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    *** The Official MSI GT75 Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 23, 2017.

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    Actually, you can be either anonymous or have them create a ticket, but they will always create a ticket even if you don't request for it (ticket#) but the name might just be john doe.
     
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    Yes, you can reference your support account on a call, and that will end up being a tangible reference for future use, just like starting out with an online ticket. :)

    Or you can tell them you don't wish to ask on the record, and you can call and ask without buying a laptop, or having yet registered your laptop. One of the advantages of using a phone call; to file a ticket online you need a registered product as a starting point.

    In the end it's all unnecessary preamble subterfuge, just register your new laptop, and ask the question online, it's much quicker and you won't be holding a phone while on "hold" ;)
     
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    I'm perfirming a memtest86 actually. How long I must wait? 1 pass is enough? Should I wait for 4 pass?
    0 errors at the moment.
     
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    Actually, running memtest86 should be for hours if at first you don't get an error, and you think you are experiencing random memory failures that are causing programmatic hiccups.

    24 hours is a good rule of thumb, but I've had situations where qualification tests are run in ovens for 72 hours, with a 24 hour cool down test, followed by a repeat of the thermal environment test again.

    If it's a RAM seating issue the error might not show up without moving the laptop, flexing it, or giving it a solid "whack" to generate an error or wiggling the memory in the socket to generate an error isn't optimally recommended.

    In desperate debugging cases where you can't find the failure - but know it has to be "there" - inducing a failure with kinetic actions can produce results.

    If you want to rule out the memory as the issue, time and environment changes that replicate the extremes of your use are helpful. :)
     
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    Oh really? That's long? I guess I'll have to be patient :)

    I don't think this is a RAM seatting error, I mean since the laptop is'nt working properly I did'nt move it from my desk for about a week. But I will wait and we'll see what happens.
     
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    Vibrations from shipping are what are usually the culprit for the mis-seated components.

    When unpacking hardware you'd ideally run through a physical and visual inspection.

    Potentially re-seating removable components that "don't look right", wiggling them and then finally removing and carefully and "with deliberation" re-seating them - for all socketed parts and socketed cables to make sure they are solidly in place.

    IDK how many times that has been the fix for random computer problems, but it's a surprisingly large number.

    It's called "waving the magic wand" over the component to fix it, at least that's how it appears to the uninitiated observer ;)
     
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    In my case I can't access to the RAM, they are on the other side of the MB, under the keyboard.
    By openning the laptop I only have access to 2 empty slots.
     
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    Is the AC adapter of the 75VR a 230W or 330W? How does it affect the overclocking headroom and overall performance?
     
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    Just by giving a light tap to the frame of the laptop, it will send vibrations through the laptop that might tip the RAM connection just enough to induce a failure.

    Picking up the laptop and flexing it - corner to corner may also induce it.

    You don't want to bring out the hammer, but a light tap graduating to a solid whack on the side of the bottom / frame should be enough to satisfy the possibility of a slightly out of firm socket RAM stick.

    It's just another item to test for, out of many, try it and if you don't get an error, move on.

    Let it run over night and see what you see in the error count.

    If you have no errors, then move on to another diagnosis possibility.

    Is the RAM stock RAM that came from MSI, or is it upgraded add-on memory. Given where it is installed it sounds like it's stock memory.
     
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    The power adapter capacity is listed in the models specification on MSI's product pages.

    The 1080 gets the 330w, the 1070 and below get the 230w, and the 1070 SLI gets dual 230w + a power combiner box to that is welded to the power tip end of both PSU's, you can *only* run with both 230w PSU's with the 1070 SLI.

    The GT83VR 1080 SLI has 2 x 330w PSU's, and the GT83VR 1070 SLI has 2 x 230w PSU's.
     
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    For the 75VR 1080 is 230W in XoticPC must be a typo.
     
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    It happens :)

    When copy / pasting info from one model to another it's easy to get distracted and forget / miss making changes to all the differences between models, especially when so many more use 230w than 330w.

    The GT75 1080 specifications on the MSI web site lists 330w
    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT75VR-7RF-Titan-Pro/Specification
     
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    I received my shiny new GT75VR today. The moment i started it i got a random 'cheep cheep cheep' noise like a high pitched cricket that continued randomly through into windows. Im not certain that it was coil whine it could have been a fan issue. I spoke to MSI and they said return it to the retailer. Very annoying.

    Do you all think its worth persevering or should i pick up a gt73vr with the same spec?
     
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    I've listed some issues that already exist with 75VR right out of the box.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt75vr-7rf-my-thoughts.808407/page-2#post-10591361
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.806253/page-19#post-10616995
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.806253/page-20#post-10617441
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.806253/page-20#post-10617541
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.806253/page-20#post-10618222
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussions-lounge.806253/page-23#post-10618855
     
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    Could be the buzzing sound from the chokes. Are you still experiencing the issue if you do a cold boot?
     
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    Thanks Kevin. I am experiencing the issue when i do a cold boot.
     
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    Can you confirm if the noise is coming from the system or AC adapter?
    It is normal but perhaps your hearing perception is great, however some people can get annoyed by it and some can just ignore it.
     
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    Its not coming from the AC adapter, that was the first thing i checked. It was loud enough to be heard over the fan noise. Im a bit deaf and wear hearing aids usually so if i can hear it without them its too loud. I got a second opinion from the wife who has perfect hearing and the MSI rep could hear it over the phone too.
     
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    If it's too loud then there's a problem with it, is it like a humming or grinding noise? It is more likely to be "grinding" noise than humming noise since it's loud.
     
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    Thanks for your help Kevin. Thats what i thought. Temps looked ok though with the small amount of testing i did with it. I spoke to another guy at MSI who said it sounds like an issue with a fan catching or touching. He said that he thought alot of failures were caused by dodgy handling during shipping.
    I am going to return it and get another one I think. Do you think its too early and maybe wait until the early issues are ironed out? I was impressed with the quality and the keyboard was excellent. The fan at max volume wasnt too loud either.
     
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    So sometimes, when the screws are tightened too hard on the fan housing which can cause the fan blades to rub against the housing. It is an easy fix if only if you are comfortable doing this fix yourself.
    Otherwise, just do exchange with your point of purchase. It is not a common issue but it does happen from time to time, from one model to another.
     
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    Still having my Network issue.

    1. err_connection_timed_out with the Killer WiFi (might be linked to driver issue)
    The issue is actually on the WIRED LAN connection, not the WIFI. The WIFI is working fine. Not really sure whats going on with this issue. I've just been using the WIFI, although I'd prefer my wired connection.

    Here is an example - Mind you, it does this with ANY browser. I also posted this at the Netgear forums for my C3700-100NAS, since that could likely be at fault, too. I am actually thinking the laptop is NOT the issue.

    error.png


    Aside from this 1 issue, laptop is working great. I have not had any rebooting issues.
     
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    You might had done this already, but did you update the Killer driver package to the latest version?
     
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    Hi Kevin I updated everything as soon i switched it on. I also disabled c states to see if that made a difference. I might open up and take a look at the fan housing.
    Do you think its still to early to pick one up with all the early issues or should i exchange for the older model?
     
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    So I did'nt get a single reboot in 24h and now I just got 1. The funny part is the laptop experienced the very first issue I had: booting with a black screen but nothing more right after rebooting.
    I did what I did the first time: POWER ON, POWER OFF 3 times on a row. Not sure if this is how you refresh your BIOS but that's the only way I found to go into a boot cycling. I tried everything
    Falkentyne told me but it did'nt worked.
     
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    I uninstalled XTU and that messed up my boost. I was stuck at 3.4ghz and never saw 3.9 even though it said on CPU-Z 3.9 boost. Did not see a reboot yet in the span of 2-3 days that XTU was uninstalled. Cinebench scored a 707 at 3.4ghz and did not go to 3.9ghz boost clock at all. I was at 790+ previously with the stock boost.

    I’ve reinstalled XTU and OCed to 4.2 as per Phoenix’s GT73VR thread. Cinebench scores 842 at 4.2ghz. No weird reboots yet. Will continue to monitor. Might actually be a problem with the XTU and Windows.

    I also noticed after updating to the lastest Windows Fall Creators ? I think that’s what it’s called, messed up my Bitdefender and didn’t want to turn on the firewall. Fixed the problem after reinstalling Bitdefender.



    SSE button on the MSI is working as long as you don’t change the names or create any new profiles. Just edit the existing profiles.

    I also wanted to mention, previously the automatic reboots affected my computer during sleep. When I flipped opened the lid the next day, I could tell that it had rebooted. With the reinstall of XTU and the new Windows Fall Creators edition, I haven’t had the auto reboot/ crash yet. Reopening the lid, woke my computer up and resumed its previous state instead of a very obvious reboot.


    Will continue to monitor to see how a reinstalled XTU and the latest Windows Fall Creator’s edition fixes the crash or automatic reboots during gaming and sleep.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Too low for 4.2Ghz, probably too many crapware running in the background. I'm curious about the temp.
     
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    4.2 ghz should score between 909-939.
     
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    And 842cb ain’t even from 3.9GHz :oops:
     
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    @Phoenix, finally we have some in-depth review of the GT75VR. You can add this one in your main post bruh!

     
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    Hi, I made i clean install of Windows 10, no reboot till now but it's way too soon to be sure.What I'm sure about is that the clean install fixed a FPS issue on PlayerUnknown's Battleground. Maybe too many crapware I don't know but it runs a lot better now.
    When I boot my laptop a strange thing occurs, I press the POWER ON button, it immediatly shut down and reboot normally right after. I had this issue on my GT73VR, I fixed it by unninstalling XTU but since I did'nt reinstalled XTU.... It's not the first time it happens but I thought it was because all thoses reboots.
    I'll put a video of another issue since I've re-installed a clean W10. Starting to think it's an hardware issue... or maybe a faulty BIOS or a bad BIOS setting? Is that possible?


    EDIT: So the laptop just rebooted... Strange because in advanced settings, i've unchecked "automatically reastart" and no bump file are created when reboots occurs, for BSOD yes but not for my rebooting issue. So it may be BIOS or faulty battery?

     
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    Well, I was gaming on this pretty hard last night in Tom Clancy's The Division. I ran it for about 5 hours and it ran flawless - no reboots, no slowdowns, etc. It does get a bit loud under full load, but its about as bad as my GT80 was.

    I feel like this was a worthwhile upgrade over my old system - I'm satisfied. I wish I could figure out that oddball network issue, but I have a feeling that is my router or ISP.
     
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    "I have confirmed, GT75VR LCD screen is not HDR. GT75VR is only able to OUTPUT HDR to another HDR-Ready device." a response from one of the MSI rep.

    MSI is offering the GT75VR in their trade in program but with a conditions:

    - 1 year warranty only
    - No longer qualified for the 2nd gen. GPU upgrade
     
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    That's nutz, who would give up a Volta upgrade down the road for a GT75 mechanical keyboard vs getting a GT73 with the same performance + Volta upgrade later??

    I don't think anything except a Volta laptop upgrade right now would make me give up that future Volta laptop upgrade... :confused: :p :eek: :rolleyes: o_O
     
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    So I was sort of right as I could not figure out how to turn th HDR on.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Good news - haven't had a reboot/ crash in a week after reinstalling XTU and the latest Windows Fall Creator's edition.

    Yes i have a lot of crapware as it is stock and i have a lot of background tasks. I intend to run a clean windows installation with the new thermal pads that are on the way. We should see better improvements with that.
     
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    Curious to see what happens with my situation, since they seem to have added additional stipulations after I already I already traded my GT80 for a GT75. I am hoping it will be a non-issue should I decide to upgrade to Volta or need to use my 2 year warranty.
     
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    I'd get "it in writing" from Ming right now, before he forgets, or leaves - then all who have a GT75 have 1 year warranty and no Volta... ask nicely to confirm your understanding, unless you already have such from Ming :)
     
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    I have 2 year warranty in writing from him. I have nothing stating I am not eligible for any future upgrades from MSI, nor is my name signed to anything stating I forfeit my right to an upgrade. I am not going to worry about it at this time. I doubt I will want to upgrade, so this is a non-issue for me, especially at this point.
     
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    Hi guys,

    Ordered and received GT75VR from GentechPC last week.

    Haven't had a chance to test much, but so far so good, no problems in operations at all. No BSODs, WiFi problems etc that others have reported.
    Temps (with liquid metal) are okay'ish. CPU reaches 82C under gaming load and GPU hovers around 79-80C.
    Somehow I was expecting a little less.

    Two questions:

    1. Is there a timeout setting for RGB-LEDs? Like in Alienware I could set them to turn off after X minutes of inactivity.
    2. How can I setup Dragon Center to dynamically adjust CPU core clock multipliers? Currently in Turbo mode I've set clocks to 4.2Ghz and they stay at 4.2GHz even at idle, requiring more voltage (1.4V). Temperature stays higher too. I want clocks to decrease to ~800Mhz when idle and increase appropriately depending on activity. Alienware did this on its own.
     
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    use Cooler boost at 100% and then report the CPU temps. Also report what you are using to load the CPU, games, stress tests, AVX or non AVX/FMA3 loads, etc, and if possible, CPU speed and vcore (HWinfo64 screenshot will work). Please get rid of and uninstall Dragon Center.
    I recommend HIGHLY using Throttlestop 8.48. Do not use TS and Intel XTU at the same time.

    Are you using static voltage or adaptive voltage in the Bios? Is VCore set manually? (e.g. 1200mv?)

    And your vcore should NOT be 1.4v, period. Under any circumstances.
    Please post a HWinfo64 screenshot of the VID shown. Thank you :)
     
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    Could someone be so kind as to teach me how to do a clean install of Win10 with one of Phoenix's clean Win10 ROM on my Raid0 SSDs?

    I've never done a reformat on a RAID0 drive and I don't want to mess up any settings, also because I can't see my RAID0 SSDs in the Win10 installation partition selection thing.

    Thank you.

    I understand you have to enable Legacy boot and something else to be able to boot into something to enable you to format or something along those lines. Hehehe.

    Also... to RAID0 or not to RAID0?
     
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    @Phoenix video tutorial
     
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    Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! I feel dumb now.


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    hi guys

    Please anybody share their professionally calibrated MSI True Color profile.
    My screen looks worst when am use their default profile.
     
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    Hi,

    My apologies I was busy with new job so today checked temps with your recommendations from Owner's Lounge.

    Here they are:

    With cooler boost: (60mins of Prime95 and Furmark)
    CPU: 65C (stock voltage)
    GPU: 71C

    Without cooler boost: (60mins of Prime95 and Furmark)
    CPU: 82C (stock voltage)
    GPU: 85C (until fans kick in and temp drops to 78, then it starts rising again, goes up 85, fans kick in, drop to 78.... so on).

    What are your observations?
    You're right Vcore is around 1.2v stock (at 41x multiplier on all cores)

    I'm now experimenting with ThrottleStop (uninstalled Dragon Center etc.) and so far achieved a stable system with -100mv undervolt. Haven't stressed it with Prime95 though.
    Normal usage seems good!
     

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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've never liked the MSI / Asus "True Color" app, and always uninstall it and find a custom profile to install - eventually someone lists a custom ICC profile they did with their screen - or I borrow a Calibration tool from the Library to make my own.

    I used to unpack the True Color package to extract the icc profile and use Windows to install directly - often that alone is good, it's the other processing that True Color adds that screws up the color.

    I actually usually like the raw screen colors without True Color installed, but I do prefer a properly tuned display without True Color processing.
     
  48. marrty

    marrty Notebook Enthusiast

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    Helo Guys !!

    I ran into serious problem, I dont know what caused this because am new to Msi EcoSystem.In out of the box my msi laptop allow me to overclock Cpu upto 4.2ghz and Gpu upto Core clockoffset-200Mhz/Vram clockoffset-350Mhz.

    After I clean format the system and installed the windows 10 pro and installed the dragon center and every other necessary utility and drivers that mentioned in MSI support site after that my dragon doesn't allow my Cpu to overclock above Cpu- 4.1 Ghz and my Gpu above Core clockoffset-150Mhz/Vram clockoffset-250Mhz


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    anybody please give any solution to this problem.
     
  49. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    The new dragon center capped it at 4.1 ghz.
    Use the Bios and overclock manually instead. Uninstall dragon center and do it manually.
     
  50. marrty

    marrty Notebook Enthusiast

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    so its not an system problem,thank god.....Is there any option get an old dragon center...and suggest any post that related MSI bios overclocking...!!!
     
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