***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

Thanks! I've already set that to 1 - the lowest possible.

 

Hi everyone! I own a MSI GT80 2QE-i7231S Titan SLI . I got this bad boy for about a week now. Is it normal to see the battery say "plugged in, not charging?". Does it mean I got a faulty ac adapter or battery? Last time it showed, I was able to fix it with a simple reboot and reconnection of my ac adapter. Now I cant fix it This is troublesome. Kindly clarify! thanks!

 

Yes, if your battery is full, you don't want the charger to over charge and damage the battery. If you recently used the battery then it may be too hot for charging, in this case give it time to cool, then restart the machine and it should be willing to charge it.

 

hi...my battery is at 93% so it is not full.
I haven't recently used the laptop and I'm sure it is cold. I already restarted a lot of times

 

93% is pretty full, constantly going from the mid to low 90s to 100% is effectively cycling the battery and using up its lifespan.

 

Ah I see. Cause this is the first time I have encountered this. Thank you for enlightening me. I thought something broke.

 

You can try discharging around to 80% and then trying to charge just to test, don't keep doing this manually in future

 

Normally, windows has been doing the battery not charging for a long while now. It usually is set to 95%, but on GT80, it is indeed set to 90%.

As for issues with network, online play, SLI etc, I am happy to say I have encountered no issues in general, but I did find one game that behaved weirdly, Killing Floor. I had this kind of issue with my GT60 though, since I assume the game is not that hard to run? Dunno what happens with TF2. I will download it when I return home next week and see if I have any issues.

I have yet to update drivers, are the newer/current ones allowing OC?

 

The protection circuit will only charge the battery when it's under 95%, but you should not be concerned of battery life since it's there just in case you need it on the go.
Because it's not removable so there are limitation on what you can do with it.

 

I don't think you should be worried about the battery not charging when the charge is >90%. Refer to the following link: http://service.msicomputer.com/msi_user/support/TechFAQdetail.aspx?formid=2872

If your laptop never starts charging your battery, i.e., even after the charge drops below a certain number (say, 90%), then you may want to re-calibrate your battery and see if the battery starts charging - if not, only then you may have an issue with the battery.

In my laptop, the battery starts charging when the charge falls below a certain number (somewhere between 90%-100%); OR the charging never stops - even at 99%. I am not sure why I see different behavior at different times; like someone else said, it could be due to heat, etc.

 

Well before it was charging even at 99%. Although I have yet to drain if past 90, so far it's on 92%. Hopefully it will charge back and update you all guys. Man this thing costs me 5.6k+$(overpriced in my country). To see a part fail will devastate me :/

EDIT: dropped to 70% from just idling a game. Wow that battery consumption lol. It now says plugged in, charging. Phew, what a relief!. Thanks to all who replied!

 

Joined the club today. Returned my Sager NP8652 for the GT80 -001. All I can say is 'Wow!' This is definitely one serious machine. Does get a touch loud when gaming, but I knew that going in and have made my peace with that. I am considering pulling the 128GB M2s for a pair of 500GB 850 EVOs. Before I do that though I am trying to get a handle on the recovery strategy. I created the recovery drive, but what I really want to know is whether it is possible to a clean Win 8.1 install from the recovery ISO. Does anyone know? I really want to ditch the crap that is installed and would prefer to just do a clean install and not a dirty one and uninstall the junk.

 

The GT80 have four M.2 slots. Why don't you buy four 250GB drives?

 

I did consider that, but felt the performance difference would be marginal for the additional risk. I dropped my 1TB 850 Pro in to replace the spinning drive it came with, but it is sorely underutilized on the SATA II chain. I would have much preferred MSI went with PCI-E x4 M.2 slot with NVMe support and left the 2.5" on SATA III. I am willing to overlook the storage limitations because the notebook is pretty awesome aside from that.

 

I hope they do that on the next gen.
You will get something close to the following gains/losses:

GT80-RAID0 4xStock Vs. 2x840EVO by Cormogram posted Mar 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM

Note1: I didn't find the benchmarks for the 500GB M.2 Samsung 850 EVO and have used the 2.5" 840 EVO numbers instead. That means you will have a slightly slower read and write performance on the M.2 drive, something around -4% on the sequential writes and -1% on random 4KB reads and writes, according to the Samsung specifications[1,2].
Note2: Corrected name mistake ("850" => "840"). Same numbers though.

[1] http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MZ-N5E500BW
[2] http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MZ-7TE500BW

 

Thanks Cormogram. I ordered the 500GB EVO 850s today and will have them tomorrow. Now I just need to get a handle on the recovery situation. Once I get things up and running I will report my findings.

 

Out of curiosity, how much backlight bleed are you guys seeing? I am noticing it at the top edge on the left and right, but not directly in the corners. Don't really see it during the day, but it in a dark room with a black screen it is super obvious. Fortunately, it is a great deal better than the Sager was. That thing was a backlight bleeding nightmare.

 

I notice slight back light bleed at the exact same places you mention. It's not something I would worry about though.

 

Firstly, the 1tg hdd has a recovery partition that you can boot into and use to restore windows to the default state you got your laptop with. Secondly, if you did use the MSI recovery software to create the ISO like you I think you did, I believe you can use that image to again restore windows. However, I am not sure if you can perform a clean install - unless you can get MSI to give you a storage media with the windows installer.

 

Thanks Midou for the feedback. I am not too concerned about it as it is quite minimal. I was just looking to insure that this was normal compared to everyone else. Seems that it is.

So the HDD has the recovery partition? Well, that is good to know. I didn't even think to stop and look at where they were hiding it, but that makes sense. The more I look into this the more I begin to realize that I am most likely stuck with the crapware version for restore. Sucks, but I'll make it work. That is one thing I did appreciate about the Sager was a clean copy of Windows being supplied with it.

 

After fiddling around most of the afternoon trying to get the recovery to work only to determine that my USB stick was the problem I have (finally) successfully got my machine up and running with the 2 x 500GB EVO 850s installed in RAID 0.

Here are the results from AS SSD:

 

It looks very strange to me:

GT80-RAID0 2xM.2_850EVO Vs. 2x2.5_840EVO by Cormogram posted Mar 29, 2015 at 9:50 AM

Are you sure no other processes were competing for the drive?
What driver/version are you using?
Will you encrypt (by hardware) the 850 EVO drives? What's the performance difference?
Will you use RAPID mode? What's the performance difference? Nevermind! Just found out that it doesn't work with RAID.
Will you over provision? What's the performance difference?
Too many questions? lol

 

The results were basically what I expected. The 4K read performance was lower than I thought it would be, but the drives were striped at 16KB and might have affected that. The drives were ~30% full when I ran the test so that may attribute the performance as well. In terms of drivers, I am using the latest Intel RST drivers. There should not have been any other drive processes going, but I can run it again for comparison. AS SSD scored the drive at 1868 compared to 1189 I got with the stock Kingston drives.

I cannot use the Magician tool and therefore cannot use the RAPID feature. Over provisioning is stock and no encryption features are being used.

 

Thanks!
I wonder what's causing the -7% reduction in the sequential test. I guess it's not caused by the stripe size[1].
Why you can't run Magician?

[1] http://linustechtips.com/main/topic...ng-different-drives-vs-same-drive-benchmarks/

 

I installed Magician and it could only see my 850 Pro on the SATA II chain. I assumed that since the EVOs are RAIDed that it can't deal with them. Am I missing something?

 

Does anyone else have a 10C delta between their GPU1 and GPU2 under load? When both are maxed and running the same clocks my GPU2 is consistently 10C higher than GPU1. Is it a bad paste job or is there something odd about the cooling system?

 

This has been reported normal with many of us, the temps are always well under the max so I haven't came to worry too much about it. The pipe design is a bit different between the cards (one using 2 large pipes on the core and the other using 3 smaller pipes measuring out the be the same thickness of the larger 2) this should equal out to be the same cooling ability. The only other thought would be how the actual cores set under the CPU die possibly as the die is split into two areas and possibly leading to the left pipe more so than the right.

I am just spit balling so its not gold.

 

Good to know. Thanks GTVEVO. The loaded temps have been a non-issue and I won't worry about it anymore...

 

So far I have been running my monitor at 96Hz 100% stable. The extra fluidity is nice!

 

That's great news, are you doing this with a custom setting in the nvidia control pannel?

 

Yep! Created the profile with automatic everything, simply started testing with multiples of 24Hz

 

Great idea that makes perfect sense to work equally for all applications

 

That's normal if you've enabled SLI. Once disabled it should balance/reduce.

 

According to Samsung[1] (see General Limitations #15) Magician does not support RAID.

[1] http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...re/Samsung_Magician_45_Installation_Guide.pdf

 

Hello

Is it possible to upgrade CPU from 4720 to 4980 ?
I don't find the answer...

 

Yes but you must replace the cpu and board not just the cpu, so if you are thinking about it just purchase the 4980 to begin with. Otherwise the socket design will change with the new line of intel processors so it wouldn't do any good if it was.

 

Only if you reball the CPU. All H-series are FCBGA.

 

No, as the processors are embedded to the motherboards, and as to future iterations of the GT80 (with Intel Skylake), there is no way of knowing if future motherboards will be compatible with current chassis design.

 

Nice ad!

 

Yes, a very nice production......

 

Thank you all for your answers

So, I ordered the 4980HQ version

Is there any mod for this laptop ? (Bios, vbios,...)

 

So far all that I've know about[1] is the keyboard, but it seems that an unlocked BIOS is been cooked.

[1] http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt80-titan-mods.770137/

 

I tried a bit of triple monitor gaming by taking my coworkers monitors for a couple of minutes haha. So far I only tried Age of Empires HD version, Crysis 2 and Lost Planet 2. All three worked with the 5760 x 1080 resolution setting, and had playable framerate.

Crysis 2 was running maxed, and I didn't have time to mess with the settings, but I was getting around 50fps average. Some OC could bring that up to a nice 60fps.

 

Very nice !

Can we OC CPU with bios ? (Multiplier)

 

I am looking at getting a new gaming laptop. I had a Sager 9860, it was a good one for its day but its long past obsolete now, only able to run software up to around 2010 or so when most everything was put out since was for dual core, 64bit.

This is one (GT80) that I am considering, principaly due to the 18" screen that it comes with (getting old, bigger is better to see)). Most of the rest of the hardware is similar/same with the Sager 9377. Other contender is the Sager 9772, but that does not have SLI (Quadro is available). The Sagers have more bulk storage options it seems and built in multi-memory card reader (useful for use with other devices, though for me I haven't used it more than a couple times so not a must have).

One of the things I read on MSI's latops referred to in threads had to do with the CPU dropping clocks, ie slowing down under load. Under what circumstances are we talking about in respect to this happening?

In general, I would be running the latop off the wall not the battery, I consider the battery in these as more UPS than primary power source (most throttle CPU on battery anyway). Principle use would be gaming (of course), movies, some office/productivity/CAD apps, web cam target scoring ( LASRapp.com). The latter application may be a case of battery use, but I don't think it will be very power intensive other than the camera it uses (its an external IR camera I have to avoid student "cheating" by tracking laser light to align target instead of gun sights).

 

I see some throttle issue with 980m GTX (temp limitation). Can you confirm ?

 

The 980m cards in the gt80 don't show any throttling from my experience. The temp limit is around 102c and the hotest temp I have ever recorded was 84c on the left card, the right card maxed at 78c during a very lengthy stress test and it stabilized there.

Yes you can each CPU will be dependent upon your over clocking abilities as the mobile CPU's are not fully unlocked.

4720 can be raised 200mhz
4980 can be raised 600mhz

 

Speaking for the 4980, the hq mobile CPUs have a TDP limit so the boost window can only be ran at 100% duty/usage for a certain amount of time as most processes were designed. So in reality they will downclock aka power throttle to stay at their TDP which we have all tested and seems to be around 3.5/3.6 ghz at 100% after your boost window has ran (TDP was reached for the allowed time). The reality is that this will only be a factor during extremely high stress times such as playing games at 120fps which the internal monitor doesn't support so it never comes into play 99% of the time during pure use with the GT80 components. I have logged lengthy sessions of FarCry4 (HBO+ /ultra settings) and DyingLight (HBO+ /ultra settings) to see if the CPU would ever TDP/Power throttle and it never happened because it was never at 100% duty/usage for long enough so 3.8 to 4.0ghz was held the entire gaming session.

Hopefully this helps explain what happens and the reason for it but and whom it may affect or be a problem for.

 

Hi There! im Michael from Austria and im a owner of the MSI GT80 with I7 4720HQ, 16 Ram, and GTX 980m sli
Today i run 3D Mark 11 in Performance Setting with Sport Mode and High Performance but i think my Physics Score is tooo little!
Does anyone of you have a idea?

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9629918

 

Perfect thread for you below to offer troubleshooting and to post up your scores and compare.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt80-3dmark-scores-test-and-tune.773245/