The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

I received my GT73VR with a 1070 as well yesterday. Bought mine even though the company I bought it from said there wouldn't be any G-sync on this model, but lo and behold Nvidia Control Panel says my 120hz screen is G-sync compatible.

Have noticed some very infrequent frame drops in games though, but I guess that's because the graphics card is throttling every 10 degrees which I've seen mentioned on NBR before.

Firestrike with the default turbo mode and the insane cooler boost result: 14600. Without cooler boost: 13600-800. Quite like the cooler boost feature, GPU max temp during Firestrike was 50 degrees lol. Feel as if I read that wrong.

Some initial impressions of the machine:

PROS:
Screen
Simply amazing. Evenly lit,responsive, bright and 120hz is a godsend. Rocket League is a whole new game thanks to this screen, love it.

Performance
Getting great performance in basically every game. Rock solid 120 fps in Doom was impressive. Witcher 3 runs great as well. The only game I was disappointed with here was XCOM 2, but that game is infamous for it's terrible optimization.

Cooling
Impressed with the low temperatures which will get even better once I repaste.

Track Pad
Very nice compared to my old AW.

CONS:
Build quality.
It's not terrible all in all, but coming from a Alienware 17 (2013 model) I was disappointed with the build quality. Seems to me that the trims aren't very well done and compared to the AW (which was great in this regard), it feels more plasticky.

If I tap the corners of the laptop I get this sort of annoying vibrating sound which feels like something that shouldn't happen with a premium product and might or might not be fixable. Maybe I had bad luck here and got a bit of a lemon in this regard.

Keyboard layout. The small return button especially. Will take some getting used to. Also would have liked some customizable buttons for volume etc.

Warranty sticker
********, I really hope it isn't actually valid. Will need to look into it.

All in all very impressed and happy though.

I have this weird problem where Windows 10 activity monitor is showing CPU usage at 100% almost all the time, unless I use ECO-mode where it's still around 50%. Fans are not acting up and If I check CPU usage in Dragon Center everything looks normal though and CPU usage is low. Doesn't at all seem like the CPU is going wild in any way. Has anyone else encountered this issue?

EDIT: Wow, sorry about the long post.

 

Good day, I received yesterday a new GT73 VR 6RE with SLI 1070 and 4k screen. I was just wondering if those red stripes, either side of the company logo, on the back of the lid are meant to light up red ?

Any information would be helpful.

 

Mine kind of do, but the light is very weak. Basically can't see anything daytime.

 

Nice, we had the same experience so far. I have some windows 10 related issues aswel, but it's something else.

Example, I think it's something like easy mice feature, where the windows(explorer, or any programs) suddenly resize after a preset window feature. Increadible anoying. And some windows features I had to turn off like 2-3 times before it stuck after a hard reboot.

 

Oh man, how did you get rid of that resize thing? You mean the one when a square pops up on screen and it maximizes or moves windows right? I haven't found a way to get rid of it yet and I hate it.

 

It's in settings under msi true color.

 

Thanks a lot! It's finally gone now

 

No problem.

 

Mine is due in tomorrow. Would a clean install and getting rid of all the MSI stuff solve little issues? I could then install just what I needed/wanted from MSI.

 

Holy cow, thank you!!!!

 

You're welcome

 

Yep, they do light up red) Nice rig, btw! Did you test it with unigine valley, how are the temps and noise under load? Does it have 4k g-sync panel?

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

 

Ok, last windows issue.

When I turn off the computer, via the Turn off function in windows.
The laptop never fully shutsdown, but seems to me the screen turns off, but the lightning etc is ON.
I can`t wake it up eather, like pressing esc, enter, powerbutton etc.

So after I turn it off true windows, I have to press and hold the physical shutdown button on the keyboard.
The laptop turns off, and I can start it again as if everything is just fine.

Any clues what to do?

 

I've had something similar happen to me however in my case it just takes a while to turn off. Give it a minute or two and see if it eventually turns off on its own. If it doesn't then your issue might be something else entirely.

 

I was reading something like this yesterday. See if this helps. Go to control panel > power options > choose what the power buttons do. Click on 'change settings that are currently unavailable'. Scroll down and uncheck the box that says 'Turn on fast startup'. There is also the same setting under 'Closing the lid'. I don't know if changing one cahnges both or even if it will help.

 

You were spot on! I`m just impatience. I guess it's a feature for propper cool down the cpu and gpu before shutting 100% down.

Edit:
Wow, now I'm close to resolve everything here windows related. Wooho!

 

Glad it worked out

 

There is no CPU bottle-necking, other than they haven't/didn't OC the CPU and GPU yet

It's probably due to user configuration of Gaming Center, Power Profile, cooling settings.

It's close enough to the 17% average from the Hardware Unboxing 1080/1070 - 20% is exceeded a number of times from games tested - check out the chart and the review article for performance details.

We've only seen 1 test from 2 different users / samples, not enough to go on yet.

Also the Fire Strike test has different components, Total score, Graphics Score, Physics Score (CPU), read the details and do the percentage calculation yourself to see the specific GPU / CPU differences.

 

The one thing to do to turn all that off, and recover some C drive space back from Hibernation - the root service causing this - is to disable Hibernation.

Open a cmd Window, Start As Administrator, and run thi:

powercfg /h off

Then reboot, and you will gain back space on C drive used by Hiberfil.sys (equal to size of RAM, up to 64GB), and Fast Start Up and Soft Shutdown will be ended - you will have real shutdown and startup.

 

looks great

 

I received mine today and so far I'm happy with it. It's a tad bigger then my GT70, It's even a bit wide for my backpack, aTargus Drifter2, which I'm currently using. After my inspection I hope to install the new SSD and do a clean install of windows. Here are a few benchmarks.

I have never run a benchmark on a SSD, I'm not sure what the data means but this is the stock SSD.


Here are some 3d marks, I didn't upload the first one so I'll just type it

Stock everything. 3d Firestrike, 12985 CPU max 83 GPU max 72

Stock speed, Coolboost on.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10163201 CPU max 78 GPU 54

With Turbo on Coolboost off.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10163286 CPU max 78 GPU 71

With Turbo and Coolboost on.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10163380 CPU max 64 GPU 54

Feel free to ask any questions.

 

Hello!
Has anyone encountered a problem with windows store and netflix?
I have the 1080 one, received it 2 weeks ago. For the netflix app, it lags very hard like choppy or low fps when playing it on fullscreen. However, when I switch to windowed mode, it will play just fine, even if I adjust the screen like a fullscreen, but it's really lagging when it's fullscreen. It's not buffering or any internet related issues as I'm having 20-25Mbps speed.
Yesterday I tried using the calculator, but it closes immediately. I can't open it this time while I could just 2 weeks ago. I went to windows store and checked out the updates, it won't let me update them all. If I update the windows store through its own app, the app itself will close immediately and won't let me open, just like my problem with the calculator. Now, I can't update them all. However, I searched online about this problem and I somehow got the fix for the store closing immediately when opened. I will open up my cmd and type in this code.
PowerShell -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -Command "& {$manifest = (Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.WindowsStore).InstallLocation + '\AppxManifest.xml' ; Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register $manifest}"
However, it always ends up the same thing, it won't let me update everything on the store, even the app itself. It will close immediately again and I will have to enter that code again for me to open windows store. I also did installed everything on the windows update.

Other than that, this laptop is a beast. This is my first gaming laptop and very I'm happy about it. If there's any tests that you guys want me to do, feel free. Just tell me about how to do it though because I never did some benchmarkings before. lol

 

I have a GT73 with a 1070 and keep getting NVIDIA driver crashes in Elder Scrolls Online, it's not even playable. I just did a clean windows install and will see if that helps, although getting the correct raid drivers to work for the dual nvme's so I could used them as a raid0 boot drive after killing the recovery partition was a pain in the butt.

I tried all the nvidia driver version I could find and used DDU to ensure a clean install, but it still keeps crashing in ESO, only seems to be that one game though; overwatch, CSGO, No Man Sky and Total War Warhammer run perfect and 120hz is so nice.

 

I received mine today and I'm very happy with it. The model I have is GT73VR-017. This is my first gaming laptop.

3Dmark firestrike score. Everything in stock. Fans auto Score: 12941 Max CPU temp: 78 Max GPU temp: 75
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14849026

3Dmark firestrike score. Everything in stock. Cooler boost ON Score: 13142 Max CPU temp: 63 Max GPU temp: 54
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14849184

3Dmark firestrike score. Turbo mode ON. Fans auto Score: 14343 Max CPU temp: 78 Max GPU temp: 76
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14849276

3Dmark firestrike score. Turbo mode ON. Cooler Boost ON Score: 14606 Max CPU temp: 66 Max GPU temp: 54
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14849373

 

Very close to my scores, at least they are consistent.

 

My mic sounds like I'm talking into a tin can, has anyone else used theirs?

 

Thanks for the test run links, it's really more helpful than just numbers or images, we can set up comparisons, like this one:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10163201/fs/10163286/fs/5708173

A single 1070 is brushing up against my 980m SLI, I think a single 1080 might just match it

Your 2 last links are the same test run, you slipped a Copy and Pasted the 2nd run 2x.

When you tune, OC the CPU to 4.0ghz on all 4 cores and bump up the GPU a bit, it's going to be even closer

 

Sounds like a Windows 10 bug, and if you are trying to watch Netflix with a Windows 10 "app" that runs under Metro that's the problem - use a Browser like Chrome or Firefox instead

Most of the Windows 10 apps I used, including Hulu and Netflix had playback issues, but that was way back in the pre-release days. The main problem I have with Windows 10 apps was the side by side or over and under split screen vs normal free floating Windows like on the Windows desktop. I would hope that has been solved by now...

If you have a Windows 8.1/7 license install an M.2 drive dedicated to a 2nd OS and try running from that as a double check for new problems - it will continue to be useful when new anomalistic behavior occurs from Windows 10 updates.

 

Did you try tuning it with Nahimic? I have never used it, but I noticed there was a section for microphone

 

@Georgel if MSI is not in Romania, how about in neighboring countries?

Bulgaria:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#27,3,

Hungary:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#23,3,

Moldova:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#26,3,

Serbia:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#30,3,

Ukraine:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#5,3,Киев

Or, even Turkey:
https://eu.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/#7,3,

My apologies if I offended by offering one or more of these, I don't know how well everyone gets along in those areas

 

Don't worry about it! We're all friends in here! Romania gets along very well with all countries around ^_^.

The problem is that they don't ship laptops, and I have no idea why.

They ship motherboards, components, many things, just not laptops.

No one ships laptops, to be more precies MSI laptops... It's almost as if MSI decided to ban Romania from their delivery list or we're not yet allowed to receive those machines. which is strange since there is no MSI laptop on market in Romania right now...

 

Forget the laptops, that's what really matters

How about Asus?

 

Nothing with Pascal in Eastern Europe ;_;

What is more strange, all the shops that are listed there don't have Pascal laptops inside, but have other things and ship to Romania.

After living in here, it all feels like one big family of friends! At least this is my experience so far! (I don't travel much either, but still, people are friendly)

 

I'm glad to post them and It's good to hear feedback as I don't have a good feel for the numbers.

For some reason the screenshot I did of my SDD benchmark is not posting, can you guys see the thumbnail?

I lost Nahimic with the fresh install and reinstalled it just before I went to bed, I'll be sure to give it try. I also noticed the downloads were unusually slow and I'm wondering if the drivers that installed with Windows could be causing it.

 

Anyone repasted the cpu and gpu?
Any differences in temps?

Is it hard to disasemble it, I saw Gentech's review, but they showed us before and after.

 

I was able to get Nahimic installed along with some other drivers I forgot. I read someone around here say that windows 10 drivers were good enough so I failed to load certain ones from MSI. Nahimic and SCM being ones that were causing me some problems.

I ran an ATTO benchmark on both the Stock SSD and the new Intel 600P. I'm not sure if I installed this correctly because it seems to me the stock drive is faster. So I could use some help interpreting the results.

Spoiler: Benchmark Image

The left is the Stock Toshiba THNSN5128GPU7, The right image is the new intel 600p 256.

Do theses numbers look right?

 

My temps looked good enough for now so I'm holding off on the repaste. I also haven't OCed anything yet so I would be interested to know if anybody has and what the result were.

 

It looks to me that with the Intel the transfer rates are higher than with the stock. I would keep the Intel.

 

They look right to me. These are the numbers of my stock SSD. Do you know guys which is best way to connect the laptop to a 4K TV @60hz? The HDMI is 1.4 and it only supports 4K@30hz and the Thunderbolt 3 accessories are expensive.

 

NBR is having problems displaying images, sometimes they are visible if you refresh a few times, sometimes not.

Putting up a full image rather than a thumbnail seems to work better right now.

They are working on fixing this, but it's been a couple of months already since it started happening.

You could try an external image host service and use the image url insertion tool under Edit - More Options...

 

For normal use, even OC'd within the stock BIOS/vbios there is little benefit.

It's more trouble than it's worth, and won't affect gaming performance, it's just for bragging rights and starts you on a regular schedule of repasting.

If you are thermal throttling, and it looks like a bad paste job, then return it for another one during the return period, or if it happens later on in the life of the laptop, use the 2 year warranty to have MSI redo the paste.

Both events are very rare, in 7+ Asus/MSI laptops I haven't had a single one that *needed* repasting, they all performed up to their limits without thermal throttling while gaming.

For all the people I have helped that feared they needed a re-pasting job only a few actually did. The others were spooked by talk of re-pasting and talked themselves into believing their quite normal temperatures required repasting, they didn't need to.

If you talk to a dedicated benchmarker, who unleashed TDP from 45w to 80w, they'll swear it's essential

 

This is why I always recommend using the vendor supplied image especially for MSI / Asus, probably for other such builders.

Uninstall the apps you don't want, I have listed the ones I uninstall many times, but don't blow away the whole image as there are lots of little things you will miss installing or tweaking that they have done for their image.

They have put a lot of time into matching and tuning their build images so you would have to put a lot of work in to doing the same just to get back to the same level they provided out of the box.

Since I OC I uninstall the vendor tools that do that like MSI Gaming Center, and I also remove their Color tuning app that affects the display, and I install an ICC profile pulled from their install.

Uninstalling their apps is enough, you don't need to do a from scratch install from Microsoft media.

The boutique builders usually install from MS media and sometimes add enough drivers and apps, but even though they might be selling MSI / Asus laptops, they don't include the original vendor image. So in this case, you are on your own.

Yeah, that 600p speed result looks right, it's slower Read and Write - it's a budget drive.

From newegg 512GB product data:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAZU4NC1136&cm_re=600p-_-20-167-412-_-Product

• Max Sequential Read: Up to 1775 MBps
• Max Sequential Write: Up to 560 MBps
• 4KB Random Read: Up to 128,500 IOPS
• 4KB Random Write: Up to 128,000 IOPS

If you don't have it installed already try installing Intel RST driver and app, it's needed for NVME support:

Intel® Rapid Storage Technology Enterprise NVMe (Intel® RSTe NVMe) RAID Driver
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...y-Enterprise-NVMe-Intel-RSTe-NVMe-RAID-Driver

You might try restoring the MSI image, and uninstall apps you don't want from there

 

Mine is supposed to be here today (c'mon UPS!). Assuming the displays will be the same, is it okay to use notebookcheck's ICC file from their review after they calibrated the display?

 

Thanks, I will try to get that driver installed, I'm wondering if that slowed down my installations last night. When it was stock the downloading/installation seemed to go by quicker. It could also be the internet use in my house last night, I'm not sure. I guess I'll just try to fix all the issues before starting over, next time I'll use the recovery option MSI has. At least it' allowing me to get to know the software a bit more.

 

If the screen make/model is the same, yes

It's worth a try.

See if you can borrow a display calibration tool and do it for your own screen, there are variances that make it a good idea to do it for each screen.

 

You didn't back up the original image before blowing it away?

Things may have changed, but I am pretty sure MSI won't send you a copy, you need to RMA (the whole laptop) to get MSI to restore their image / recovery partition onto your drive.

That's why MSI put's in that nag-ware to remind you to create the restore image boot flash drive.

Use a 32GB USB 3.0 - get a fast one, as the speed of the flash drive limits create / restore times.

If the seller has a retail location, and has one of your models on display, you can ask nicely and create a restore flash drive from their machine, takes about 8-12 minutes.

 

I'm not sure if it's all laptops or if it's something my reseller did for me but when I go into Windows recovery there is already an msi backup there that I can restore from. I haven't done any backup with msi's tools.

 

Has anyone confirmed the hdmi port is indeed 1.4a? Looks like the GT62VR has a 2.0 based on a recent post from an owner.

 

Everywhere online lists as 2.0. I'd be happy to test it out. How should I go abouts doing that?

 

The only problem with relying on the recovery partition on a drive only is what if that drive gets formatted, fails, or is over installed, or is missing from the system like when you replace it with a larger drive.

That's why you need the separate bootable flash drive so you can boot on it and restore to a new drive, or the one that got blown away.

Who was your reseller? Did they offer an option to provide you with a bootable restore flash drive? It's only like $10-$25, it's worth getting.

The MSI tools will let you build your own, but I haven't seen a boutique seller include such a tool on their builds.

They might be using the Windows 10 Recovery disk tool, which you can also use. If you have an Asus/MSI specific tool it's best to use that.
http://www.backup-utility.com/windows-10/create-windows-10-recovery-disk-4348.html