and getting unreliable results from use, even after disabling SLI.

    There could be power level measurements that notice only 1 330w PSU connected.

    Since MSI is physically forcing owners to plug in both 330w PSU's for the 1080 SLI and 2 230w PSU's for the 1070 SLI (both GT83VR and GT73VR), it would make sense for MSI to have put in code to check for someone trying to work around this and use a single 330w.

    MSI probably knows it's not stable, so won't support single PSU use.
     
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    That's also possible, but if they implemented that at the converter box level I would guess that they left it at that.
     
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    Ram was soldered on my blade pro 2013. That I do know...
    They used crappy cheap transcend ram...
     
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    Well, I thought I saw sockets in the internal shots of the new Razer GTX 1080 model, I think it's only got 2 slots, and comes with 32GB 2133mhz memory, 2 16GB SODIMM's.

    For me that's a deal breaker, I want to put in 64GB.

    @HaloGod2012 - what's it look like inside?
     
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    yep the idea itself having to pay for extra cpu + gpu just for a mobo is simply beyond retarded, they obviously want everyone to buy 5 yrs of warranty, or just buy new hardware all together which is fine if people like ot keep switching laptop like switching their phone. i get use to mine and understand its problem dont wanna relearn stuff again after 2 yrs, its a pain.

    technically u could solder off the gpu memory chip and also gpu chip itself but i dont think company would do that at all, their factory would be made for initial assemble and solder purpose not desolder, so people would need to find 3rd party desolder machine and those are expensive as fk.
     
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    I haven't tried a single PSU configuration yet. Other than plugging em both into the converter and just not plugging one into the wall. Lol

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Sneaky :D

    So, how well did it run on one powered 330w PSU?
     
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    Mn
     
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    Lol I haven't gotten a single connector yet. I plugged both into the converter due to them being connected but I only plugged one brick into the wall.

    As for how it runs....it dosent. Lmao

    I'm assuming how it works is that the converter box looks for a power source at both inlets, and if it dosent detect it won't pass the charge through.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    My GT83 VR arrives Wednesday, anything I should know on first power up? Any known issues? Or do I just bench the hell out of it and blast the games ? Can't wait to see the new keyboard RGB, 7920HQ, and of course , dual 1080s
     
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    Let us know how the CPU thermals look. The hot delidded 7700K I mentioned before is looking more like an anomaly, so right now I would expect the 7920HQ to run the same or cooler than the 6920HQ since it uses a bit less voltage.
     
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    Do a stock run with firestrike extreme, time spy and some of your favorite games with benchmarks.

    i would also suggest that when you get it you go into the msi suit (dragon center) you disable cross boost.
     
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    Thanks guys , I'll also be hooking this up to my 4K OLED tv occasionally so I'll do some 4K benches in sli supported (or hacked) games
     
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    Nice, that will for sure give it a good stretch for its legs, I would suggest running it through a DP to HDMI converter if your tv can do over 60hertz.
     
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    Hacked?
     
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    Inside of Razer blade pro 2013
    See Any RAM anywhere?

    Also opening it supposedly voids warranty... but my screws had all started to fall out on this replacement anyways and needed constant tightening, thus the seals had already been broken so i went and took an inside photo of it after it stopped working

    http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/587bcdc51f49a/IMG_3041.JPG
    @HaloGod2012

    [​IMG]
     
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    @mason2smart yea essentially they cut out the sli parts of older games with compatable code and inject it into the newer games. Giving it sli support.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    how would I do this?
     
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    I believe the ram was integrated into the mobo and soldered in place on the 2013 models
     
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    I'm not sure. I've seen it pop up on the forum under the gaming software section. So I would assume it would pop up in threads relating to the specific game.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah you can also mess with sli bits in nvidia inspector and get sli decently working on in unsupported games. I did it for tiranfall 2 and doom.
     
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    the ram is likely on the flip side. even if its soldered, u should still be able to see the ram chip, technology wise the chip is required and that doesn't change, no way razer can integrate ram into pcb so we can't see it thats just dumb and also increase pcb cost and thickness, its pointless.

    if you take out the motherboard, flip it around you should be able to see the ram, might be soldered or not, usually u can tell if its soldered when u buy the laptop on their configuration page. if ram can't be increased, its most likely soldered.
     
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    @ole!!!
    umm i think they were literally integrated... I thought I saw little rectangles with "transcend" and 1gb or 2gb on them and that was the ram... if I can remember right...
     
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    here is an example 14 inch... i have circled where i believe the ram is...

    razer-blade-14-inch-gaming-notebook-custom-pc-review-17.jpg
     
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    You probably already have a USB 3.0 Flash drive to run MSI BurnRecovery and backup your recovery partition, but that's #1.

    Update Windows to completion, rebooting as you go to make sure they are applied, and Update Nvidia driver to the latest.

    Then Steam, and games :)

    That's what I do first, just get a feel for how it is working.

    Then after a while I get an urge to install benchmark, stress testing, and work stuff that can load the CPU / GPU to test to make sure they aren't problematic - if no problems came up while gaming.

    Just enjoy it, that's the best part :)
     
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    Pretty identical to what I typically do, excerpt I run benchmarks before gaming to make sure all is performing well :)
     
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    yep thats soldered ram. but you can still see it it wont be hidden inside pcb. if you flip your rbp motherboard around u'll prob see something similar
     
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    How are you guys liking the screen on the GT83? I love high brightness, is it pretty bright on max ? Can't wait till Wednesday .....
     
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    It's pretty good. I like it better than my Asus g750 screen. And yea, it's pretty bright.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Well tomorrow morning it arrives :) Wonder how high I can clock the 7920. It's not unlocked but i remember my 6920 allowing me to go over 4ghz with XTU.
     
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    I think it would be a safe bet to assume 4 at least. Mine goes to that though I've never tied past that. Lol

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    4.0 was the default ceiling on the 6920HQ. 6 bins over the stock turbo is probably how high it'll go.
     
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    where did you get it so early lol
     
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    amazon prime
     
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    There is no sound coming from the receiver. I see it receives some signal, because things changes in the receiver's front panel, but no sound when dolby or dts are checked.
    By the way, there is no option for 5.1 channels...

    But when I connected it though HDMI, I got those surround sound options... It seems something different on the optical port. Don't understand what, but from optical, I only get stereo sound.

    But thank you for your help.
     
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    Yup, the MSI USA site only lists a 7920HK version :)

    Same for newegg, but there you can see there were / are 6920HQ and 6820HK models - maybe MSI will eventually release a 7820HK GT83VR?
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...=BESTMATCH&Description=gt83vr&N=-1&isNodeId=1
     
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    I only see it with the 7920HQ, isn't that actually better than the 7820HK?

    See: Custom Built MSI GT83VR 7RF TITAN SLI-212 18.4" DUAL nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
     
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    The laptop "K" CPU is supposed to be completely unlocked, just like the "K" desktop CPU, so theoretically the 7820HK can be tuned for higher clock and power usage - again, it's early days so we don't know all the limits and quirks of the new Kabylake CPU models.
     
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