*** The Official MSI GT75 Owners and Discussions Lounge ***

succesfully change from AUO 4K to CMN1747....
Still want an WQHD display...

 

For those who want to disable all power limit throttling permanently and access all the hidden bios menus, you can do this AT YOUR OWN RISK. I take NO responsibility if you get a doorstop after doing this.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-clear-cmos-and-prevent-common-issues.812372/

 

Sigh so I just realized my bf broke a clip in front and now I have an unsightly gap... that's why impatient people should not take these things apart. He was pretty rough with it but swore that nothing broke. I just fished it out of the laptop (read flipped it and it fell out). >.> pretty upset about it.

 

like in the good old days.. burn him for this sacrilege

 

All the more of an excuse to sell the laptop and build a pc... I mean it performs but eh... I just want something that is easy to maintain and get spare parts for. ><

 

normally the gt series from msi are very good to maintain never had any kind of issues and i dismantle my GT73 and my GT75VR very often. and i mean dismantle till i have every part of it in front of me.

 

I am a girl which makes it difficult all on its own no matter what it is plus my hands shake and sweat and I am static (yes it's that bad, seriously). And the bf is rough with things as he's a car mechanic. Handy but used to treating things rough... a delicate laptop cannot handle that. So I just took pics and will put it up. Does not guarantee that it gets sold at all but I can try.
There is nothing wrong with it aside from small fan noise (from day 1) and obviously 1 broken plastic clip so I figured: better sell it before more stuff breaks.

 

sorry my english skills are good but did you really wrote that it makes it difficult because you are a girl? i hope i missunderstood this nonsense....

 

She said her hands shake and she has a static problem. But yes she also said "its difficult because she's a girl." :/ She shouldn't say that. Girls can be every bit as good as men in most things (besides weighlifting).

 

Yeah I said I was a girl which made it difficult As in because I am a girl my dad never allowed me to mess with electronics or anything and since we did not have internet I just never taught myself either. Now I have no common sense, it does not make sense to me how most things are put together and I get extremely nervous manipulating anything fragile. I even messed up screws trying to put my nightstand together (well thank god it was just 1 that I messed up before I gave up and had the bf do it). I guess you get the point. It's not because I am a girl but because others have treated me like one that I can't do this on my own now. I never even thought for the first few years that one could take a laptop apart by themselves. Total misinformation, came a long way since then. Does not make me any less nervous sadly.
PS. I put the laptop up for sale. Not hoping too much as people with this money to spend will probably rather buy new.

 

Hey, im still here even with briken plastics

 

You will still not like my asking price ^^ At least the gpu does not reach 90 anymore and there are no more loose heatsink screws (thank you chinese msi employee for messing that up).

 

Why are you selling your taptop if you just got it?

 

Because now it should still be worth something. I am happy with the performance but my preferences changed since I bought the gt72vr. I only got the gt75 as an exchange for that one since I was not offered money back but actually I was pretty set on building a pc with a 1080. I sit here now with an external 27 inch screen and a full mechanical keyboard with brown switches and trust titan 2.1 speaker set and honestly I use the laptop as a mini pc.... I just don't really see the point in having a laptop anymore. I was without the previous laptop for 3 months while it traveled across Poland etc and just somewhat got used to the idea of not having it...? If that makes sense. Yeah performance is good but a pc will be cheaper especially since I have the peripherals already (and ssd and couple hdds) and will also be a whole lot more quiet and serviceable. When I realized the little plastic clip the bf broke on the bottom cover results in about 100 euro spare part requirement if I don't want a tiny gap in front.... It was the last drop. Just the idea of it breaking when warranty ends sends chills down my spine.
PS. you may be rich but I saved up for more than 7 years to buy this thing as a student and could finally afford it when I sold the appartment I had in the Czech republic. Now I live with my bf in the Netherlands in rented appartment which is super old and crappy, I drive a focus from 2004 which is rusty as hell and cost me 2000 euro 2 years ago and work at mcdonalds for minimum salary while trying to study psychology at uni. Tough life. Paying for laptop repair in the future is unimaginable for me, I just made an uneducated decision getting it.

 

I am broke as hell, I bought my laptop through donations and the rest was a loan so dont start with that you live in Dubai youre rich BS I'm sick of hearing that

 

People must really like you to allow you to get a 10k laptop sorry didn't think that was possible. I just saw your videos with the fancy cars and bird poo so I figured you were rich. And... didn't you say you lived in a villa? What was I supposed to think? Guess you have a little different standards than me.
PS: I am not even eligible for loans so you are still doing a lot better.

 

Thanks for sharing that...very nice!

 

My Gosh you are one envious person, no wonder why you're in such a misery

 

I am not envious. Wtf? Why would you think that? It's a fact I am not eligible for loans and that statement was supposed to be funny. Guess we don't share the same sense of humor. I have friends who are rich and obviously I think they were lucky to have had parents who paid electricity when they were little, paid for their food and let them grow into amazing adults. But I am not envious, I think I am a lot stronger than most of them anyway and I am happy with little. I love my damn focus for example and would not switch, the thing even has cruise control, it's the best car in the world imo! It just seems to me that you are the one looking down on me. You know nothing about me just as I know nothing about you so lets leave it.
I just expected an expensive gaming laptop to last at least 6 years without the need to fix it, the first one was in 3 times within a year and then got exchanged. I just did not calculate in possible risks of it breaking so quick. That is why I want to sell it within the next few months - there is not really a market for these laptops here so it might not even sell. I will just have to work a lot harder to make money for a pc without selling it then.

 

@heliada @Phoenix

Please stop. This conversation has deteriorated...it is not needed here.

 

Bios unlock code removed for now.

Phoenix dont ever in your life insult an innocent young woman. NEVER AGAIN. EVER. EVER. EVER.

 

If you can live with that decision i would recommend to hold the GT75 as long as you can.
don't know the market in the netherlands ( ? ) but in germany people are not willing (some yes but most of them no) to pay the time worth of your hardware.
when i try to sell my GT73VR 6RE Titan the people expected that i gave them a price after 6 Month which was under 1500€. in germany i would say there is no market for people like me or you or others who are interessted in beasts like the GT75.

 

Yeah no way I'd sell a less than month old laptop so low. Haha it's funny. Did you manage to sell it in the end? If I don't I'll just keep it. I think laptops are more expensive here even new. It performs and well if it breaks 3 years down the road I'll probably try to sell it for parts really cheap to get sth back and just bite the loss.

 

I sold it to a friend for 1900€ and we were both happy with this decision.

 

Hello, my Asus ROG G751 max specification just died, now I am buying new laptop with more high hardware. I have these 3 options can you help me with decision.

The moast cheaper, but I had to add SSD drive because its without it:
https://www.easynotebooks.de/Notebo...z-i7-7700HQ-16GB-RAM-2TB-HDD-GTX-1080-FreeDOS

Then for little more budget, with GTX 1070:
https://www.easynotebooks.de/Notebo...s-i7-8850H-16GB-256GB-SSD-1TB-HDD-GTX1070-W10

And the last one that is way up of budget
https://www.easynotebooks.de/Notebo...7-7820HK-32GB-1TB-HDD-512GB-SSD-GTX1080-Win10

Now is last one worth of extra 400€ because of the GTX1080, more RAM, and bigger SSD.

Computer will be replacement for my Asus which was replacement for my desktop PC. I sometimes play games like BF4, FarCry5. How difficult is to upgrade RAM in future to replace all RAM sticks with new ones, or to add more RAM to free slots. But it must be powerfull like my Asus.
How is cooling on this laptops, because my Asus died because he overheated and damaged display connector and cant be repaired.

please for advice

 

I think I would never buy the first one with the locked cpu. It will not be enough especially if you plan to keep the laptop for a while. I would personally recommend the 8850h+1070 if this were the choice. I noticed that the 1080 runs quite hot unless you undervolt it even with a gelid gc extreme repaste (it really delivers full desktop performance, even better than reference 1080), so a 1070 will do a lot better job at not making the fans go crazy. The cooling is superb if you do not mind some noise, I do, so I keep my fan profile low with max 3400rpm on each fan (about 56% or sth). I have 8750H and the 8850H without OC should be very similar to it, max temps with adjusted voltage settings in bios and I get only up to 80 degrees (100% cpu stress test) on factory paste with a reasonably low fan profile. If we were to also repaste it the temps would drop at least 5C or more judging what repaste did with the gpu temps. When gaming I get anywhere from 60-70 C on cpu depending on how stressful the game is on the cpu (with cpu fan usually being barely audible). GPU fan tends to make all the noise when gaming haha. There will be no overheating even on stock paste ^^
As for performance, mine has literally the same performance as a desktop would and there is no throttling. I suspect the 1070 version will be power limited though. Maybe you should look into ordering one from hidevolution, they can spec a nice 8850H+1080 for you and even with extended warranty to 2 years and repaste etc it should cost just about 3000 euro (keep in mind their prices are in dollars) - or more if you want them to preinstall some fancy ssd's and ram for you. Plus I find that someone inspecting the laptop before you get it and repasting it is a must with these. The chinese don't treat them with care in the factory lets say.

 

The MSI GT75 Titan with the 8950HK is the only laptop that can keep that chip somewhat decently cooled (read:below 98C), but it will require a LOT of work to do that (liquid metal thermal paste on CPU will be required, GPU will need to be re-padded with Arctic or fujipoly 1mm thermal pads, because GPU VRM cooling was reduced, and you will need to do the IA AC DC loadline=1 tweak (instructions are in the MSI unlock thread) to get the voltage under control and prevent the excessive overvolting. (this will also allow you to use static voltages without putting 1.25v into the processor and getting 1.4v at full load).

But if you can afford a GT75, you're better off just getting a Clevo P775 TM1 with a 8700K processor for much cheaper, which will run faster, cooler and without all the BS (but you must buy it from a Prema partner shop like HIDevolution or Xotic PC, so you get the Prema bios (required).

The 8850H processor isn't bad but keep in mind that's a "failed bin" 8950HK (meaning:lower quality silicon), just like the 8950HK is a failed bin 8700 (either 8700 non K, or 8600K).

 

I still don't see the point in an i9, it does not seem to offer much more than the 8850H given the thermal limits unless you go liquid metal and even then lets admit it: who needs to run their cpu daily at more than 4.4GHz? Even if it's the same chip but just lower quality, it will perform up to spec, just the overclocking headroom is limited. Please correct me if I am wrong. But yeah a clevo seems like a good idea unless you are set on getting an msi.

 

Unfortunately it must be from EU because of the taxes. If I buy it from US it cost me too much to import it. I was looking that one with 1070 too, it just a loose to have 16gb ram, now I have 32gb so I would need to open it and replace ram sticks

 

If the EU models are all the same then the 8850H+1070 will come with 2x8GB sticks on the back side of the MB. This means 2 slots just under the bottom panel are free and you can put another 2x8GB in it and be done with 32 GB, no need to disassemble or replace the existing ones.

 

i9=no power limits. unlimited overclocking.
So it's good for people who want to push to the extreme. Provided you can keep it cool and your cpu sample isn't horrible.
Hard to tell right now because almost all of them are overheating.
haha.
theoretically, you should be able to disable cores which may get you closer to 5 ghz if you can turn it into a better binned 4c/8t processor. But i didn't check to see if the MSI Bios allows disabling cores. I only saw that you can disable hyperthreading.

 

That I saw on one video I just need to be careful which one to put in I read it.
This will be a bigger improvement upon my Asus. Gpu is at least 30% better than gtx980.
Maybe I get any good discount in 2 months to get it by lower price and also I will buy it on company so no vat

 

I see that's why you need to buy in EU. Just let me warn you: it will work out of the box but it might be overheating and running very loud. You will need to repaste it. You will probably need to undervolt it. There might be loose screws on the heatsinks which makes the repaste extremely needed. The fans might make noise. MSI support will probably not help you aside from "you need to send it in for repair to Poland". If you send it to Poland they will ruin it or not just not fix it the first time and you will have to send it again. Your hinges might break because they are too tight within a few months. OR you will be very lucky and get a good sample which seems to require more luck than not if it's just straight from the factory. Or I am a very unlucky person... have not had the hinges break tho, it's something.

 

Damn they are so bad as support? How can be loosing screw on new one?
This is just offul things for this company, you pay so much for laptop and you get question mark (newer know what you get)
I will buy it in Germany if this means anything.
My ex asus worked from box like a charm I was looking now also some asus but they are more expensive and they don't have so good cooling.

 

Well I am in the Netherlands (neighbours yay) so I figured it might be similar. The screw was there on the heatsink, just not tight in place. This resulted in the paste being spread unevenly and partially drying out within a very short time. The phone support here is good as long as you have them on the phone, they do seem to take ages to get back to you. I heard lots of bad things of asus support too just to be fair and the fact your laptop was overheating and died says enough. Every company has their own stuff, I am not saying one is worse than the other. And for the record I am extremely unlucky when it comes to electronics, my lg phone was faulty from the box, my samsung s7 has a little ghost on the screen, the headset I bought has the worst mic ever, when I bought 700 euro PC upgrade package for the bf the cpu came opened with a fat finger print on it... etc. It's probably just me

 

I dont have so much bad luck as you but, If I spend 2600€ it need to be ok. But do I lose warrenty if I open it to screw tight on the place? I know somethings by PC i am repasting them, cleaning... so this wouldnt be a hard job for me

 

No, breaking the seal does not void warranty. Damaging stuff in the process does, for example my bottom cover clip that broke off is no longer covered. I blame the bf!

 

Hehehe
Then I open it right first seconds ... strange that you dont void warranty, even if you remove their sticker that cover one screw

I like at MSI that whole back is like honey open, so you can put it on cooler pad and maybe you get few less celsius

 

i wouldn't do this... when you remove the bottom panel you have no distance feets and the taptop is in direct contact.
why is this strange thank you to the laws for customer rights in germany and other eu countries.
if you need help to find a shop in germany i would offer you my help to find one if you want it so far i have good experience with otto.de, notebook.de and notebooksbilliger.de.
customer service is not needed because you can do your rma directly to MSI.
notebook.de offers upgrades for storage, memory and some other things but not so much like HiDevolution for example repasting job.
otto.de and notebooksbilliger.de just sale the books like they are there you need to upgrade things by your own same for repasting.

and my experince with poland are excellent what you had @heliada is more then annoying and shouldn't happend but this can happen with every company who sell notebooks.
i had bad ecperience with acer, toshiba, hp, dell but this is no reason to say never again.

just an note for the future.. when i disamble my books i use my smartphone to do an video of it like the customer service point in poland so i have some proof that i work correctly.

 

Dont choose p775 with a 8700K... will be on fire in few seconds...if you really want a good cooling solution in a clevo with 8700k go for the p870 model.

With MSI GT75 you not will find better cooling solution on the market...my suggestion is 8850H with GTX1080, like @heliada said, you have 2 other models 7RG(8850H-GTX1070) and 8RG(8750H-GTX1080)...im also with doublts about these...

 

At this point, I would only go with an 8th gen CPU taptop. The increase in performance is very noticeable.

 

Im really with doublts going with 7RG or 8RG... one comes with 330 AC power and the other with 230w...will be the model with GTX1070 power limit? Dam where i saw a case with that GPU and power limit? I think that was in a GT72VR-7RE

 

is the 8950HK the only 8th gen laptop cpu?

is there maybe something with a higher base Frequency (closer to a 8700k)

 

Here you go. There is nothing higher than the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK

Intel® Core™ i7-8750H - https://ark.intel.com/products/134906/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-Processor-9M-Cache-up-to-4_10-GHz

Intel® Core™ i7-8850H - https://ark.intel.com/products/134899/Intel-Core-i7-8850H-Processor-9M-Cache-up-to-4_30-GHz

Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK - https://ark.intel.com/products/134903/Intel-Core-i9-8950HK-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4_80-GHz

 

What about easynotebooks.de?

 

Hey Donald, gt75 still in my cart while i try to sell my Alienware.

is EVOC the only laptop brand with the 8700k?

 

I have no experience so far with this shop but the reviews looking good but they sell it like otto.de and notebooksbilliger.de no upgrade options.

 

Yes. EVOC High Performance Systems that use the Intel® Core™ i7-8700K are built on the Clevo shells. There are several other 'brands' that are also built on the same Clevo shells...just not built as well

 

What's the difference between 7RF and 8RF, because for same price you can get at 7RF GTX1080/7gen proc on 8RF you get GTX1070/8gen proc.

 

7RF-7gen....8RF-8gen