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Is the 4K screen an IPS panel?

How does the keyboard compare to the MX Cherry Brown in Titan GT80 SLI?

I realize there is 3mm versus 4mm of key travel.

 

Yes, the 4K panels are IPS.

If I'm honest I actually lean a little towards the GT75's keyboard. Might just be me. Neither really feels like my external, but while the GT80 resembles that more, I slightly preferred the typing experience on the 75.

 

@Phoenix I'm ready for a system tweaking when you have the time.

 

IPS-like which is actually AHVA panel.
Yet another proprietary "IPS-like" panel type that offers similar performance to PLS. Developed by AUO, AHVA is short for Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle. The acronym can be slightly confusing as AHVA technology will sometimes be mixed up with Vertical Alignment (VA, see below) even though it makes use of In-Plane Switching (IPS).

Reference:
https://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel

 

Hi everyone does anyone know if the gt75 in my signature can support a 15mm 2.5 inch drive or is it 7mm maximum height? It finally shipped today I have a 4tb 15mm seagate 2.5 inch hdd that is in my hdd dock just curious if it will fit in the 2.5 inch bay once it arrives in a few days any thoughts are welcomed. I'm also curious to know what is the maximum stable overclock on all 6 cores for this system? Note hidevolution repasted cpu and gpu upgraded the thermal pads and performed the bottom panel ventilation mod

Thanks in advance

 

15mm is not supported.

 

Game question to you guys maybe one of you have some good idea after working with a lot of workarounds which I found with Google.
Since the last update of pubg I can't play it when I start the game I got an a pubg process crashed error not more, no error code nothing. When I try to submit the error log it stop the submit step after 2min.
First thought were wlan connection but same with lan connection.
Drivers are up to date, os is up to date. Remove and install pubg 5 times.
Workarounds from Google and or YouTube videos are without success.

 

I need your assistance!
I might go for MSI GT75 8RG instead of buying an Asus again. My questions:

There is a big price difference between 8850 and 8950 CPU. Is it ok to get 8850 and shall I expect lower temperatures?

I always preferred Asus because of a low noise development. How is it at MSI GT75? Can I use it as dead silent during browsing, photoshoping, etc?

What about during the load? reviews are not promising. I play old games as well such as Age of Empires III, can I play it reasonably silent? Or what about new games? Can I keep the fan noise as normal levels and still get good temperatures?

as an extra information, I generally deactivate AA and limit my fps as much as screen MHZ allows. These things help me to keep my laptop silent.

 

No need to post the same question in multiple threads.

 

I erased the other one if you haven't realized. I thought this is the correct place than the other topic.

 

I have an old Logitech Z680 5.1 surround speaker system. It has the 1/8" 6ch direct ports and also optical/coax inputs. Is there a way I can use this with my Titan? Do I need an external DAC or something?

 

On the GT73VR, it is "Possible" to use 5.1 surround sound, but it is VERY problematic to make it working, and half the time you get no rear channel sound at all.
the other half of the time, you get rear channel sound but the volume is very low and the volume controls do NOT function at all. And the rear channel sound was controlled by a device in "RECORDING DEVICES" (in windows sound properties), funny enough, which makes no sense.

Whether this was fixed or improved or not on newer drivers, I have absolutely no idea, but I got sick of testing and constantly installing drivers (about a year ago) trying to get 5.1 to work, so I gave up and just used headphones with 5.1 mode (you can use Nahimic's virtualization, or you use the Sennheisers GSX-1000, which I got a few years ago for $99 due to a pricing error).

 

Seems like a step above the panel used in GT80 SLI.

 

Guys is it ok if i use eset internet security instead of nod 32

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i use eset smart security and don't have any issues so yes you can use it.

 

finally only deleting the game and data and folders even registry solve the issue.

 

I have a question about the core voltage. I have the GT75 8RF with 8850H and when I got the laptop I was told to set the core voltage to 1.250v in the bios (as well as AC/DC Loadline to 1). is this voltage setting ok for my cpu? what is the default value, anyone knows? to that as you can see from the screenshot I undervolted -0.120v, although I don't really see any difference in temp.

 

The default value is the CPU VID without any boosting or alteration or offsets, at the full multiplier range, starting at 800 mhz and going up to the maximum preset turbo 1 core multiplier.
The ONLY way to know the DEFAULT VID is to do the following:

1) Set the CPU to the maximum ONE CORE MULTIPLIER (you can set all cores to this value. This may not be possible on a H series CPU however, only on a "HK" or K (desktop LGA) series CPU. If the maximum 1 core multiplier cannot be set directly, go to the 4 or 6 core multipliers and then go down 100 mhz at a time.

2) use ADAPTIVE VOLTAGE. Do NOT use static /override. Use adaptive voltage only. Do NOT use ANY offsets.

3) set IA AC DC loadline to 1 and 1, to prevent the VID from boosting or dropping at load or at idle. The VID shown should fluctuate by about 30mv. This is caused by AVX instructions being used by the operating system. The "lower" VID will be the default VID. You can then drop the multiplier by 1 each time and watch the VID drop. The VID should drop slowly at every single multiplier step. That is your "default" voltage for that "Mhz" speed step.

The VID will stop scaling once you reach the highest turbo multiplier.

Monitor the VID in Throttlestop 8.60 or HWinfo64, NOT in Intel XTU.
You can use throttlestop 8.60 to set the multiplier manually also and watch the VID change in real time.

 

I already have AC/DC Loadline set to 1 in the bios. if I will change from static to adaptive and remove the 1.250v core voltage value, will I not be able to undervolt at all, without touching the multipliers? this is really what I want to do. at the current state I am undervolting from the 1.250v point. this is the voltage at the moment:

 

Hi everyone,

My system arrives on friday but in preparation for its arrival i have a few questions Thanks to the help and dedication of @Donald@HIDevolution we were able to get a stable overclock on all 6 cores. I'm wondering what the maximum stable overclock my system can handle under heavy loads would be 4.8 ghz would be great Also would a cooling pad fan or vacuum be recommended to increase cooling?I'm also curious what are everyones thoughts on unlocking my system's BIOS Any feedback thoughts or input of any kind is welcomed Additionally i've provided my system specs in detail to help provide as much information as possible.

System specs
Custom Built MSI GT75 8RG TITAN-094 17.3" w/ G-Sync nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
Laser Engraving Combo Package - LCD Cover + Palm Rest + "Property Of:" on Bottom
Game Bundle
GT Battlepack, Lucky Edge of the Cup, Gaming Mousepad, Gaming Headset, Gaming Sticker
LCD Panel
17.3" FHD (1920*1080), 120Hz 3ms Wideview 94%NTSC Color Anti-Glare w/ G-Sync Technology
Display Calibration
Yes, display professionally calibrated w/ profile saved to USB drive
Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
Yes, quality check and give me a panel with minimal backlight bleed.
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 w/ 8GB GDDR5X
Processor
Intel® 8th Generation Coffee Lake Core™ i9-8950HK 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.9 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.8 GHz), 12MB Smart Cache Overclocked to 5.0 GHz
Thermal Interface Materials
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces – BEST PERFORMANCE
Bottom Service Panel Ventilation Mod
Yes, modify the bottom panel
Memory
HIDevolution Approved Premium 32GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 16GB)
M.2 PCIe RAID Options
RAID 0 (Striping - Best Performance) - MSI Super RAID 4
M.2 PCIe / SATA SSD RAID Configurations
Samsung 970 EVO 2TB (2 x 1TB) M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write
M.2 PCIe Slot 3
None
2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
External Optical Drive
External Bluray read/write DVDRWdrive
Wireless Cards
Killer™ Wireless-AC N1550 802.11 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows 10 including 32GB Clean Install Flash Drive
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
2x 230W AC Power Adapter + 1x Converter Box (supports 100-240V)
Internal Battery
Internal 8 cell (75Wh) battery
Audio
Dynaudio Tech Speakers 3W *2 + Subwoofer 5W *1
Steelseries Keyboard
SteelSeries per-Key RGB Mechanical KB with Anti-Ghost key
Warranty and Service
1 Year MSI +Limited Global Warranty w/ 1 Year USA Accidental Damage "No Oops" Protection (Registration within 30 days of Ship Date Required) + LIFETIME Technical Support
Global Warranty
None
MSI Front Lid Logo Color
Violet / Dark Purple

Total Price $5,271 USD
Order Date: June 19, 2018
Shipping Date: June 30, 2018

Thank You in advance for your guidance.

 

BGA chips won’t let you run 4.8GHz stable all 6 cores in heavy loads. Won’t happen! @Phoenix @Falkentyne @Mr. Fox

Edit. But a mod U3 notebook cooler will probably help a bit on max temp.

 

4.8 ghz on 8950HK is possible on VERY good sample BGA chips, if IA AC DC loadline is set to 1, but processor will reach 100C under full 6 cores 12 threads load in full sustained loads in cinebench (repeated runs), realbench or other max load applications, even with liquid metal thermal paste and maximum fan speed, and all it takes for 100C is 1.3v. You can still game on it however as long as 12 max load threads are not active at the same time. A chess engine running 6c/12t is guaranteed 100C at 4.8 ghz and 1.3v with the pathetic tiny CPU heatsink. And if you need more than 1.3v to avoid WHEA correctable errors or BSOD (uncorrectable errors), well..good luck with that.

 

@Falkentyne
Well there is a 5.1 and 7.1 option in the Realtek audio setup screen but I can always install the Razor Surround as it has gotten good reviews for virtual surround sound. As for the physical connection, I was thinking about getting this:
https://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digit...pID=51OckVyi8YL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

I use the Mini DP for my X34P and the HDMI port for a 22" second monitor off to the side. I should be able to split the "virtual surround" off of the HDMI cable and just pass the video to the monitor. I can then use an optical cable to connect the SPDIF port on my Logitech speaker system. Does this seem viable to you?

EDIT: Or just go with this solution:
https://us.creative.com/p/sound-cards/sound-blaster-omni-surround-5-1

 

Mind you. +-65C with less clocks in 3.5 sec short Wprime 32M bench (+-4.6GHz). Let @Phoenix run 4.8GHz but in wprime 1024M. Then you clearly see what I mean.

 

Hey @Phoenix , how many GHz you run in 6 cores with your machine?

 

So when we are talking about stability under heavy loads 4.6 is the most we can hope for correct?

Thanks,

bionicfreeze

 

The chips should be CAPABLE of 4.6-4.8 full load (without AVX torture tests), if you feed enough voltage into them, set IA AC DC loadine to "1" in the unlocked Bios, and have liquid metal cooling, but temps are what are going to be holding you back, not the CPU crashing itself.

A decent sample 7820HK on LM can take 4.8 ghz at 1.31v (if IA AC DC is set to 1) and you can keep the temps below 90C with LM. Do this with a 6 core 8950HK and you will be at 100C in no time. The puny CPU heatsink+1 radiator + 1 shared heatpipe going to a second "half" radiator isn't enough to cool two extra cores at full load. I don't have this laptop. I can no longer answer how it will perform.

 

For some strange reason, TDC current limit set to 0 doesn't stick in the BIOS. TDC is set to disabled and stays that way but everytime I change the value 640 to 0 and save, it reverts back to 640. I already tried resetting the BIOS to defaults but the change doesn't stick. any idea why? Dragon Center is not installed.

 

Bug in the Bios. If you open that field up in AMIBCP 5.02, there is a ghost option for TDC which seems to be a "blank" bug. As long as it's disabled putting a value there will do nothing. You can test that by setting it to something absurd like 200 and seeing if it gets ignored.

 

Thanks, yes it is disabled in the bios, good to know.

 

Guys something horrible happened to me... I updated scm, that went well... then I updated intel me drivers and nvidia drivers and when I rebooted: automatic repair... so I am like wtf? That did not work, so I rebooted, nothing. Checked settings in bios, all good... I went ahead and tried a restore point: unspecified error. Well **** me for not having a backup. Tried sfc check from restore environment, it could not be completed. The laptop is now trying to restore windows 10 entirely with keeping my files, and God I hope it succeeds cause I can't lose the files. Wtf happened and how do I prevent that in the future aside from making weekly backups? (I swear I just learned). And if the restore does not work... how do I recover my files???

 

You need to do a full repair install.
I don't know if you have a windows 10 enterprise key (I bought mine for $10 way back, from that one ebay seller that some people weren't sure about but others verified he was good), but if you have any product keys, you can get the ISO's here.

https://www.itechtics.com/windows-1...irect-download-links-languages/#English_USA-2

This was the fall creator's update.
Make sure you get the proper one for your language.

You also need to convert the ESD File to an ISO file like so:
https://www.itechtics.com/convert-esd-to-iso-easily-using-dism-gui/

The last time I checked, the ENTERPRISE ESD file also had the "pro" version embedded in it, so just download Enterprise and install it as a repair upgrade (choose Pro or Enterprise).
As long as you are not using "home", you should at least be activated. Or just choose the pro version.

 

My laptop has the home version. Oh well it is already trying to restore now. I hope it works. No going back now. I hate nvidia seriously >.>
*by restore I mean reset.

 

Check your PM.

 

update: I'm in windows and all my files are there too. I cannot imagine what the nvidia installer did that broke the windows to this extent. I am horrified. Thank god for windows reset with option to keep files.
Thank you Falkentyne ^^ now eh... is there a way to restore my installed games without reinstalling? They are all in windows.old but will not work without the registry files obviously - is there a way or do I have to redownload several GB of data over night?
Also.... can I in any way restore opened firefox tabs? I had about 10 tabs up and I don't remember anymore exactly which they were... foxie was set to remember and reopen them for me

 

"windows.old" should be the windows partition only. Your games should not be there.
@Papusan will have to help with that or someone else. Basic rule of thumb is, do not install STEAM or other games to the same partition as windows, or the same disk drive. Or at the very minimum, keep it in a separate folder far away from program files...e.g. C:\Games.

Save game data is usually in c:\users\username\appdata (or documents) under various folders. This can usually be directly accessed. I don't know how if its somehow compressed into a .old section.

 

the windows.old seems to have almost everything that was removed during the reset, including entire program files folders with everything that was in them (as far as I can tell). That's why I have my hopes up to restoring some of it! But if you don't know how to do it it's okay I will try to google a bit and then give up and go on with my life... I just have to redo the bios changes now since I restored bios defaults along the way.

 

If it's STEAM, you just copy the ENTIRE "steamapps" folder to your "new" steam folder, with only "steam.exe" in that folder and then run steam.exe. That will cause all games to get updated, but some may need to be run or have cache verified. Had to deal with that before. Thats also the official steam instructions for moving your entire steam game folder to a "new" hard drive.

In some cases, for steam, if the 'drive' path of the steam folder changes (e.g. transferred to a new computer rather than just reinstalled), the folder URL may need to be changed in the steam properties (had a problem with Left 4 dead pointing to C:\games\steam rather than d:\games\steam even after verifying cache...annoying).

For other games, SOME games will REQUIRE reinstallation. Some will run fine as is (mostly much older games. e.g. Dungeon Siege and the old baldur's gate games run fine directly).
Once the game is installed, find where the save folder is (users/username/my documets/mygames, or appdata/local, or roaming) and copy the entire savegame folder to the proper new folder in windows.

 

Nvm I got it... just had to copy all mozilla files from appdata and my tabs are back. Time to reinstall some games and forget this nightmare experience.

 

@Falkentyne LOL help... it went back to automatic repair >.> what and whyyyyy
Please I don't know what is happening now Please save me please oh god.

 

Ok I need some serious help... updated intel me drivers and nvidia drivers -> after reboot it went into automatic repairs. That failed. Restore point not working. SFC check will not complete. CMOS reset etc not working. Resetting windows makes it boot up but if I reboot I am back to automatic repairs (square 1). What now?
Safe mode does not work either.

 

I can't seem to find anything that could help online... Guess my best shot is to reset windows again then backup all my files and contact MSI tomorrow. They need to replace a fan too anyway.... sigh. If you have any ideas please help.

 

Just download the Enterprise ISO from the link i gave you.
Remember to follow BOTH links to convert the ESD to an ISO.
Then you can use any DVD/CD burning program to install the ISO to a DVD Drive, OR you can use "RUFUS" to install it to a flash drive.
Rufus is a very useful program.
I suggest getting Rufus.
https://rufus.akeo.ie/

Install the enterprise version. Just install it as a repair upgrade. See if that works for you.
If that does NOT work, if you have two hard drives, move your games folder to the new drive and do a clean install.

Tell me if that works. At the very worst, you will be back up in windows.

 

@Falkentyne I found out the problem. It was because of driver signature and it is indeed nvidia (hate hate hate haaaaate that company). It is caused by the nvpciflt.sys component (interestingly windows reset did not help it) I only found out after disabling automatic repair in cmd, then I had to go to startup options and disable forced signature checks (or whatever it's called, option 7). It booted normally after. All the reseting was not necessery if I knew this 2 hours ago. Sigh. Now to find a way to fix that nshittia component.
Time for safe mode and DDU. Hope that fixes it. If I can even enter safe mode haha
EDIT: can't enter safe mode. GG nvidia. Trying it in normal mode >.>

UPDATE: ddu did the work even in normal mode. I successfully rebooted after installing 391.48. Guess windows reset kept a part of the faulty driver intact. I will not mess with new drivers anymore and well... I learned some more about tech today. Thank you MSI for educating me every day. I have the worst luck in the world ^^ My next setup will be a damn ryzen PC with some nice amd gpu. **** this.

 

just a question but why don't you use the possibility to change the path for the folders in your user account?
I use this function since the early days of windows 7 and never had any issues.

i have my Raid 0 on c with OS and some Games which i play most of the time.
then i have a Sasmung 860 1TB for my other Games i don't play very often.
then there is a crucial MX300 1TB where i have my user folders, my OneDrive and some more space for useless things like movies which i bought from amazon or from MS.
For the really important data i have an NAS and an external HDD with an Backup from the NAS.
One 2TB HDD only for my Games and for an OS Backup.

 

Laptop is back up, all is good... the program files backup got deleted from windows.old somewhere among all the reboots >.> no other option than to reinstall over 100 GB of games now (guess it was too big in the first place, hence getting deleted at some point). Anyway thank you for the support, it kept me somewhat sane while googling like a maniac for solutions. On the plus side: my knowledge increased again! The day I open my own

I have 2x256 SSD in raid... making my entire C drive ^^ I keep it on factory settings and this is how it came. As for the rest.... I have yet to remove the 1TB hdd which I would never use for games and replace it with my beloved 850 EVO adding another 500GB of useful space (I have literally nothing on the hdd). So if my raid/one of the ssds fails I will be damned. I just can't touch the insides of my laptop as I am terribly static and the bf has no mood for it since he broke the damn plastic clips last time And I have this fear that if I remove the SSD's for a little while it will corrupt my raid is that possible though?
I will just abuse the hdd for whole-system backups I guess for now so I can at least restore properly next time.

 

i really would like to help you but traveling is more then 800km and shipping is a little to expensive i would say.
mark your ssds with port number or some other sign then you can remove it for a long while and connect it again on the correct port.
i use S1 and S2 on my SSDs and on the SSD (damn it i forget the word...) bracket/holder... the thing where you fix it with the screws..

 

So as long as I put them in the correct places where they came from my raid & OS will be safe? :x I guess better to make a backup anyway.
Thank you though, I totally do plan to put in my spare 2.5 inch ssd so I have more storage and maybe in the future get another m2 ssd as well since there is a spare slot for one. I admit I mainly don't use the hdd since I plan to swap it out and toss it into a box of spare parts. Total laziness. It's all my fault

 

yes

 

Guys i need help
Today i was rendering an FHD video on 60fps on after effects on my gt 75 8RG and the speed i was getting wasnt really satisfactory was running it on turbo mode
With after effects set to high priority in task manager

Please help me guys if ull can

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