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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    UPS tracking is now reporting my GT80 Titan SLI-009 is 'Out For Delivery'! (Happy Dance, Happy Dance!)

    :D
     
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    Thank you Hutsady and Cormogram. Well, anyway I will have to wait a little bit more before buying a laptop so there's still time to decide/saving money.

    We all expect a nice and detailed review then! xD

    Rhona
     
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  3. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, I am not sure how 'detailed' I will get..... after all, I MUST PLAY first, but I'll post my benchmarks and thoughts as soon as possible. Stay-tuned to the thread's post #2, HERE. By the way, a recent and detailed review can be found HERE that you may find interesting. No doubt, the GT80 Titan SLI is an awesome notebook!

    Enjoy!
    :)
     
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  4. jrapczak

    jrapczak Newbie

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    Is anyone having problems with the built-in mic? It hardly works at all, Windows can't even hear me in the mic calibration and everyone says I sound muffled. I also can't get any mics I plug in to work, either.
     
  5. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Do you own a GT80 Titan, and have you gone into the Windows sound settings, and increased the mic gain? I am waiting for my notebook to arrive today, and I'll look into to this. Normally this is a common complaint with MSI notebooks when using the internal screen mic, but generally externally plugged-in mics will work fine. I had a similar issue with my GT72. Also, are you using just a mic, or have you tried plugging in a headset? How about a USB headset?

    :)
     
  6. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's HERE! The GT80 Titan SLI-009 has landed..... TIME TO GET BUSY!

    Thanks Ken!

    :D
     
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  7. Cormogram

    Cormogram Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it good? (rhetorical question) :p
     
  8. GTVEVO

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    Does everyone see quite a large temp difference between the gpus? I have always seen some but on the Titan they very even more it seems, both models I owned reported this.
     
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    I have noticed a difference, 10-15C or more even. But since both are still low temps I call it good. The performance and benchmarks don't seem like one is slacking. It could be how the heat transfer pipes are designed as they are not symmetrical and one design is doing better then the other.
     
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    Yes, I do have one and have tried everything you mentioned. For some reason even external plugin mics and bluetooth headsets have not worked well, either.

    I'm also not too impressed with the keyboard quality. Several keys are "squishy" instead of clickey (backspace and enter, particularly), and annoyed by little things like the numpad not being accessible unless you are logged in to Windows (logging in with a PIN using the numpad doesn't work now).

    Anyway, things like this are pretty disappointing, because I returned the ASUS ROG G751JY-DH72X to get the Titan instead and I feel like the ASUS had much better build quality on top of being much quieter and lighter with a really slick design. :/

    Jesse
     
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    Congratulations Striker! Mine technically arrived but I need to pick it up.... I will have to painfully wait until next week before I can open mine! (got a 001 myself) :)
     
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    Honestly, they are not even on the same ballpark in performance or target audience. the G75 would be more inline vs GT72. I can understand your disappointment, but I will have to see for myself :)

    So far I have only heard positive things, so it strikes me as interesting that you feel disappointed. I shall see how it goes with mine!
     
  13. Electronaut

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    Congrats =)

    My 009 is a few weeks out, apparently :( ... some drive availability issues... but I'll live vicariously through you for a while!
     
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    I hope they review the Titan along with the Aorus X7 Pro. I would like to compare their performances with SLI even though one is 980m and the other is 970m. And of course form factor. I'm just curious to see how far off they are one from the other.
     
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    is anyone else experiencing cpu temps in the low 90s? sometimes mid 90s still waiting for new paste to arrive!
     
  16. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    NiNoDukEz, which model and CPU do you have? (time to update your SIG..... ;))

    My GT80 Titan SLI-009 w/4980HQ arrived yesterday, and in benchmarking (stock settings, stock fan profile) my CPU temps peaked to 96C (204F). I must say, in light of the KitGuru review, this is somewhat a disappointment. I had the CPU and GPU's repasted with ICD, so I was surprised to see the CPU temps getting uncomfortably high.

    Before I pass judgment here, I first want to insure that everything is good with the TIM application and cooling solution..... so for the moment this should not give cause for alarm. As such, I'll probably return the notebook for further evaluation, and hold off on my thoughts and benchmarks for the thread's post #2.

    The following are the benchmarks I completed last night:

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    Enjoy!

    :)
     
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    superkyle1721 Notebook Evangelist

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    So out of curiosity how do you guys like the overall design of the laptop? I'm a bit skeptical about the keyboard pushed forward and the large empty space above it. Seems to me that could have done something with that space and really nailed the perfect laptop.
     
  18. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is nothing wrong with the design and build quality is very good. The keyboard is pushed forward out of necessity, to facilitate the needed space of a mechanical gaming keyboard.... a world first in the notebook industry.

    :)
     
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    Striker these temperatures got me worry!
    Can you do Unigine Heaven too?
    This is a problem with the 4980HQ?
    Any other 4980 owners?
     
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    I don't have any problems with temps and the 4980 so very puzzling for sure.

    I do plan to test icd and clu after 30 days though to improve.
     
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    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I really don't see a need for others to be worried at the moment. I had the CPU & GPU's repasted, and this could be an isolated issue. I need to have the TIM application and cooling solution re-evaluated. Also, I did both the Unigine Heaven and Valley benchmarks, temps were lower and the scores were excellent..... but I saw no point in posting further benchmarks until I have the system checked. I'll post another set of benchmarks when this is done.

    :)
     
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    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am hoping my situation is isolated, but could you please post benchmark screenshots as I have done, for comparison? Also, can you please have HWMon running while running the benchmarks, and use stock settings and stock fan profile (no Cooler Booster)?

    THX!

    :)
     
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  23. tikutuco

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    Can you please, post your results with the 4980? I couldn't find them.
     
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    LOL! Can you please re-read post #322? :)
     
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    One thing I would like to verify is does everyone see the GUP temp differences, seems
    With that test I did pull out the temp readings and posted them below for a first run control

    FS_Phy_CPUTEMP.JPG
     
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    After running a full test in unigine Valley here is my max temp readings below. Stock clocks, voltage and regular fan.

    UnigineValley_CPU_Temp_Test1.JPG
     
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    This the highest temps I have seen which is 92 on stock clocks and voltage with this test.

    SkyDiver_CPU_Test01.JPG
     
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    I will test my 001 now and see how temps compare to 4980hq.

    Hope you can gets yours resolved soon Striker! Although those temps are still working condition for these CPUs. I think they start to throttle at 100C
     
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    Actually ryzeki, now that I've seen GTVEVO's temps, I have a bad feeling these 4980HQ's are going be a bit too warm for my liking. His Sky Diver peak temp is only 3 degrees below mine, so no comfort there.
    Thanks for sharing GTVEVO!

    :)
     
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    Sounds like a job for CLU :)
     
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    Well I am still testing and playing with some games. So far my temps are nearly as high too haha, but I am not worried :) I have hit 92 so far, after testing, stress testing, benchmarking continously and gaming some demanding games.

    My GPUs are quite cool so far though hahaha, one sitting at 68 and the other at 78.
     
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    Checked my firestrike with MSI afterburner using +135 core and got 19999, and I so wanted 20k... hehe
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5741867

    I am really enjoying this monster laptop so much :D
     
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    Not to beat a dead horse, but it seems like the Firestrike scores between the 4720 and 4980 are pretty comparable (physics score about 800 points better for the 4980). How are we feeling about the price/performance ratio of the 4980 vs the 4720 assuming turbo boost may be limited with these hq chips?

    At least with these 980m video cards, it seems like there's not too much of a difference although I am still hesitant to spend this much and get the less powerful chip when it won't be upgradable :)
     
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    Did you undervolt?
     
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    I would like to invite ALL retailers to make videos of their procedures of "repasting".
    Use your best TIM and then post your temperature results.
    The best one will get my deal.
     
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    Personally, I just couldn't fork more for the 4980hq because the performance difference was not worth it for me. Both seem to be TDP limited, so I actually can't run constantly at 3.6ghz, and 4980hq won't run at 4+ghz all the time.

    I'd say go with what makes you feel comfortable. I do know some people won't be able to sleep knowing they didn't get the fastest cpu haha. I am happy I have a capable CPU with a pair of powerhouse GPUs :D
     
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    Here is with stock clocks and -50mv on the cpu dynamic offset with 2 runs back to back. Temps are better and a higher score.

    SkyDiver_CPU_Test02-50.JPG
     
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    Sorry to hear about the temp issues, -=$tR|k3r=-. It's pretty confusing to me...but I guess I am biased. I already did not understand why people go to third-party resellers - and in this case; you did everything "right" according to proponents of third-party resellers (paid for re-paste, etc.) - and yet temps were still suspect. Isn't there thorough testing before it goes out the door? Otherwise why not just go for NewEgg and save money and get a more flexible return/exchange policy?

    So now you have to wait and send your laptop back in order to have it investigated? Or do it yourself? After all that waiting you did to receive your laptop? Sounds like you should be due a partial refund or something. Yikes.
     
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    Very good result! Haswell temperature scales exponentially with voltage.
     
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    Sorry guys I did forget I am using windows 8.1, so final result with a fresh boot I high power profile which I didn't have enabled before , everything stock except -50 mv dynamic cpu voltage SkyDiver_CPU_Test03-50.JPG
     
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    Any of you guys tried video editing, motion graphics or other creative applications with your godlike GT80s? :p I understand Adobe Premiere CC benefits from dual GPUs for some tasks and After Effects is able to use multiple CUDA cards for ray tracing acceleration.

    I'd be interested to know your results with some of these creative benchmarks. Also, how about Skyrim or GTA4 with lots of high res texture mods?


    SPECviewperf 12

    Adobe Premiere
    After Effects

    Photoshop
    Encoding
    Cinebench

    PCMark8
    Creative Test
    Applications Test​

    Blender

    Autodesk

    DA:Inquisition max settings with 4xMSAA, 2xMSAA, 0xMSAA
    BF4 max settings 4xMSAA, 2xMSAA, 0xMSAA
    Assassin's Creed Unity max settings
    Witcher 2 max settings, uber AA enabled
    Evil Within
    Lords of the Fallen
    COD Advanced Warfare max settings including Cache Sun Shadow Maps, Cache Spot Shadow Maps
    Metro Last Light max settings
    Skyrim with high res texture mods
    GTA 4 with iCEnhancer C ( video)
    Morrowind with MGSO 3.0 Graphics Overhaul Mod
    Civilization V Huge Map with max AI opponents (22) (does it crash at late game)
     
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  43. tikutuco

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    Does anyone know the temperatures that the Clevo P377SMA reaches in benchmarks? Being the only competitor with 980m SLI, it would be interesting to compare.
     
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    From a lay person who is not farmilar with what temps are good/not good I have mixed feelings about the GT80 2QE-014AU (equivent to the 009).

    The laptop feels much lighter than I was expecting for it's size yet it still manages to feel solid. The keyboard is by far the best I have ever used on any device. I nevere thought I would have such a satifying feel in a key.

    Having said that the resolution on a screen that size is a bit jaring. It is definetly ment for gaming as I felt simple desktop items, while you can do, made me feel like an old person having turned up the size on everything.

    My internet at home is still down but I have managed to install farcry 3 on it and run it on Ultra settings. It runs fine until it keeps crashing in the village where you start after 10 mins but I believe that is resolved with a patch and isn't an issue with the laptop itself but the software.

    While the game looks and sounds beautiful it's a little distracting trying to hear the game over the jet engine of the laptop fans. I put my hand next to the exhust and it is definetly pumping out a ton of heat, which cools dramaticly one I press the full fans button, yet makes the laotop MUCH louder again.

    This isn't a fair test as I can only run one unpatched game on it at the moment until I get access to the internet (hopefully tomorrow) but inital impressions are that while the laotop can run whats thrown at it, it's fans will be screaming while it does it.
     
  45. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Ideally, we (gamer enthusiast) want max technologies, with well managed temps and fan noise. Keeping high-powered systems cool and quiet has always been the goal, and finding the right happy-medium or balance can be an engineering feat. This is what makes newer, more power-efficient technologies so exciting. But over the years, I cannot begin to count the number of notebooks that missed-the-mark of acceptable temps and/or fan noise.

    To this end, currently I am most happy with the GT72, which finds the near perfect balance...... great temps, good noise levels, and awesome gaming performance.

    When I purchased the GT80, I fully expected higher temps and fan noise, but when standard benchmarking temps creep into the 90's (95C), red flags raise and a warning alarm goes off in my head, "WARNING, WARNING, WARNING WILL ROBINSON..... WARNING!" Though these GT80 temps are considered within limits, they are still too toasty for my seal of approval. Nothing depreciates component longevity more than high temps..... the cooler, the better..... and to me, my temps are more disturbing, considering this is an embedded processor.

    When I read reviews showing much lower temps ( such as the KitGuru review, automatic fan settings, 30min Crysis Warhead & 30min Furmark showing the 4980HQ @ 78C), I must assume my GT80 has a cooling issue, or they actually conducted their testing using Cooler Booster 3 with the fans running at 100%..... in which case, the notebook would sound like a hand-held hair blower. As to Cooler Booster 3, I can see using this when OC'ing or testing a VBios mod, but I do not believe this is something we want to experience during a normal gaming session.

    When I post benchmarks, I do so 'stock', using stock settings and fan profile, to best represent what users can expect of an 'out-of-the-box' experience. Most users do not undervolt, OC, or bio-mod, nor should they have to achieve acceptable performance levels. Such as this is best left to knowledgeable enthusiast, and it is up to the manufacturer to deliver a product, 'As Advertised'.

    Anyhow, in any event, I am reserving my final thoughts for the GT80 until I look into the CPU temps further.

    :)

    @sk3tch: Understood, but actually I am a proponent of purchasing from a reseller, believing this provides better customizable options, a better level of customer service, and an added level support.... especially when I need to deal with the manufacturer. I have absolute confidence when dealing with my reseller (Ken), and regardless the outcome, I know Ken will make things right.

    :)

    GTVEVO, I think you are on to something here, and I will pass this on to MSI..... Thanks!

    :)

    @moviemarketing: You don't want much, do you? LOL! :D

    I'll run PCMark 8 later on. I think that will cover a good portion of your interest.

    :)
     
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    Is this just Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options or is this something else?
     
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    It's in the MSI dragon gaming center / device setting. Power profile setting basically.

    High performance button
     
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    That is a great question. For me, it really is down to the GT80 Titan and the Clevo P377SMA. If i did not already have a 780ti sli desktop, I would pick the Clevo as I would always be hooking the unit up to a monitor and I would not really care about the quality of the panel.

    However, I really do plan to use the panel at least 75-85% percent of the time and the panel on the gt80 is supposedly great. Plus the mechanical keyboard probably will mean I do not have to always bring my orbweaver around.

    Internal specs, I think it's pretty clear the P377SMA wins with the MQ cpu chips. The ability to have an i7-4910mq is very appealing to me. Audio is probably better on the gt80 overall. Pricewise the Clevo is somewhat cheaper (although you may have to factor in a do it yourself monitor upgrade) and you can use mSATA drives and the 2.5" slots are SATA III rather than SATA II as in the gt80 titan.

    Both are great machines, but if you are planning to use your laptop panel and you don't have the skills or confidence to upgrade the Clevo panel, I think the GT80 Titan has to be a heavy consideration.
     
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    Talking about the P377SM-A: Is it possible to have all 5 drives (2x mSATA + 2x SATA and the last one in the optical bay) in RAID 0?
    Will all of them work in SATA 6Gb/s?
    Just discovered the HM87 have only 4 SATA 6Gb/s ports. :(
    So, how many drives can the GT80 have?
    4x mSATA + 2x SATA?
    All mSATA been 6Gb/s and all SATA been 3Gb/s?
    Can I RAID 0 them all in a single volume?
     
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    I definitely feel like I should repaste the CPU. My GPUs are quite cool even overclocked so far. Since I usually run games with vsync, the fans are hardly working and temps are undercontrol. Only heavily demanding games like witcher 2 ultra with ubersampling on reaching 60fps, do I hear the fans pick up.

    I will also check temps undervolted and with a coolerpad. Since the CPU is in the middle, it will be the one benefited the most.
     
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