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It doesnt seem to to end here and maybe i need that last piece of advice to get it right. After running the XUT and keeping it in the tray my CPU clock speed did show in DC just fine. I must assume, just like Duke CLR, that the DC is using the XUT to work its magic. Either way, after restart and starting DC first the Clock values were gone again. Immediately after starting the XTU benchmark again I had my clock values back.

So, simple question: Is that the desired state or does GC suppose to show my CPU-clocks even w/o the help of XTU?

 

All I ever had to do was install XTU to get my vaules in DC. I didn't even need to run XTU.

 

It was off, I think I may have screwed it up when I started DGC after the first reboot during the driver install, before the new driver installed. I realized that I had done this when the GPU button disappeared from the Turbo mode. I went ahead and reinstalled DGC which at first didn't solve the problem, I had to select another mode first, after re selecting Turbo the OC engaged, I hopped in a BF1 outdoor map to give it a proper test and all is well. .

 

All normally do is boot my machine, load DGC Apply Turbo settings and my clocks change and stay. I don't launch XTU nor is it in my startup menu.

 

Dragon Center interacts directly with BIOS and it can cause issues when running both DGC and XTU. I would recommend using one or the other, and not both. After testing myself, I directly set my values to BIOS and no longer use XTU or DGC, and my speeds are stable.

I also noticed a bit of stuttering when booting up, and turns out it was when the system was loading DGC.

You can install separately MSI's Silent Option for fan control, which is the only thing I did use in dragon center. Now I have full speed all the time and stable, no stutter.

Also, anyone running 4Ghz or more, with default current settings, you are definitely running into current limits, which is why some heavy benchmarks can drop your clockspeed slightly. Even intel XTU can trigger this.

 

I couldn't get my BIOS to hold my settings, maybe DGC was messing with it.

Would my Killawatt meter measure current?

 

Nope, killawatt does measure full system power, but the current limit I am talking about is only on the CPU icc settings. Over killawatt you will probably only see a 5-10w difference at best, and only in specific scenarios.

DGC definitely affects BIOS settings at boot, because it directly writes values there. If you want to mess with BIOS settings, you would need to uninstall DGC. I would only recommend doing BIOS settings if you are sure your settings are stable, otherwise you will need to do a CMOS reset. Try using intel XTU on its own with DGC disable, to test.

The current setting will need to be changed on BIOS though. On stock, it is on value 0 which is AUTO. You can put numbers there, and each integer is 1/4 I believe, of the current. So putting 400 would mean 100A current max.

If I remember correctly, the AUTO limit is about 74A. I personally use 200A current limit, but that's just me and I don't recommend people to blindly increase any setting, unless it is at your own risk but yeah, at 75A you are definitely current limited even at 4Ghz.

 

Mmh, weird piece left to figure out is why DGC wouldn't show my clock speed unless I have XTU running. Either way, now with XTU and DGC combined I get my 4 Ghz on all 4 cores and only go to 68C on the CPU with slightly adjusted fan curve, still far along from jet engine. Now I finally have my 120Hz in BF1 locked with Nvidia Gforce Exp optimized settings. The CPU and the lack of OC-ing were the bottle neck.

Thanks to all

 

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Hi guys,

I've got my '73, and it runs beautifully apart from a bit of a wrinkle. I'm asking here before I open a ticket with Xotic, but I'm getting some strange sound issues - I think they could be related to the subwoofer? Either way, when there's even a little base, I'm getting some kind of feedback or reverberation that makes the sound very wooly. Is this a known issue? And if so, can I fix it or will I have to RMA?

 

Wow that sucks...not a good Christmas present at all.

Hope the crooks get caught fast.

 

I've never had a problem like that. I would uninstall Nahimic first and see if perhaps it may be related to that. You may also try updating audio drivers and Nahimic. The latest version on MSI is from 12/22.

 

Hello guys i have the msi gt73vr 6re with 1080p 120Hz G-sync panel and i'm a bit worried about g-sync.

When i play League of Legends with g-sync activated the game runs at 30fps, when i deactivate g-sync it runs at 120fps, i have the latest drivers said by gforce experience (376.33).

Do you know why it is??

Thank You

 

Hey fellow summoner; the easiest answer is that League and G-Sync on laptops don't work well together. I get tons of stuttering at 120fps and everything looks all jerky when I have G-Sync on. I turned it off, and set the fps counter in the game to 120; no issues since. Bit of a drag, I know. Just software compatibility.

This really seems to be limited to laptops, however. G-Sync on my desktop works flawlessly with League.

Edit: You can leave G-Sync on and change the settings for League specifically to not use G-Sync via the nvidia control panel. See here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.co...driver-37595-on-new-laptop-fix-g-sync-display

 

How many fps max and mini (in big fight) do you get on league of legends with gtx1070 and all high parameters graphic ? you nerver get less 120fps in big fight?
And with gtx1080?
THX

 

I never see less or more than 120 in any of my matches with all the options turned up; I have the frame cap set at 120 as well. I've got the GTX 1080, but for the GTX 1070 you should not have any issues hitting and surpassing 120 fps for League.

 

A review of the new GT73VR with the i7-7820HK processor

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT73VR-7RF-Titan-Pro-Notebook-Review.189710.0.html

The new Core i7-7820HK is 3% faster than the Core i7-6820HK at best

 

Something must be wrong with their unit and such high temps. Even when I did 4.4ghz at insante voltage, my max CPU temp was around 83-85 celsius, and they are getting 90 at 4ghz? I hardly reach 70s in such range.

Also, my single cinebench score is almost identical (171 mine vs 172 with new CPU) which can be attributed to % variance and not really performance difference. My multicore bench was also basically identical, although this time higher (866 vs 864 new cpu) so we can easily conclude the new 7820HK is the exact same performance and hardly an improvement for these laptops that can easily get on the 4ghz range

 

if you look at the max temperature, 5 to 6 degree difference in each core temp...one of the cause of high temperatures, may be they got a bad unit to test.....

 

Did anyone saw the gtx 1080 stocks clocks are higher? plus it has a newer vbios...would love to get my hands on that vbios.

chipset 238 with A154. in dragon center the cpu fan profile for the cpu has 6 points of variation with a more aggressive fan profile. hope we can use their DC software

 

While their stock clocks might be higher, it actually scored less than your average stock GTX1080 for GT73 users, barely reaching 21k. My stock is on 22k and overclocked on 24k.

The chipset is the real improvement, the rest is hardly different from our current GT73

 

I have now read the whole thread it took a while lol and a lot of happy people with there machines ..i really do miss mine and hate turning my main Rig on just to browse the net . the wifes laptop is just so slow lol .

Could only really see a handful of people with the same problems as me , but there is more out there . Getting worried the retailer will say they are sending it to MSI to be fixed and there is no way im accepting that as they now have no stock and dont think they are re-stocking it .

 

Can you get a refund then buy from another vendor.

 

It all depends on retailer if they do the correct testing and find the faults , reviews from here in UK point out that they tend to fob the customer off and say there is nothing wrong with it and may just run bencmarks.But there is another person on the MSI forums who has bought the same laptop from same batch as me from same retailer and hes also got his RMA so they would need to fob us both off ,my missis joked this morning saying they will give me his and they will give him mine grrr . bloody hope not !!!!

there is not a lot of stock left in uk and where it is in stock it is more expensive ..



but i could just be paranoid and its on buy now pay later 6 months . i could buy it cash though as that was the first plan but went for finance just to take out the sting being xmas month.

at first i was blown away by it and very impressed with the performance . Now i think i will just get the 1080 version as then i can just plug it into the ultrawide screen or even the 32in 4k screen (both Gsync)

Was expecting email today saying they got it back but nothing yet .

 

Good luck with all that.

 

now begining to think its the UK machines that are the ones that are bad .

UK Number is

MSI GT73VR 6RE-034UK

and i can only see the same faults as mine on the 034UK machines

 

using their DGC won't give us 6 CPU fan curves, Fan curves are saved in EC firmware and if there are 5 for GT73VR 6RF, means there are 5, DGC only shows what will be the setting in EC firmware...

If you want more curves, you can create your own EC firmware or ask svet, with more or custom fan curves and can set the fan speed breaking point according to temperature %

here is the svet custom bios / firmware thread for compete detail....

btw how's the temperature after applying minus 8 pad on drive, mine arrived yesterday along with kryonaut and with phobya, will be changing this week, phobya on CPU / grizzly on GPU

 

Hm, is that a keyboard protector I see? Where can I get one for the GT73?

 

Yes, bought this one from ebay @ $17



Here are many other options

Whatever fits on GT72 will fit on GT73

 

I want to add another SSD M2. I bought a Samsung 960 EVO 1TB ( http://www.anandtech.com/show/10833/the-samsung-960-evo-1tb-review)
Notebook will not turn on. When you turn on the LED flash only and nothing else.Where is the problem?
https://goo.gl/photos/ZEV54SLozv2gYGZi8

 

is this drive for sure m.2 sata or you may be insert it up side down, 3rd slot is only for m.2 sata drive, NVMe PCIe drive not supported.

 

It could be but I had a friend who had a bad GT62VR who returned it and got a second one, the second one was 425 production numbers after the first, I think MSI may adjust things as they go, I suspect early models have a higher defect rate but it's only speculation.

The production date on mine in August 2016 and mine isn't a lemon.

 

What specific M.2 SATA is the recommendation??? According connectors (photo) where this fits my drive. Thank
http://image.neonus.sk/image/me/0462a8f97bf61e1b7869903f4c261979.jpeg

 

this one is m.2 sata

http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...-state-drives/ssd-850-evo-m2-1tb-mz-n5e1t0bw/

and this one is nvme m.2

http://www.samsung.com/us/computing...state-drives/ssd-960-evo-m-2-1tb-mz-v6e1t0bw/

both are different drives, you can use only first drive m.2 in 3rd slot.

The drive you have can be used in first or 2nd slot only.

SideNote: When inserting drive into slot, the label side (contain brand name) comes on top.

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Thank. I will try it.

 

425 is a sub-model number which increases as spec changes.

 

Interesting, so a whole lot of these would have the same production number? That makes sense as his second one was produced in October.

 

Each region uses a different number but they all increase similarly, and eventually MSI will move onto the next product and this number sequence starts all over again.

 

Small update, I was having some serious connectivity issues with the Killer card and driver; I replaced it with the intel 8260 and haven't had any issues since. Love this machine. So fast, much fps, very game, wow.

Thanks again GenTechPC! You guys cured me of a slim 'n light design desire.

 

Slim design looks good, but its a performance, thermal and price compromise ahhahaha, and personally a headache

What router do you have? I have nothing short of exceptional wireless performance with my killer card, using an Asus RT AC87U. My previous, media d-link router did have issues though.

 

Just purchased an MSI GT73VR-6RE. Spent the last 2 months researching amd the G73 seems to be the only laptop with a 1070 that isn't having high temp issues. Purchased from new egg, should be here tomorrow!

Any tips for 1st time startup with this beast? I heard the bloatware was minimal so a fresh install of win 10 isn't needed? Should I stress test the cpu/gpu and see if the temps are all normal?
Upgrading from an ASUS G75VW 660m i7 3610, was tired of running games on low setting haha

 

you should have wait little more and could buy the GT73VR 7RE with intel 7th Gen processor.....

 

if he have a good price why w8? the difference is not huge like nvidia serie10xx....

 

Yea the difference between the 2 is very minimal. The new series will be priced higher as well. Maybe if I was getting a 6700hq I would wait for the 7700hq because you can't really overclock the 6700hq but the 6820k can be OC'd so I'm happy with my purchase.

 

Do you guy's know if the performance hit is big or small in terms of FPS when I have a second monitor running as a Mirror to laptop screen?

I am trying to run a game called DCS world through the HTC Vive. The problem I have is unless I have my primary screen set to mirror laptop screen I can't control the brightnes in the Vive headset...it is way to dark.

It is a little complicated but here is what I have to do to make the screen (in Vive headset) bright enough to see.

Scenario 1: The laptop is hooked to a 28" 4k monitor and also the Vive. If I have just the 28" screen active then the Vive brightness is ...well not very bright.
Scenario 2: The laptop is hooked to a 28" 4k monitor and also the vive. Now the 28" screen is set to Mirror the laptop screen. In this case the Vive is bright enough to see well.

The question is how much of a hit on FPS am I getting if the laptop has to power 3 screens at once?

Thanks

 

I've got an Asus RT-AC3100. I'm not exactly sure what the issue was, but no problems at all now.

 

Not sure the exact amount of performance hit but I did read that anything over 2k resolution plus the vive does incur a performance hit.

How much I dont know. Since VR games are designed usually to run at constant fps, if you are not experiencing stutter or bad performance, I wouldnt worry about it. You can also try playing it without your external monitor.

Hows the game btw?

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No idea either. My previous GT80 and GT60 both had killer wifi and both had very different issues. I was surprised this one didnt give me trouble!

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Have a 32gb usb drive to do the MSI restore first thing. I downloaded the Norton Removal tool to uninstall Norton's. I uninstalled TrueColor and use an ICC profile posted several times in this thread. After all the windows updates (the Anniversary update takes a looong time), and after I setup a raid drive, I did another restore USB using windows instead of MSI. Now I can restore without all the updates and still have the MSI apps. There are new audio drivers and Nahimic on MSI from 12/22.