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    ***The Official MSI GT80S Titan (w/desktop 980 GPU's) Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Dec 15, 2015.

  1. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    I am in the same boat man I bought this system 9 months ago, major flaws have creeped up and MSI fixes them but wants me to spend another 5k. I'm not a happy person with this.
     
  2. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    @CARL JONES, @lichensoul,

    False advertising? There was none. Major flaws? Not really, for enthusiast perhaps, but not for most users. The GT80S was an overall success. It's understood being frustrated when a new improved unit arrives on the scene, but that's about the sum of it. I think you guys are about to rehash an issue already discussed here. Please read HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE..... not that it will be much consolation to you, but I think that's about the reality of the situation. Personally I sold my GT80S (a thought), and now I'm moving on to the GT83VR..... till the next improved tech arrives on the scene.

    :)
     
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    zziplex Notebook Consultant

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    I thouth if u spend 5k you do not spend the same 1yr after... Feel free to burn money and sopport MSI business. I will not do the same.


    Inviato dal mio ALE-L21 utilizzando Tapatalk
     
  4. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hmmmm, I can only assume you did not read or understand the links I posted above. There was no wrongdoing here, and it's common, if not expected by consumers, that new arriving models be improved...... and actually, new models are trending much less than a year now. I'm sorry you cannot follow this trend.

    Anyhow, I am done with this....disgruntled customers always arise, when newer models are released with significant improvements.

    :)
     
  5. lichensoul

    lichensoul Notebook Evangelist

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    First of all the power draw problem IS A FLAW PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care what any one says ("it is designed that way") not being able to use the full power of the system power supply is a FLAW. I and several others have been saying it since it was discovered.

    I am not upset that there is a new system out on the contrary I am excited to see what is next as a gaming notebook fan. I have said all along I love my notebook I just wish MSI would fix the EC to use the power that is available for the system.
     
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  6. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes, we can definitely agree on your point, and at the same time, we know why they did that. As to this, it will be interesting to see what awaits us with the GT83, especially now that we're getting a decent PA. I've heard it rumored we can now burn em' up if we like, but nonetheless, I will be very surprised if we don't still see restrictive bios or EC. GT80 owners may yet see an EC revision, perhaps even the sale of the new PA's..... doubtful IMO, but if they do, I wouldn't expect this until the GT83 is well underway. Who knows, but we'll know shortly!

    :)
     
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  7. zziplex

    zziplex Notebook Consultant

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    no no.... I just comment on the fact you sold already you GT80S (newer than my GT80 hanswell) and you are going to buy the new one...
    I have money enough, but I will never give 5000 to MSI every year (fan boy Is a dangerous life style)


    by the way thanks to put in doubt my understanding capability...I guess you got an Oxford edication :)
     
  8. fabiosky123

    fabiosky123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Personally, I think that MSI will not fix the power problem because otherwise there would be a sharp drop in sales of gt83vr.
    The difference in performance between the 980sli and 1080sli would be reduced and there would be no reason to switch to the new model or upgrade to new graphics cards.
    (I own a 980sli gt80s)
     
  9. zziplex

    zziplex Notebook Consultant

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    I believe the graphic card upgrade is more a marketing topic then a real option...
     
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  10. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, that's quite the cynical view, but I can understand it.

    Hate to be the one to break it to you, but the 1080 clobbers the 980 in performance improvement, there will still be a big reason to upgrade. :D

    It's just that not everyone can upgrade every year, and putting at least 2 years of full performance between upgrades is "normal".

    MSI should make a fix kit for the GT80S 980 SLI owners.

    There aren't enough blind faith fan boys out there with matching cash reserves, MSI needs appreciative normal owners to stay on board for their next upgrade cycle.
     
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  11. CARL JONES

    CARL JONES Notebook Consultant

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    Look guys all I'm saying is that MSI should give me the option to upgrade the unit I already have to at least the 1060 because that's what they did say we would be able to do for two generations I want them to live up to what they said. I want to be able to upgrade my system that's all! all this other stuff you guys are talking about is all fine and I know that systems get better every 3 to 6 months I just want the option to be able to keep up a little not buy a whole new $5000 system. Plus I like making the upgrades like I use to do on my desktop, isn't that what us enthusiast do?
     
  12. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The 1060's don't have SLI capability.

    You want 1070's as a minimum to upgrade an SLI laptop, and 1080's if you have a GT80S 980 SLI :)
     
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  13. CARL JONES

    CARL JONES Notebook Consultant

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    ;) ;) ;) ;)
    Yea what he said LOL ;)
     
  14. CARL JONES

    CARL JONES Notebook Consultant

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    All I'm saying is that MSI should make a GTX 10xx available for my GT80s and let me worry about the power and cooling of it, hell I'll sit it in the icebox when I play if I have to :D
     
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  15. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The cooling you can do on your own, but increasing the power requires MSI to provide an EC/BIOS update to support more than 1 330w power supply - if you hook up 2 x 330w PSU's the GT80S won't draw more than 330w max, as if it only had 1 330w PSU attached.
     
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  16. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    When MSI first came out with the MXM upgradability concept, it was early-on with the GT72, and there was a considerable lag time before the actual 980 upgrade kits became available. The Nvidia 10 series was just released, so the same will hold true. The kits must be developed, and then produced. I cannot say with any certainty that GT80 folks will see upgrade kits for Nvidia's 10 series, but rather than all the fuss, this is an EXCELLENT question to address to MSI, and we have a thread pinned at the top of the MSI discussion board for this very purpose. If such a kit is produced, there still is the problem hmscott has so adequately addressed.... the EC and PA. This of course is a separate issue to MXM upgradability, but this MAY even be addressed as well..... who knows, but all will take time, and you are preaching to the choir on the mere eve of these product launches.

    :)
     
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  17. hmscott

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    I received this reponse when asking about the upgrade program in the US.

    "our marketing team will announce this in the beginning of next month so please visit our website during that time for more info."

    In response to this message to service:

    "This is a request for additional information regarding the GPU upgrade program. MSI has promised two generations of upgrades for my product and I wanted to know when the first generation (in my case) upgrade will be available."
     
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  19. Heidern

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    I hope to see how it will end. I think bad.
     
  20. Jermzz

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    Ok, it's the beginning of next month. I'm ready :D

    Side question to everyone, what's the best way to go about cleaning my keyboard? I use wipes to periodically clean the metal / plastic, but i'm looking for the easiest way to get in the keys, and the back lit area under.
     
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  21. Heidern

    Heidern Notebook Geek

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    vacuum cleaner with bristles.
    but the best way to clean a keyboard ... it's not dirty it, for example I never use it with dirty hands.
    At least the mechanical keyboard can be disassembled, once in a while all keys should be removed and cleaned thoroughly.
     
  22. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Did you get the bonus metal keycaps with your model? Early on there were gold keycaps, and then red metal keycaps, for the WASD / Esc keys, and that kit came with a keycap puller.

    You can also get a puller here: http://www.shapeways.com/product/TP...m_medium=cpc&gclid=CLW56_yY784CFURlfgodB9sMdw

    There are lots of places that offer that model, and other shapes / tool forms.

    Pull the keycaps, and use compressed air to blow out particles - I put my laptop on edge, brace it, and hold it angled down so the particles fall out when dislodged by gravity.

    It's time consuming, and you need to be careful pulling the keys and replacing them - and don't get the placement mixed up ;)
     
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  23. Q937

    Q937 Notebook Deity

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    If this were a normal mechanical keyboard, I'd say put it through the dishwasher and let it dry for a few days, but that's probably not the best idea.
     
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  24. Jermzz

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    No. they stopped offering them right before, I guess. It was the only thing I didn't get in the bundle. I'll grab the STL file and print the key puller. Thanks for the info!
     
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    IC pullers also work great if you have one lying around and don't want to get a specialized tool just for Cherry MX keycaps. Also, be very careful when pulling the long keys such as the space bar. It's a huge pain in the rear to get those back on properly.
     
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    Hello guys, I just bought a GT80S 6QF (with desktop 980s) I was wondering if the third SSD slot(the free one) is PCIe NVME compatible. I have a spare 950 pro M.2 SSD that I was hoping to use.
     
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    The 3rd M.2 slot is not NVMe.
     
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    many thanks for the quick reply. but will the 950 pro work at that slot? (slow speed accepted) or it wont work/fit at all?
     
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    It won't work.
     
  30. mason2smart

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    It won't work you need a normal m.2 ssd

    How big is it? I might be interested if its 1tb...
     
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    I had a flea crawl off my cat into my computer saw it hopping around in the screen yesterday... Really freaked me out!

    Had to uninstall nahimic yesterday B/c it interfered with my ability to play 3d movies with powerdvd16... Had no audio on TV and played at a weird like 1.5 times speed.
     
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    Does soundblaster still work?
    Any recommendations?
     
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    it is 512gb, I might keep it as a backup then.
     
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    guys, is it possible to keep numpad on by default? I can turn on the numpad but after a restart it reverts to touchpad.
     
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    It is possible because the switching is done by OS.
     
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    Lol meant flea...


    Any suggestions on audio software?
    Any alternatives to nahimic?
     
  39. hedehede81

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    how can I check if my model has thunderbolt support? thunderbolt firmware update tool from MSI failed saying no compatible hardware found.

    edit: OK, I sorted it out, I enabled the thunderbold firmware update under BIOS then it went through.
     
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  40. hmscott

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    Windows 10 has "broken" Nahimic / Realtek several times already, MSI has posted updated drivers - sometimes Nahimic and Realtek paired together in a package to install - I would check the support area for your laptop for new downloads, and the MSI Forums for updates.

    Some have reported that just uninstalling Nahimic and Realtek (in that order), rebooting, and then installing Realtek and Nahimic in that order, rebooting in between, solves the problem sometimes too. Try this if you don't have new drivers to download.

    Upgrade to Windows 8.1, and leave the Windows 10 insanity behind - this random instability induced by MS Windows 10 forced updates is going to keep happening on Windows 10 for a long time to come...
     
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    does soundblaster still work?
     
  42. hmscott

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    Sound Blaster was dropped for Nahimic, MSI stopped supporting SoundBlaster.

    Your laptop never came with Sound Blaster, and neither did mine.

    It's been almost 2 years since Sound Blaster was dropped.
     
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    I tried this and sadly it doesn't work. As I suspected, this is a virtual num lock button, even the OS shows the num lock state as off when you trigger that button. I tried several software which can tell the numlock state and can turn it on or off programmatically and none works. I hope there is another way to turn on the virtual touchpad numpad every time the computer starts?
     
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    You will need to create a custom service that runs before logging in, that "acts" as the touch to enable the numpad. It will require custom programming though, as the numlock button is, as you said, a custom software button and not an actual numlock key.
     
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    I have some programming background, I'll look into it.
     
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    guys, I have gone through the MSI driver update page, done the BIOS and thunderbolt firmware updates. VBIOS was up to date. I looked at driver and utility updates but couldnt see a must-to-update item. I run Win 10 Pro with all updates installed and nahimic seems to work(version 1 I guess) Any recommendations for me?
     
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    The most important ones are the EC firmware and BIOS. Other than that, if it works, you are good to go :)
     
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    Yup, that's all you needed.
     
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    Hey guys, I read back some pages but didn't see anyone else with this issue, so I'll give it a go here before I contact MSI.

    The problem is my D drive is disappearing. I checked under my couch and in the garbage, but it's gone.

    Just kidding

    But really, upon boot, sometimes it's not present. It will also not show up in disk management, it's completely unreachable. Usually if I reboot, it will show up again. There's also an issue where when it DOES show up, it intermittently will crash my whole system when I try to access it. And programs I have on the drive will randomly freeze while using them (virtual box and origin) which is very annoying. Since the raid drive is too small to keep games on, I keep origin and all my games on my D drive which also randomly crash.

    I've tried for kicks updating my bios, and all win 10 official drivers from MSI as well as doing a full factory recovery. But the problem still persists.

    Should I try getting a different drive and trying that to see if maybe the drive itself is faulty? I was hoping someone else had this problem and had a solution. Thanks for any responses.
     
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    Had this problem with a GS70, exact same problem, it was the drive. Replaced it, different problem arose. Replaced drive again with another good one, all is well. Get a new drive while you can still save the data on the old one!
     
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