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    ***The Official MSI GT80 Titan Owner's Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. ryzeki

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    Well considering 5760*1080 res is less taxing than a single 4K panel, I assume performance will be decent. I don't have three monitors to test at the moment, but maybe I can try something in two weeks, at work hehe.

    You can close the lid indeed when using external monitors.
     
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    Yes, you can output 4K on monitors and TV capables of using it. With my TV that uses HDMI 2.0, I managed to get 4k at 60hz with what appears to be nvidia chroma subsampling. It workst on 4K at 30hz too.

    You should be able to use 4K at 60hz full RGB/colors with mdisplay port and a compatible monitor, easily.
     
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    I have noticed that temps without taxing the GPUs and then taxing the full system, have a delta of about 12 degrees, so I might have 80 degrees taxing the CPU and then 92 when taxing all the system. These temps are bound to be very similar to 970m SLI setup. This is for 4720HQ.

    So far, 980m runs real cool. Even my slightly OC GPUs rarely reach 80/70~ celsious (one does run hotter, don't know why). But this is only for taxing games like witcher 2 max settings and ubersampling. Light games sometimes don't even break 50 degrees lol.
     
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    Ugh, buying a laptop is hard. I'm stuck between the two SLI behemoths of this year: the MSI GT80 Titan and the Aorus x7 Pro...

    The x7 is slim, portable, elegant, and an actual laptop but it gets hot as hell and it's louder than hell...

    The GT80 is by far the fastest and most powerful laptop out right now and with the upgradable features, it'll probably stay that way for a while but it's soooooo big and impractical.

    I just want to be able to game as hard as I want wherever I am. Maybe I should stop playing AAA titles.... >.<

    For those of you that have the GT80, how is lugging it around everywhere? Any regrets? Honestly, if the GT80 had an option to remove the mechanical keyboard and take out some of the weight/thickness, it'd be an instant buy but it seems a bit over the top...
     
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    Thanks. So you are suggesting that the CPU temps are probably going to be the same regardless of whether the GPU is 970m or 980m.
     
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    Hahaha I can understand what you mean, but I really prefer gaming in a stable place, so I don't mind lugging my laptop around, setting it up on a table and game on. I always bring it with my gamepad and headset so I can game whenever I am. Feels pretty good. Since i was looking for maximum performance, I havbe no regrets. Plus I really love the 18inch IPS screen more than I anticipated.

    Yeah, I imagine so. Maybe max temps might be a couple degrees less, but I am not sure. The CPU heatsink is not attached to the GPU heatsinks, its independent, but they share the exhaust. So if your GPUs are not taxed, the temps should be the same. When gaming with a fully taxed system, maybe you will get slightly better CPU temps, but nothing to worry about. At least there is 0 thermal throttle registered on any user, despite the temps some get.

    I am perfectly okay with it. I would worry about it if I could tweak it at very high speeds. 4980HQ gets hotter because it consumes up to 80W, and 4720HQ only around 60W with turbo on. After regulation to 47W TDP begins, both will drop temps sharply to the range of 80s and that is their final temp while on use.
     
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    :), well i still didn't get mine but if it is anything like my AW M18x (which is another behemoth) than i can tell you that carrying it depends on your size, I'm 183cm and i have no problem carrying it on my back to everywhere i go for the past 4 years (though it can only fit in selected few BP and the weight of it is taxing on the back pack ), size wont really matter unless you are trying to open it in confined spaces like airplane seat (impossible in economy class but possible in higher classes), if you game a lot with the native screen than the 18.4" is a huge advantage over the 17" screen.
    striker gave a nice tip to GamingEnthusiast:
    GL with your pick.
     
  8. Midou

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    Thanks everyone for helping me choose a GPU/CPU for my MSI GT80. I've now placed an order on Newegg (GTX 980m SLI and i7-4720HQ). Hopefully, I'll have the laptop in a couple of days.
     
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  9. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Congratz, and Welcome To The Party!

    Enjoy!

    :)
     
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    Thank you very much for your $0.02! I think I'm more leaning towards the GT80 Titan right now solely because of the monstrous advantage over the 970Ms that the 980Ms have. That and another HUGE pro is the upgrade program. I don't think the size/weight should be too much of an issue. I just wish that someone who has tried gaming at 5760*1080 could chime in. It's hard to find any information about that resolution online. I've heard plenty of people talking about 1440p and other very high resolutions but none for the one that I'm looking to actually operate at most of the time. :( For those of you that bought this for being able to go somewhere and game, how is the noise level when on the integrated 1080p screen? If I brought it to a friend's house to game there with friends, would the noise level bother them?

    And I've gotta say, both you guys and the guys over at the x7 Pro lounge have been great. Thank you for all of the information and help. You guys are the best of the best! :D
     
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    Great choice, congrats!
     
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    980M SLI should cope ok with 3x 1080p, a little memory tweak would help kick it up a bit more of course ;)
     
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    Got my GT80 TITAN SLI-009 Yesterday, hell of a Machine :). So far excellent,though I have few qs.

    - Nvidia Geforce Experience not able to identify the latest driver. Check for updates not working, its showing - I have the recent driver installed (stock one -345.09) which is not correct, is this a issue that graphics card not able to identify proper driver??
    - Speaker Bass is too low coming out from it, any way to tweak it?
    - Couple of options are disabled in Intel XTU (Power Time Window/Turbo Boost Technology/Core Voltage Mode/Processor Cache Voltage Mode). Is that normal? Can anyone share the screenshot of XTU for 4980HQ model?? Any suggestions appreciated for overclocking, I changed couple of options to get higher speed, same time considering temp also.

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    With nvidia I had to physically go to the site and download drivers too, no updates were recognized for me either.

    As for XTU they have those options disabled in the bios so we are out of luck unless we unlock it. As for the best settings, a couple of us have tried and used different settings. For me with the 4980 it seems to run the most stable and coolest by running -50 to -60 dynamic cpu voltage offset.

    You should run some tests if you don't mind using 3dmark with firestrike and skydiver at stock clocks speeds and share your results and temps (temps with hardware monitor)

    Enjoy
     
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    Intel it's such a comic pathetic company. XTU is not even able to detect if it really can change the power settings -- off course it's not.
    The "Turbo Boost Short Power Max" and "Turbo Boost Power Max" have no effect on the GT80 and almost all other laptops.
    Unless you have an unlocked BIOS don't lose your time tweaking those bits.
    Try to run with -100mV. I could get steady state with that.
     
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    Thanks @GTVEVO , Will post the Benchmark results.

    @Cormogram Panel Device ID - SDC4C48, I think its Samsung PLS Panel
     
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    I just overclocked my GT80's Display to 100Hz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

    I was pretty darn happy with this computer and now I'm ecstatic! To me there is a huge difference between the feel of gaming at 60Hz and 100Hz. Even moving windows around on the desktop is drastically smoother at 100 than 60.
     
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    It looks like I'll be a member here soon. Yesterday I started looking into some of the highly customizable Sager models out there because as far as I know, Sager and MSI are the only companies that currently make 980M SLI laptops. Well I like the Sager. It's a bit more plain and boring than the GT80 Titan but it doesn't have the mechanical keyboard and it's a bit lighter and a bit cheaper depending on the configuration. Well, I was just about sold until I noticed something rather odd...it only has ports for two outputs...

    To say the least; it's settled now. The GT80 Titan is the only laptop on the market that fits the criteria that I'm going for. I'm hoping to be a happy owner very soon! :D I do have two quick questions, though:

    1) I plan on ordering from XoticPC...when I customize a GT80 there, it still comes with the goodies, right? (the wrist-rest, backpack, etc.) If so, that means I shouldn't select anything under carrying cases, correct?

    2) I'm sure the answer is in this forum somewhere but I don't have the attention span to read all 51 pages...the last I heard, the 4980HQ was giving people issues with higher temperatures. Has anyone found a fix to that? I plan on getting the better thermal compound and the copper cooling upgrade thing that they have. Are there any other problems with it?
     
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    Why did you stop at 100Hz? Did you notice any judder?
     
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    Great choice, I was under the impression that all GT80 orders will come with the extras as they are a package.

    As for the either cpu I highly recommend sticking to the stock thermal compound. If you decide to test later on down the road you can change it but the stock tested better for me than what's being offered as an upgrade. The 4980 does run warmer but it's turbo clock speed is higher and temps but it's not anything to be worried unless you are trying for some high overclocking. No cases of thermal throttling or thermal shutdown have been reported, it runs well within the safe zone as advertised.

    Many of us have posted numbers and temps so i always recommend looking to see. Honestly we should have probably compiled a separate thread on it.
     
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    Do you think the extra few hundred for the 4980 is worth it? The CPU is one of the only non-user-upgradable parts in the entire laptop and while completely accurate, CPUBoss shows a decent difference in performance between the two.
     
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    It seems to be my maximum before the screen stays black when testing. For some reason I have to power cycle when it fails, it doesn't reset after a couple minutes. It does seem very stable at 100 though. I'm very happy at 100, it is a huge improvement from 60. I don't know that I'd seem much benefit going above 100 anyways.
     
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    Ya it's really hard to say as it depends on the purpose you intend to use it for. The 4720 is no slouch as it is more than perfect for gaming on probably 95 pct of situations. The 4980 can just push things a bit further for those short bursts or benchmarking as both cpus are limited to the same tdp. The 4980 does contain much better integrated gpu if you ever decide to use it. For me I felt it was worth the money to pay the overhead now because I hope to keep it. If I don't keep it I don't think it will hurt me in resale.

    The 4980 has lived up to my expectations even when compaired to my previous machine the AW 18 I paid an outrageous amount for the 4930mx and it did NOT deliver.

    Long story short if you aren't benchmarking and don't care about having the option to overclock the cpu by great amounts the 4720 is perfect and a great choice.
     
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  26. AkiraSieghart

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    Right. I bought my current laptop (760M) when the 700 series was first released and obviously well within a year, it was obsolete. If I intend on spending over $3,000 on a laptop, I better intend to keep it for three years. Or at least that's what I'm hoping for. Since MSI has their upgrade program and a guaranteed two generation upgrades, I don't think three years or more is out of the question. I'm just worried about the CPU creating bottlenecks down the line since it is the only component that can't be truly upgraded. I may have to bite the bullet and spend the extra couple of hundred for a more secure future. Well, that and a more pleasant present. :p

    Edit: Then again, Newegg does have open boxes for under $3,000......
     
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    It depends on the source of the video. If you are getting frames from a movie (originally 24FPS) you would avoid judder with 72Hz or 96Hz or 120Hz (divisible by 24).
    If the source have a variable frame rate it would be better to have G-Sync enabled (if possible) and/or to match the source frame rate with your display refresh rate.
    To avoid tearing you just make the maximum frame rate equal to the refresh rate. That's probably the easiest option since there's an option for that in Nvidia Control Panel.
    To avoid stutter you need to make the minimum frame rate equal to the refresh rate. With a double 980M SLI that's not impossible at 100Hz, but you need to tweak the 3D settings on each game/application.
     
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    For 60hz content 90hz usually works well, as noted for films if you have issues setting 96hz should see you ok.
     
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    I got the laptop. It is a beast. Before I run benchmarks and test the system, I used the MSI recovery utility - which created 5 .iso files. I believe these files can be used to restore Win 8.1.

    I apologize in advance for possibly trivial questions - as I haven't used Windows for more than a decade now. I was wondering how I would be able to use the .iso files for Windows restoration. Suppose that I burn 5 dvds from the iso images, and that I create a Windows bootable media as well. In case of an OS or a hard drive failure, do I use the bootable media to boot and format the disk and then use the first of the five dvds to start the Windows restoration process? Would I need to run the application(s) named "dvdRecovery1" / "dvdRecovery2" / "dvdRecovery3" that is on the first recovery dvd?

    Thanks!
     
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    Yes I was able to boot from disk 1 and fully recover back to stock. Otherwise if you have the stock 1tb drive installed you can press F3 and boot into MSI recovery using the recovery partition on that disk. The images you burned are a good insurance so its good that you did get them done right away.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. When you refer to the recovery partition on the 1tb disk, I am wondering if it is something you created or if the machine comes with that partition. How can I create a recovery partition on the 1tb drive?
     
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    The machine should come with one allowing the MSI recovery to run via F3. You can check under disk management for it or reboot and tap F3 to see if recovery will start just don't follow through with it.
     
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    Thanks very much! I see the recovery partition under disk management. I'll try accessing it using F3 later.
     
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    I guess you can tweak settings using the Sound Blaster Cinema 2 tool (it's there on the task bar).
     
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    Here are some results. Please let me know if they look reasonable. Thanks!

    If you need me to run some other tests or need info about something else, feel free to let me know.

    Tests carried out using NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M(2x) and Intel Core i7-4720HQ

    3DMark Fire Strike Score: 12514
    Graphics Score: 19019
    Physics Score: 9336
    Combined Score: 4097
    CPU Max. Core Temperatures: 83C, 88C, 87C, 85C
    GPU Max Temperatures: 68C, 79C

    3DMark Sky Diver Score: 28349
    Graphics Score: 58316
    Physics Score: 9017
    Combined Score: 17306
    CPU Max. Core Temperatures: 86C, 91C, 90C, 88C
    GPU Max Temperatures: 70C, 80C
     
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    Yesterday, I introduced two friends of a similar name to my GT80 Titan. :) They won't cling together for too long as the brothers will go into a desktop rig. But I think they belong to the same bloodline - both powerful and good looking. Wouldn't you agree?


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    Wow, that's crazy..........
     
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    May I know whether you are using the laptop monitor or an external monitor, and how did you overclock it? Thanks!
     
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    You set a custom resolution in the nvidia control panel.

    Nice titans ;) What monitor setup are you using with them?
     
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    You have 9216 cores in the first picture! :eek:
    Just read you can overclock the Titan X to 1300MHz. Let us know how far you made it. ;)
     
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    You are getting regular graphics score, but your physics (-6%) and combined (-16%) scores are low.
    Maybe you are running other processes during the benchmark.
     
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    Thanks for submitting your testing that helps all of us, when I had the 4720 I usually saw tests from 12700 to just under 13000 so I think something else must be running on your machine during testing too.

    One mistake I made was using AVAST virus scan and even when disabled it was causing 200+ point loss. Ever since I have ran AVG with no impact to scores when disabled.
     
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    Disabled some processes and re-ran Fire Strike. Hopefully these numbers look better.

    Wan't aware of this much fluctuation in numbers between runs!

    3DMark Fire Strike Score: 13216
    Graphics Score: 19086
    Physics Score: 9542
    Combined Score: 4843
    CPU Max. Core Temperatures: 80C, 84C, 85C, 83C
    GPU Max. Temperatures: 65C, 76C
     
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    On target!
     
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    BTW - do you also have a GT80 with an i7-4720? I haven't seen many people around with this config.
     
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    Hey, everyone. I'm still banking on buying a GT80 soon and I have the credit line at PayPal approved. To just confirm, I asked a sales rep. at XoticPC if the GT80's that they sell come with MSI's perk package (wrist rest, case, gold keys, etc.) and he told me that only the 047 (980M) and the 071 (x2 970M) come with all of the extra goodies. He also told me that no cases that they sell could hold the GT80 so there's that. :(

    I don't know if that's true or not but I thought I'd just give everyone a warning. Has anyone bought a GT80 from NewEgg? Does it come with the entire package? I was originally considering their open boxes but I doubt an open box would come with it.

    Where has everyone been customizing their laptops?
     
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    That's weird. I had asked XoticPC a while back and at that time only the 980m sli were out and they said goodies were included. It's not XoticPC that includes the goodies - but they come in the box from MSI. I got mine (see signature for config) from Newegg and I have all the goodies. I know GTVEVO ordered from Newegg as well - may be he can chime in with his experience.
     
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    I am not sure you mean back packs when you refer to cases. Anyways - I've been using the back pack that came with the laptop, and like others have said, it is OK - as it doesn't have padding at the bottom and extra cushion for the laptop in particular. Like someone pointed out, may be the Everki is a good choice - http://www.everki.com/products1/18-...iendly-laptop-backpack-fits-up-to-18-4-detail
     
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  49. GTVEVO

    GTVEVO Notebook Deity

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    I just looked at NewEgg on the open box 001 listed
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152707R&cm_re=gt80-_-34-152-707R-_-Product
    It shows at the bottom of the specs "Features Package Contents" Backpack included. I would say it would as it was probably a return on someone that denied to accepted delivery. The new 001 and 009 show the same so I would suspect they will come with all the goodies also. I was told the Gold Keys were a limited edition run but also remember there was a big port strike that I think several units were stuck in and probably now are in circulation.
     
  50. Midou

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    Ah! It may the port strike due to which I still got all the goodies :) - I'd have been extremely disappointed if I didn't.
     
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