The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    ***The Official MSI GT80S Titan (w/desktop 980 GPU's) Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Dec 15, 2015.

  1. NdoX

    NdoX Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Well guys on the official MSI page they are promoting a test drive event, for the new laptops that they are releasing. August 20 is the date. If anyone goes let us know your titan experience
     
  2. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Link? Where did you read it, see it? Where is it? Part of another venue, conference, or show, or independent?
     
  3. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2016
    hmscott likes this.
  4. NdoX

    NdoX Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks I forgot about the link, keep us posted pls, but I don't think I can handle myself Without a pc nor laptop until the 20th. And that is if they release it that day or they will wait for feedback and release after the 20th....
     
  5. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
  6. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    You just had to throw in firmware up. :D

    I was just sitting here thinking I would like to have one just in case it runs more efficient than the one from Clevo or do you think it will work as intended?
     
    Player2 likes this.
  7. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Yeah, it's a firmware thing too, at least the ability to use more power than the original spec'd PSU, at least starting with the GT80S series, the GT80 from previous reports all will see the additional power if a dual Clevo PSU adapter is used.

    It's too soon to tell how MSI implemented their dual PSU adapter. It might only be a physical connection, but it's also possible it will have some "firmware" related to working with MSI notebooks :D
     
    Johnksss and Kevin@GenTechPC like this.
  8. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,014
    Messages:
    8,500
    Likes Received:
    2,098
    Trophy Points:
    331
    It will be both AC adapter and EC firmware for this to work. The design is the same as DELL/Clevo since it was made by the same power supply manufacturer.
     
    hmscott likes this.
  9. HaloGod2012

    HaloGod2012 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    766
    Messages:
    2,066
    Likes Received:
    1,725
    Trophy Points:
    181
    so what this really means is, no, we will never have this option on the Gt80S lol. MSI would never give us a new firmware to allow more power. This machine wasn't built and tested for 660 max watts
     
    hmscott likes this.
  10. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    @Kevin@GenTechPC Oh yeah? So can I stop by and test my (Clevo) machine with one of those new shiny adapters??
     
  11. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    To be fair, at the time, MSI had no 2x PSU adapter and so couldn't support it.

    MSI raised the power profile a bit for the single 330w PSU and there wasn't enough of a difference to push the change out for all the GT80S 980 SLI's.

    Now that MSI has a 2x PSU adapter, and a solution in the same frame - effectively the GT80S => GT83S potentially. It's possible the GT83S has beefed up power handling PSU components on the laptop motherboard as well.

    The GT80S might be able to get support for the 2X PSU adapter, if people with GT80S 980 SLI's all ask nicely :)
     
  12. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    A great suggestions, but then they would consider that going backward.... So it may not go over well.....Short answer. Long answer=Super techy mini novel as to why it wont happen.(Their Answer)....Speculation of course. Why? Because it could have been done already.
     
    hmscott likes this.
  13. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    They didn't have the SKU for the MSI blessed 2x PSU adapter, now they do, they can continue their GT80S work, and recover MSI's reputation from the GT80S 980 SLI debacle. It would be worth it for the PR if nothing else.
     
  14. HaloGod2012

    HaloGod2012 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    766
    Messages:
    2,066
    Likes Received:
    1,725
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I will surely ask for one when the adapter is actually released. Can you mix power adapter sizes? say one 240 and one 330?
     
    hmscott likes this.
  15. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I wouldn't think so, but maybe one of the Clevo guys with their 2x PSU adapter can answer.
     
  16. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I wouldn't wait, if you had a contact there before and/or a ticket you can reference, I would reopen it and send along that URL with the GT83 PSU 2x 330 adapter photo's and get the dialog going.

    No time for waiting :)
     
  17. HaloGod2012

    HaloGod2012 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    766
    Messages:
    2,066
    Likes Received:
    1,725
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I just sent the email to MSI now. I asked for GT80S support, and if I'm able to buy the adapter now!!!
     
    hmscott likes this.
  18. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I would ask MSI to send the 2x PSU adapter for free, along with a free 2nd 330w PSU!! :eek: :D

    It's the least MSI can do to undo the damage done by not shipping the GT80S 980 SLI with a proper PSU solution originally.
     
  19. CaerCadarn

    CaerCadarn Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    320
    Messages:
    1,169
    Likes Received:
    1,124
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I wouldn't do that! Used a 300w + 330w brick and it gave me a nice short while benchmarking with heavy oc! I have been lucky that it didn't fry anything.

    If you want, I can post some nice pics from the remnants of it!
     
    hmscott likes this.
  20. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    You would think so, but they never did come out with the dual power supply adapter back then. I'm guessing they came out with one now because they seen that the Clevo handled it fairly well. They also had time to make adjustments to the BIOS to allow for more watts to be driven through the board. I would like to think that someone has already tried to use the Clevo dual power adapter on this machine and it still didn't work. Although I could be wrong. The only reason why they came with a skew and actually made the part was because if they didn't this new batch of laptops would not have worked very well at stock. Unless they came out with Boost 4.0 x 2. LOL
     
  21. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    MSI should have come out with "Killer Multi-Power", AC wired and wireless powered ;)

    MSI "got away with" a single 330w on the GT80S 980 SLI, but they really should have done the dual PSU then.

    MSI can't get away with a single 330w with 1080 SLI, the power requirements are at least 15w x 2 = 30w higher at stock, and that is the margin requiring Battery Boost on the 980 SLI.

    The GT80S 980 SLI guys are petitioning MSI to support the new dual PSU adapter, I think they have a good shot, at least I hope MSI comes through for all of them.
     
  22. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Let me ask you this. Has anyone made a dual PSU for this rig yet? If so, did it work? If not then it might be a bit more than a bios mod, but one can hope it's only that.
     
  23. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,014
    Messages:
    8,500
    Likes Received:
    2,098
    Trophy Points:
    331
    The performance on the SLI still outperforms single GPU, it's just that MSI was really pushing it too close.
     
  24. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The GT80 guys picked up on using the Clevo adapter and dual PSU's a while ago, and I guess it helped a little, but probably were also EC blocked on using them fully.

    Since the GT83 is coming out looking just like the GT80/GT80S, using the same 330w PSU, by 2 this time, I am hoping that only firmware change to allow the power to flow was needed.

    If there are internal hardware upgrades required, then MSI outta RMA all the GT80S 980 SLI's to handle the dual PSU too, give them 2x 330w power supplies, and that new 2x PSU power adapter - all for free - including free shipping :confused: :D :cool:

    And, a gilded certificate of appreciation, with a hearty thank you for being so patient. :eek: ;)
     
    Johnksss likes this.
  25. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,460
    Likes Received:
    12,838
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Yes, this is a given. And of course would not expect anything less. Not knocking any of that. It's a nice notebook none the less, but Enthusiast like to see what it can really do when given the road to run. That's the part i'm looking for. The thrill of the rush you get when accomplishing something people thought wasn't possible. :)

    @hmscott I really hope that is the case, but I'm about 100 percent sure it's not going to happen. And in this case.... I would love to be 200 percent wrong!
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2016
  26. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,014
    Messages:
    8,500
    Likes Received:
    2,098
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Definitely.
     
  27. alexandernigth

    alexandernigth Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    93
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    They announced in facebook agoust 15th....
     
    hmscott likes this.
  28. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Announce, or announce and release with immediate shipments...?

    13902745_1221873301209836_3501141480804277751_n.jpg
    https://www.facebook.com/gamingmsi/
     
  29. alexandernigth

    alexandernigth Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    93
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Sorry...my phone is dying...so bad spelling... my apologies.
    In fb just says agoust 15th....
    [​IMG]
     
    hmscott likes this.
  30. BlessUp

    BlessUp Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    7
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Is there anyway to get hdmi input into the gt80s? Is the only way to use a capture card?
     
  31. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2016
  32. asdfchink

    asdfchink Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    16
    4999usd for base?? damn, that's steep
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
  33. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    4,340
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    698
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I've noticed several mentions regarding the new GT83 pricing......

    Yep, it's gonna be pricy, but as in all things, you have to pay to play, and you have to play to win. I liken this to my desire for a Porche 918 Hybrid, but guess what..... at one mil plus, I serious doubt I'll ever own one...... but I still want one. Imagine I step into the Porche forum, and I complain, "But, It's Soooo Pricy". Bottom line: I'm out of my league, and those guys would laugh me out of the forum. As far as that goes, the moderator would probably politely ask me to leave, but again, I STILL WANT ONE, LOL! :D

    Perhaps when considering the price, consider what you are getting for the money. MSI has always been fair in it's pricing, and generally, given the technology, they offer bang-for-the-buck. In all fairness, rather than complaining when looking at price, I think it is far more productive to make comparisons with like products of other manufacturers. After all, the GT83 is an MSI flagship product, and it is geared toward enthusiast wanting 'the-best-of-the-best'. The more efficient 1080 GPU's (with desktop chip and new faster GDDR5X mem.) are pricy beast, and top-tier in the current marketplace. As a comparison, the Asus model with a single (Asus proprietary) 1080 GPU will run $4500. Also, I believe presently the 1080's will be exclusive to the new GT83, and lessor models will see 1070's and 1060's.

    As to the August 15th, that sounds about right, and I predict resellers will have them in late August..... just a hunch, but SOON!

    As to the dual PA's, it will be unique single form factor (dual PA's internally), with dual inputs and a single output to the notebook.

    For those committed to this model, join me on the road to gaming greatness. Upon release, the new MSI GT83 is sure to be the most powerful gaming platform in it's class. Also, MSI has been listening to enthusiast, and I anticipate this model to be the least firmware restricted, and most OC'able, EVER! (hence the dual PA) Unprecedented for a commercial product! We shall see VERY SOON, and much improved (especially cooling design), it sure to be AWESOME..... I think most likely MSI's best flagship notebook, EVER! Stay-tuned, as benchmarks and photos are soon to follow!

    :D :D :D
     
    hmscott likes this.
  34. JasonLLD

    JasonLLD Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    41
    at $4999, GT83 still having 1080p 60hz and no gsync, 120hz and gsync would have been perfect.
     
  35. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    There is only 1 18.4" panel being made, there are no other options available to build into the GT83 :(
     
  36. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2016
  37. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,447
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    6,376
    Trophy Points:
    681
    but the gt73 is 17" right?

    so we have option for different panel specs


    are there differences on the cooling system and performance level between the gt83 and gt73?
     
  38. zziplex

    zziplex Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    56
    are you sure gsync is useful for such MOSTER graphic cards? I used a 4k monitor with my GT80 and I disabled gsync....
     
    hmscott likes this.
  39. JasonLLD

    JasonLLD Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Not sure why you would do that as using gsync is much better than forcing vsync. Since 980m SLI is not going to give consistent 60fps at 4k.
     
  40. zziplex

    zziplex Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    183
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    56
    to me it works without gsync
     
    hmscott likes this.
  41. JasonLLD

    JasonLLD Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    44
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    104
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Of course it would "work" lol. I was just arguing using Gsync would be better for 4k resolution since gsync works best at 30-60fps rather than trying to lock the fps with vsync, and it will eliminate tearings. To answer your previous question, yes, such a monster graphics card would benefit a lot from using gsync, on 1440p 144hz and 4k 60hz. It will lose its effectiveness on 60hz or higher but will still feel smoother since your monitor would be in sync with frames sent by GPUs. 1080 SLI will still get dips below 60fps at 4k in most demanding games so gsync still has its place.

    So if your monitor has Gsync, its obvious turning on gsync is infinitely better option, so I was wondering why in the world would you turn off gsync when your monitor has gsync lol.
     
  42. HaloGod2012

    HaloGod2012 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    766
    Messages:
    2,066
    Likes Received:
    1,725
    Trophy Points:
    181
    hmscott likes this.
  43. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    It's a mish mash of both, unfortunately.

    AFAIK the HDMI in the GT83 is still 1.4a, while the GT73 gets HDMI 2.0, for example.

    I think the heat pipe thing was for the GT73, but who knows :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2016
  44. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    3,447
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    6,376
    Trophy Points:
    681
    GT83 still hdmi 1.4? How disappointing :(

    How about the displayport specs on these machines?
     
  45. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    We need to stop speculating - riffing off the the leaks - and wait till specifications are officially released.

    Information will still be put out wrong, typo's, copy/paste from older spec's, still mass confusion at first.

    But, hopefully the info will get out there quickly, and it will become clear soon after release.
     
  46. Q937

    Q937 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    393
    Messages:
    1,040
    Likes Received:
    1,607
    Trophy Points:
    181
    The GT80S is HDMI 2.0, FYI. I tested it myself with a 4K 60Hz display.
     
  47. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The GT80S specifications and product pages only claim HDMI 1.4...

    GT80S TITAN SLI (6TH GEN) (GTX 980 SLI)
    https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-980-SLI.html#hero-specification

    Specifications:
    Video Port: HDMI 1.4*1, mDP*1, Super Port*1

    Product overview:

    "...Furthermore, MSI innovative Matrix Display on GT series supports up to 3 external displays, 4 displays in total simultaneously through one HDMI 1.4, one MINI Display Port 1.2 and one Thunderbolt™ 3* and laptop built-in display."

    GT80S TITAN SLI (6TH GEN) (GTX 980M SLI)
    https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT80S-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-980M-SLI.html#hero-overview

    " HDMI 1.4, one MINI Display Port 1.2 and one Super Port* and laptop built-in display. Multi-task is made possible even during competitive gameplays.

    *Exclusive Super Port (USB3.1 Type-C interface) for dual 4K external monitors, and portable charging power up to 5V/3A"

    Video Port: HDMI 1.4*1, mDP*1.2, Thunderbolt*1
     
  48. Q937

    Q937 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    393
    Messages:
    1,040
    Likes Received:
    1,607
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Yes, we all know how accurate MSI product specs pages are.

    I can guarantee you that the GT80S can do HDMI 2.0.
     
  49. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    MSI product spec pages are usually accurate after they have a chance to sort them out, and those pages have been up for months. I think they are correct.

    Which model is it? SLI-002, SLI-072, SLI-222, ?

    What did you do / test to show the GT80S HDMI port is connecting at HDMI 2.0 specs? Screen shots?
     
  50. Q937

    Q937 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    393
    Messages:
    1,040
    Likes Received:
    1,607
    Trophy Points:
    181
    SLI-072. As mentioned above, I used a display and selected 4K@60Hz and it worked fine. You'll also notice that the specs here say 4K@60Hz.
     
← Previous pageNext page →